DRC/MGB: UNT hopes summer work on passing game pays

Brett Vito · August 19, 2015

DRC: UNT's wide receivers, quarterbacks spent more time throwing on their own than ever this summer

http://www.dentonrc.com/sports/sports-headlines/20150818-football-unts-player-run-summer-drills-paying-off.ece

MGB: Thoughts on some telling comments by McCarney, Canales on where the QB race stands

http://meangreenblog.dentonrc.com/2015/08/thoughts-on-where-unt-stands-at-qb.html/

Army of Dad · August 19, 2015

Beating the Mini Mac drum is fine so long as he shows dramatic improvement on the game field. If he fails to do that then the season is certain to go downtown flames and the coaches are sure to hear about it.

MeanGreenTexan · August 19, 2015

“The top guys want Andrew in there,” Canales said. “They ask to throw extra balls and work on things. They are focusing on how to play together. That has mended the bridge that was broken. It’s fixed now. We are rolling.”

Oh! Well, there you go then.

DallasGreen · August 19, 2015

Quote in this morning's DAMN from SMU Coach Chad Morris " When you step on that field you are going to have to kill us to beat us"!!! Wasn't boot camp's slogan for UNT "Hunt,Kill,Eat"? SMU says they have hit more this fall than in the last 5 years combined. This will be a very PHYSICAL GAME.

Aldo · August 19, 2015

“He can see if we are in a bad play pre-snap and get us into a good play."

That's a big deal to me.

MeanGreenTexan · August 19, 2015

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“He can see if we are in a bad play pre-snap and get us into a good play."

That's a big deal to me.

If Smith can't do this, then we're in big trouble.

Chico's paper test strikes again.

Edited August 19, 2015 by MeanGreenTexan

SilverEagle · August 19, 2015

Quote in this morning's DAMN from SMU Coach Chad Morris " When you step on that field you are going to have to kill us to beat us"!!! Wasn't boot camp's slogan for UNT "Hunt,Kill,Eat"? SMU says they have hit more this fall than in the last 5 years combined. This will be a very PHYSICAL GAME.

So, after Baylor kills them on 9-5, does that mean they are done for the year?

Aldo · August 19, 2015

If Smith can't do this, then we're in big trouble.
Chico's paper test strikes again.

I don't think it's a comment on any of the other QBs, but rather a comment on McNulty's improvement as a QB since last year. As in, last year he couldn't do that.

If you don't know what your pass pro is (or your run blocking) and you're left with a free defender, then you're gonna scramble or lose yards on a run. That happened a lot last year.

Just gotta give Smith some time.

SilverEagle · August 19, 2015

“The top guys want Andrew in there,” Canales said. “They ask to throw extra balls and work on things. They are focusing on how to play together. That has mended the bridge that was broken. It’s fixed now. We are rolling.”

You know, if this is what they are putting all their focus and hopes on, then the O-line better make sure that the worst thing a defense does to AM is hurt is feelings with the occasional insult.

MeanGreenTexan · August 19, 2015

I don't think it's a comment on any of the other QBs, but rather a comment on McNulty's improvement as a QB since last year. As in, last year he couldn't do that.
If you don't know what your pass pro is (or your run blocking) and you're left with a free defender, then you're gonna scramble or lose yards on a run. That happened a lot last year.
Just gotta give Smith some time.

I thought McNulty could do that last year... hence McCarney & Chico liked him better than Greer/Dajon... but that was the only thing he could do.
His execution of pass plays were crap-shoots.

Pre-snap checking is great. Your QB definitely needs to know how to do that and call the better play if there is one. But it's of greater importance to actually execute the play. (Of course, if he's checking to Mr. Wilson, it's all good).

Army of Dad · August 19, 2015

I thought McNulty could do that last year... hence McCarney & Chico liked him better than Greer/Dajon... but that was the only thing he could do.
His execution of pass plays were crap-shoots.

Pre-snap checking is great. Your QB definitely needs to know how to do that and call the better play if there is one. But it's of greater importance to actually execute the play. (Of course, if he's checking to Mr. Wilson, it's all good).

Correction: he will have to check out of a run because you know that's what will be called on 1st down. (And 2nd and maybe even 3rd)

;)

Aldo · August 19, 2015

His execution of pass plays were crap-shoots.

I think on all passing plays or PAs they should run all boots and we should be good B-)

Get McNulty out of the pocket and we see a decent passer.

MeanGreenTexan · August 19, 2015

Correction: he will have to check out of a run because you know that's what will be called on 1st down. (And 2nd and maybe even 3rd)

;)

If he reads pressure in the middle, check to an outside run.
If he reads pressure from the outsides, check to an inside run.
If the ball is in Wilson's hands, it's all good. I think, if he stays healthy and Jimmy doesn't take too many carries from him this season, he has a good chance of getting close to Dunbar's career record, Jamario's #3 spot in the top 5 would definitely be in trouble.

GMG24 · August 19, 2015

I think on all passing plays or PAs they should run all boots and we should be good B-)
Get McNulty out of the pocket and we see a decent passer.

That severely limits what you can do in the passing game and really turns it into concept based stuff

Aldo · August 19, 2015

That severely limits what you can do in the passing game and really turns it into concept based stuff

I was mostly being facetious. Mostly.

GMG24 · August 19, 2015

If he reads pressure in the middle, check to an outside run.If he reads pressure from the outsides, check to an inside run.
If the ball is in Wilson's hands, it's all good. I think, if he stays healthy and Jimmy doesn't take too many carries from him this season, he has a good chance of getting close to Dunbar's career record, Jamario's #3 spot in the top 5 would definitely be in trouble.

From what I have been told, they are doing more of a numbered check, so if you have more than 6 in the box, its a pass check, if theres 5 in the box you run. Or something similar.

I was mostly being facetious. Mostly.

lol dang internet, and not being able to tell peoples intentions, touche you got me.

MeanGreenTexan · August 19, 2015

From what I have been told, they are doing more of a numbered check, so if you have more than 6 in the box, its a pass check, if theres 5 in the box you run. Or something similar.
...

Well,
I guess we should be looking for a bunch of pass checks this year... likely to bubble screens on the outside? We know we're not going deep w/McNulty, and unless they've improved their chemistry over the offseason, we know he can't consistently hit Marcus Smith on a seam.

LongJim · August 19, 2015

I think it's telling that the receivers are really coming on. IMO, that was a big part of the issue last year. Needed more playmakers out there.

IslandEagle · August 19, 2015

I think it's telling that the receivers are really coming on. IMO, that was a big part of the issue last year. Needed more playmakers out there.

I agree. I am gratified that both they and Mac have put in so much work this summer. I sincerely hope it pays

off. I guess we will know in a month or so.

GMG24 · August 19, 2015

Well,I guess we should be looking for a bunch of pass checks this year... likely to bubble screens on the outside? We know we're not going deep w/McNulty, and unless they've improved their chemistry over the offseason, we know he can't consistently hit Marcus Smith on a seam.

typically it is a quick read, so if your corner is off you run a hitch/stop, if they're pressed up or within 5 yards you run a go. Or you send in two plays and the check just puts you in the run or pass whichever is the better one as determined by your numbers.

Ben Gooding · August 19, 2015

If Mcnulty can show improvement on the field he'll have my full support. If, if, if.

The moment he starts making bad decisions along with poor throws and it costs us a game then he's gotta go.

Green P1 · August 19, 2015

McNultly can tell almost immediately if his guys are correctly lined up to receive the WR screen.....

I tried to to tell you guys it was THE END.

Ryan Munthe · August 19, 2015

Mac is all in on the McNulty train right now.

Bold move, Cotton. Let's see if it pays off.

greenit · August 19, 2015

I don't mind it that much. What I really want to see happen is for DS to establish himself as the clear #2 so he is ready to step in if AM falters.

Mat this point, barring injury, it looks like AM is going to get his chance. Hope he nails it, but if not, let's have a plan B.

Harry · August 19, 2015

I don't mind it that much. What I really want to see happen is for DS to establish himself as the clear #2 so he is ready to step in if AM falters.
Mat this point, barring injury, it looks like AM is going to get his chance. Hope he nails it, but if not, let's have a plan B.

This is a very valid post as AM has had injury issues in the past. It happens to the best of them at this level. i would still see Josh Greer being the #2 guy in the forseeable future. Had DaMarcus been here in the spring it might have been a different story.

Edited August 19, 2015 by Harry