UNT's Biggest Rival

Harry · July 27, 2015

Who do you see as UNT's biggest rival in terms of where we are today?

I find it an interesting question. My gut says SMU, but they would deny ever being our rival and rivalries are supposed to be a two way street. Of course playing them the next 20 years will help in that regard.

I think UTSA would welcome being our rival and I think it makes a lot of sense given our conference and proximity etc but UNT90 and others, well you know,,,

La. Tech could be a great rivalry as well.

Let's hear your thoughts..

Edited July 27, 2015 by Harry

Ben Gooding · July 27, 2015

Our administration.

Side Show Joe · July 27, 2015

I had to vote other, for lack of the "None" option.

Sadly, after a hundred years of football, we have no rival. In my eyes a rivalry is an established series of games, and requires a fairly even number of wins on by both sides. I'd like to see us develop a true rivalry with Rice. Representing the two largest cities in Texas, this would be the most logical rivalry and it would be best for C-USA.

golfingomez · July 27, 2015

i think the UNT's biggest rivalry is the 'SOW vs North Texas' on the helmet

untcampbell · July 27, 2015

SSJ defined the rivalry concept well but I would add that the university communities, i.e. students, faculty, administration, alumni, of BOTH schools have to care for it to be a rivalry. Something magical has to happen at a game, a 7-OT shootout or a player coming off the sidelines to tackle an unopposed runner, that gets national headlines. Incidents, usually occurring late at night and would involve cops if known about as they happen, have to transpire. Since we have never painted Peruna (sp?) green and they haven't stolen the Model A, SMU doesn't count.

UTSA makes the most sense. Since they are relatively new opponents, perhaps we, the university communities of both schools, can build a rivalry as it should be, in attention-grabbing, back-and-forth fashion over the years.

That said, I chose SMU based simply on my internal desire to destroy that school on the football field. Join me?

GMG

GreenTexan13 · July 27, 2015

I think it is SMU.

We are close enough in proximity to bump elbows amongst fans.
We compete for recruits, all I hear about is SMU stole this kid or UNT stole this kid.
Our history goes way back to 1922, (Safeway bowl too) Yes I do realize their win ratio is bigger.

The problem is (and Harry already covered this) that SMU would rather plunge off a cliff before accepting us as a rival. I personally think they need to get off their high horse (or in their case, high pony) and realize that TCU has moved on to the power house and will be making Baylor and UT rivals. If they want to call TCU a rival, then I guess we should start talking smack talk to some horned frogs on their forums and spy on them.

UTSA is our best bet at both parties accepting a rivalry, but a rivalry starts by both teams having wins on each other. North Texas has to decide on Halloween, whether or not they can give UNT fans the satisfaction of a win against these roadrunners and get this UTSA squash train rolling.

UNTexas · July 27, 2015

I don't think we really have a rival but there are several I don't personally like. I despise UTEP and their fans. (I'm lived in EP and have a lot of friends who went there.)

drex · July 27, 2015

North Texas' biggest rival(s) are the City of Denton and TWU...both sap our potential.

untjim1995 · July 27, 2015

apathy

UNT86 · July 27, 2015

Taking a modern day approach to the SMU series, since the end of WWII and since the Ponies had to quit cheating, we are 3-3 against them.

Using the same criteria (post WWII and without the Governor making payments) vs Rice we are 2-3.

Against UTSA 0-2

UTEP 14-6-3

La Tech 6-7

The problem with creating a rival is that you have to play them on a regular basis. In the last 70 years, we've hardly played any of these schools.

Still, I loathe the Geldings the most.

TIgreen01 · July 27, 2015

This is easy if you vote, "who do you hate most". As the poll currently posits, I have no clue.

Tyler Maryak · July 27, 2015

If we get some Ws against UTSA, I think there's a much better chance for rivalry there than any other school. Until then, I'll go with "other" for a lack of "none" like Side Show Joe.

greenjoe · July 27, 2015

I hope a successful season doesn't hinge on beating Southern Meth. I heard it said over and over on weekend sandlot football games, "Cheaters never win-Winners never cheat." I'd just as soon drop them from our schedule except for the low travel cost and the sure win aspect.

mark me down for UTSA. Although, as Coach MaC has said, we have to win occasionally for this to be a rivalry.

GO MEAN GREEN

Withers940 · July 27, 2015

As much as I completely Hate/Dislike UTSA and their fans, I hate the city slickers of SMU a hell of a lot more. Just because they have this entitlement attitude and are smug.

malonish · July 27, 2015

I'm super smug from my 1500 sq ft mansion you guys.

But srs, the dynamic of the SMUNT relationship makes it very interesting and I could see it becoming one of the bigger G5 rivalries now that the series is scheduled out.

Withers940 · July 28, 2015

I'm super smug from my 1500 sq ft mansion you guys.

But srs, the dynamic of the SMUNT relationship makes it very interesting and I could see it becoming one of the bigger G5 rivalries now that the series is scheduled out.

Not all SMU people are Smug but I would say more than 90% are

Aldo · July 28, 2015

Not all SMU people are Smug but I would say more than 90% are

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VideoEagle · July 28, 2015

I picked SMU. I don't care that many SMU folks don't think it's one. Back when A&M was in the Big12, their most hated rival by far was UT. UT is even in their fight song - no mater whom they play, A&M still wants to saw Bevo's horns off! (I bet that's confusing for Alabama.) But for UT, it was a game just like Tech was a game. The RIVAL for UT since the 70s was OU, not A&M.

Cougar King · July 28, 2015

I picked SMU. I don't care that many SMU folks don't think it's one. Back when A&M was in the Big12, their most hated rival by far was UT. UT is even in their fight song - no mater whom they play, A&M still wants to saw Bevo's horns off! (I bet that's confusing for Alabama.) But for UT, it was a game just like Tech was a game. The RIVAL for UT since the 70s was OU, not A&M.

Then why is "and its goodbye to A&M" in the whorns' fight song?

Harry · July 28, 2015

I'm pretty sure A&M was bigger rival to Texas than OU. Now they don't play so not so much.

greenit · July 28, 2015

Then why is "and its goodbye to A&M" in the whorns' fight song?

That could mean anything

Aldo · July 29, 2015

Order of UT hatred growing up

1. A&M. Rivalry level: burn in hell

2. OU. Rivalry level: hate you but dammit I respect you Ron Burgundy

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3. Tech. Rivalry level: Who the eff is Crabtr--NOOOOOOOOOO!!!

GreenTexan13 · July 29, 2015

Not all SMU people are Smug but I would say more than 90% are

The 10% had finally left the smug radiation zone called, "Dallas",

Edited July 29, 2015 by GreenTexan13

untjim1995 · July 29, 2015

In all seriousness, the school that views us as a huge rival is probably UTA, since we compete with them for Metroplex students and have played several years in basketball. UTSA probably likes us as a "rival" in football, since we are an in-state school that has some name recognition from fielding a team for decades, yet still haven't beat them (sad)...

Ben Gooding · July 29, 2015

No one at UNT views UTA as a rival. They don't have a football team so that is settled. UTA may see us as an enrollment rival...that's where that stops. Nothing more. Even bringing them, us and rival up in the same sentence is dumb.

And as far as basketball goes...this is Texas. Football rules this roost.