If McNulty makes the grade will you step down?

[Cr1028]

laSince it's relevant, I'll mention Georgia again.  When Derek hurt his hand and they sent in McNulty, I was all like, "Oh, crap!" and when the Georgia fans we were watching with asked about him, I relayed some basic info and one replied, "So...he's your handoff specialist, huh?"  I responded in the affirmative, and McNulty then went on to go 5 -for-5 against freaking UGA's defense, at which point, they remarked, "Wow, your handoff specialist is one hell of a passer!"

 

So I've never counted McNulty out since then.  He's not been the greatest, but you never know when someone's flashes might become consistent enough to give them a huge breakout year.  If he actually beats out the competition rather than getting in by way of favors, and then has a stellar (or at least above-average) year, I'll be glad that he took the bits of greatness...uhm, at least above-averageness...that we've seen before and put them all together to have a hell of a season.  Of course, if they put him in and it's obvious that there's a better QB on the roster, AND he fares poorly, then I'll join the naysayers.

You were seriously worried about McNulty coming in with 1:46 left in the game down 45-21?

They probably expected us to run out the clock and surely didn't have their top defense or play calls in for that series.

DT completed 58% of his passes for 200yds, 1 td and 1 int against freaking UGA's defense. AM threw for 200yds in 2 of the 6 games he started last year and those were against powerhouses USM and UTSA. Oh yea, and he didn't complete 58% in either game but he did throw 1 td against UTSA and their defense is just as good as UGA so there ya go..

Edited July 8, 2015 by Cr1028

[UNT90]

Thompson's best is better than McNulty's best.  But Thompson's worst is some of the worst QBing I have ever seen.  People act like we were an average QB away from being good last season.  Some are acting like we are an average QB away from being good this year and that McNulty will be the reason we lose.  If the rest of the team was balling last year, I could see bashing McNulty.

 

Even in our wins in 2013, DT was bailed out.  Ball State, the defense created FIVE turnovers.  LaTech we had whitfield with 2 picks, one to the house.  Rice we had the stand, KO return, and the wheel route (?) to Jimmerson.  UNLV we had good defense and lets not forget Chancellor also had a huge game.  Didn't he run in two TDs? 

McNulty had none of that.  McNulty threw the pick 6 against Rice, so that is on him...even if he was hurt.  That game was winnable.  Other than that game, he played like the rest of the team.

 

Our team played well enough to win against UTSA, Ohio, and Tulane.  DT did not show up and it may as well been McNulty out there.  As bad as McNulty was last year, there was never a Troy State moment where the defense was begging him to go out there and win the game. 

A goodQB can mean a 4 game swing in CUSA, maybe more.

 

See La. Tech from last season. 

 

When a defense is forced to be on the field 35 to 40 minutes a game because the offense is going 3 and out 3 out of every 4 possessions, they aren't going to hold up. Ever.

 

The only chance this team has at .500 is if DS wins the job BEFORE the SMU game and proves to be a very good to great CUSA QB.

 

He is the only player that can make that much of a difference on this team.

 

And I'll call it here. If Mini Mac starts at SMU, UNT loses that game. Hope I'm wrong, but I doubt it.

Edited July 8, 2015 by UNT90

[Ben Gooding]

Losing the opener to SMU with AM as our QB would be the ultimate gut punch. Because I, like most people on this board, believe that DS will take over the starting job at some point. Allowing AM to piss away what could have been a W vs a hated rival would for all intents and purposes be a season killer. 

[Cr1028]

A goodQB can mean a 4 game swing in CUSA, maybe more.

 

See La. Tech from last season. 

 

When a defense is forced to be on the field 35 to 40 minutes a game because the offense is going 3 and out 3 out of every 4 possessions, they aren't going to hold up. Ever.

 

The only chance this team has at .500 is if DS wins the job BEFORE the SMU game and proves to be a very good to great CUSA QB.

 

He is the only player that can make that much of a difference on this team.

 

And I'll call it here. If Mini Mac starts at SMU, UNT loses that game. Hope I'm wrong, but I doubt it.

Ugh, UTEP, we punted 8 times that game. I don't know how the defense had the energy to deal with that.

[UNT90]

They didn't. UTEP ran for like 2000 yards that game.

[Harry]

@GOMG2013 you make some valid points.  I do think DT scored the winning TD on a run on his own in that Ball State game.  You are correct it is hard to find a game that season where our defense did not come up huge.  Certainly Rice was a game that the defense played a big role in the win amongst others.

@UNT90 if you think Mac and Chico will put the SMU game on Mini's shoulders you're wrong.  They will be running it up the gut, throwing short safe passes, taking absolutely no chances especially with this being on the road.  So I contend who is at QB makes little difference in the SMU game quite honestly.  It is going to lie heavily on our defense and special teams much like it did last year.

Edited July 8, 2015 by Harry

[Cr1028]

Losing the opener to SMU with AM as our QB would be the ultimate gut punch. Because I, like most people on this board, believe that DS will take over the starting job at some point. Allowing AM to piss away what could have been a W vs a hated rival would for all intents and purposes be a season killer. 

Especially for those that sat through the last gut punch when Meager threw for 600 yards and we still lost the damn game. That made me way sicker than the 79-10 ass-whipping I attended in Norman the week before. It was the longest DART rail ride home I could ever imagine. I f'n HATE SMU.

Edited July 8, 2015 by Cr1028

[UNT90]

Unless SMU has an offense, Harry. Unless SMU scores first and loads 10 in the box. 

Unless SMU actually has a real, interested head football coach who badly wants to make a really good first impression.

 

If any of you think this game is going to be a repeat of last year, you are sadly mistaken. We will be lucky to get out of there with a 1 point win, and we may (gasp!!!) have to throw downfield to get that 1 point advantage.

[Cerebus]

my boner grows with this post.

[risinggreen]

A goodQB can mean a 4 game swing in CUSA, maybe more.

 

See La. Tech from last season. 

 

When a defense is forced to be on the field 35 to 40 minutes a game because the offense is going 3 and out 3 out of every 4 possessions, they aren't going to hold up. Ever.

 

The only chance this team has at .500 is if DS wins the job BEFORE the SMU game and proves to be a very good to great CUSA QB.

 

He is the only player that can make that much of a difference on this team.

 

And I'll call it here. If Mini Mac starts at SMU, UNT loses that game. Hope I'm wrong, but I doubt it.

The days of 3 yards and a cloud of dust are long gone. We plain and simply need the best ball moving QB out there right off the bat. I really hope that our staff realizes and acts upon that thought. I love baseball, but damn I'm glad that it's almost pigskin time. 

[Rudy]

I root for the team to win, I don't care if Marvin the Martian is the starting QB. 

[North Texas Shep]

I am behind whom ever gets the nod. However, I am an armchair QB set in my ways ( like most). So, I will complain all off season and every time I feel it necessary (like most). 

[JesseMartin]

You were seriously worried about McNulty coming in with 1:46 left in the game down 45-21?

They probably expected us to run out the clock and surely didn't have their top defense or play calls in for that series.

DT completed 58% of his passes for 200yds, 1 td and 1 int against freaking UGA's defense. AM threw for 200yds in 2 of the 6 games he started last year and those were against powerhouses USM and UTSA. Oh yea, and he didn't complete 58% in either game but he did throw 1 td against UTSA and their defense is just as good as UGA so there ya go..

Yeah, I was worried, especially when he was going to pass, because I expected a pick-6.  As for the comparisons, you must not have read the rest of my post, because it referred to the possibilities that someone's "flashes" might eventually translate to a breakout season, and that if it didn't, I'd join the rest of you in terms of negativity if he gets the job and doesn't perform.

[H-towngreen]

If AM has the same season that DT had his senior season, then AM will be going into the HOF just like DT.

[Mean_Green09]

McNulty is a nice kid, good heart but....

He wont make the grade. It is impossible for him to make such a jump that leads UNT back to a bowl game. He has to better than DT and he has to do that against a tougher schedule than DT had to face. Could he improve to be an average QB yeah I could see that. Above average would be asking a bit much.Top tier conference is impossible. All conference is laughable. 

McNulty's best hope is that the defense is better than 2013 and the offensive weapons are better than 2013. If both those things happen he would have a chance of making the grade. 

[GOMG2013]

There is no excuse not to move the ball downfield with the running backs we have and quality receivers like Carlos Harris. AM has way more trouble moving the ball downfield than DT ever did, and other than starting field position, that has zero to do with the defense or special teams.

Is this a joke?  Seriously?  I thought we were talking real football.  And I think the worst thing about this post is that someone liked it.  You got someone to buy into that statement.

 

I appreciate the work these guys put in, but to act like McNulty had weapons at his disposal is just....just...incredible.  Im trying to keep it polite.  Byrd was a CUSA honorable mention RB. Pegram was not a D1 running back last year.  he was nice in 2013 before the injury, but last year was bad.  Ybarbo was not 100%. He went from 2nd team CUSA, to no team for 2014. Snacks was out of shape and late on a lot of blocks.  Darnell Smith made honorable mention CUSA in 2013....Darius Terrell...come on...it should be obvious AM would have trouble moving the ball WITH A WORSE TEAM!!!! 

 

 

A goodQB can mean a 4 game swing in CUSA, maybe more.

 

See La. Tech from last season. 

 

The only chance this team has at .500 is if DS wins the job BEFORE the SMU game and proves to be a very good to great CUSA QB.

 

He is the only player that can make that much of a difference on this team.

I agree.  A GOOD QB.  So let please, lets stop bringing up DT and acting like if McNulty played like DT, we would have had a good season last year.  If McNulty does make a jump and gives us DT 2013 output, it still wont be enough if the other players do not perform to an all CUSA team level like a lot of the 2013 team did. 

 

[Cr1028]

Is this a joke?  Seriously?  I thought we were talking real football.  And I think the worst thing about this post is that someone liked it.  You got someone to buy into that statement.

 

I appreciate the work these guys put in, but to act like McNulty had weapons at his disposal is just....just...incredible.  Im trying to keep it polite.  Byrd was a CUSA honorable mention RB. Pegram was not a D1 running back last year.  he was nice in 2013 before the injury, but last year was bad.  Ybarbo was not 100%. He went from 2nd team CUSA, to no team for 2014. Snacks was out of shape and late on a lot of blocks.  Darnell Smith made honorable mention CUSA in 2013....Darius Terrell...come on...it should be obvious AM would have trouble moving the ball WITH A WORSE TEAM!!!! 

DT moved the ball better in '11 and '12 as well. Are you saying that last year's offensive weapons were the worst we've had in Mac's entire tenure?

[Harry]

Is this a joke?  Seriously?  I thought we were talking real football.  And I think the worst thing about this post is that someone liked it.  You got someone to buy into that statement.

 

I appreciate the work these guys put in, but to act like McNulty had weapons at his disposal is just....just...incredible.  Im trying to keep it polite.  Byrd was a CUSA honorable mention RB. Pegram was not a D1 running back last year.  he was nice in 2013 before the injury, but last year was bad.  Ybarbo was not 100%. He went from 2nd team CUSA, to no team for 2014. Snacks was out of shape and late on a lot of blocks.  Darnell Smith made honorable mention CUSA in 2013....Darius Terrell...come on...it should be obvious AM would have trouble moving the ball WITH A WORSE TEAM!!!! 

 

 

I agree.  A GOOD QB.  So let please, lets stop bringing up DT and acting like if McNulty played like DT, we would have had a good season last year.  If McNulty does make a jump and gives us DT 2013 output, it still wont be enough if the other players do not perform to an all CUSA team level like a lot of the 2013 team did. 

 

Bravo @GOMG2013.  I think you hit the nail on the head in terms of results.  Especially the oline and WR.   We were exposed there all season long.

[Green P1]

If my turds all of a sudden turned into pickles... would I start eatin'm on my sandwiches? 

 

 

Question, no info. 

[Withers940]

If McNulty has a DT like season and gets us a bowl game, then I'm Miles Davis

[Got5onIt]

There is no physical comparison between DT & AM. DT looked like a legitimate college QB on the field. AM does not. You'll never convince me he's got FBS talent. Yeah, I know I'm arm chairin' it, but I've been around enough football in my lifetime to trust me eyes.  Reality is, McNulty will be on a leash so short, Mac won't even need a headset to talk to him from the sideline. There is a reason they've taken a chance on JuCo QBs 2 years in a row. 

 

As as for the original question, yes I would support AM and get off the dog pile if he miraculously comes out lighting it up.

[TheTastyGreek]

If my turds all of a sudden turned into pickles... would I start eatin'm on my sandwiches? 

 

 

Question, no info. 

My big regret about this new board software is that we're no longer able to designate a thread as "answered". 

[Christopher Walker]

Makes the grade?

Depends upon how low our grading rubric has become.

[outoftown]

DT moved the ball better in '11 and '12 as well. Are you saying that last year's offensive weapons were the worst we've had in Mac's entire tenure?

I don't know about GOMG13, but I surely would say this. Carlos Harris was good, but not as good as Brelan Chancellor, and CH was doing pretty much all thee recieving heavy lifting completely by his own (which may be part of why he did not look as good as BC). In terms of RB, last seasons output was definitely not what it had been the previous seasons, and while one may debate the reasons (injuries, less talent to begin with, worse run blocking), I think we can agree that it had little to do with AM. 

At least I am optimistic and think that both RB and WR are likely to improve this season (I got no clue where the OL will go this season). Particularly chances for improved WR play seem very real, and stopping DBs to be able to completely focus on CH would really help whomever is the QB.

[UNT90]

Bravo @GOMG2013.  I think you hit the nail on the head in terms of results.  Especially the oline and WR.   We were exposed there all season long.

Actually, we have no idea if we had decent WRs or not because QB SUCKED SO BAD!

 

How the hell are you supposed to rate WRs when you have NO ONE that can throw a forward pass?

Edited July 10, 2015 by UNT90