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I love UNT football, have for years. But who ever is setting the spring game at Apogee is asleep at the wheel. The game is an opportunity for fans to see their players and coaches on the field an to rejuvinate interest for the upcoming season.. So, as a long time

jocks and socks fan I think UNT needs to make the spring game more fun by having fire works, Cheer leaders handing out t-shirts, and a real band playing music.Basically for non jocks and socks fans the event is a bore. Wake up UNT, attract people. Someone is lazy.

I love UNT football, have for years. But who ever is setting the spring game at Apogee is asleep at the wheel. The game is an opportunity for fans to see their players and coaches on the field an to rejuvinate interest for the upcoming season.. So, as a long time

jocks and socks fan I think UNT needs to make the spring game more fun by having fire worksp . Cheer leadears handing out t-shirts, and a real band playing music.Basically for non jocks and socks fans the event is a bore. Wake up UNT, attract people. Someone is lazy.

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I have said the same thing for years. Said it again this year. The spring game needs to be a big time event...lots of tailgating fun, events, pretty much a real game atmosphere both on and off the field. Make it a big spring party. Could be fun, could bring new fans or get long time fans fired up. Oh, well...we'll see, one never knows.

Yes, folks are awake, but we have been down this topic so very many times.

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The spring game could be a dynamite event, where is Rick V. on this ? So far it's flat. This is not a trick question.

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I know it is easy to bag on RV and he deserves a lot of criticism for many things. But let's be solution centered on this glorious Mothers Day in North Texas.

I train hotel staffs striving towards reaching high end goals and one of my messages to the leaders is that they can't and should not do it alone. The leaders in that room will never have all of the answers and more importantly the creativity lies in the frontline staff of the operations. The best of the best I train find ways to unleash that creativity and quickly a culture of energy, freshness and impact emerges. Just on this board alone there is such incredible talent. Imagine unleashing the students ideas, skills and talents - bringing all of these elements together to move Mean Green Marketing and Promotions to heights never seen in my 29 years of following North Texas.

Right now on May 10th organize committees for the following:

1. Game day shirts. Look at all the buzz one upside down green and white pony generated. At USC and ASU you can buy a game day shirt for every home game before the season even starts. There is at least $100 waiting to be handed over for the "Game Day Shirt Pack," even in a five home game season. I never forget the game day shirts at LSU and Tiger fan wanted our game shirt to read - Smoke the Mean Green. Certainly you can get some creative juices going for a Viking, Owl, Red Blob - I vote for "Whats A Hilltopper" with a big green question mark, dirtybird and Miner. In the bookstores you could also buy rubber bracelets that simply said, "Beat Stanford," Beat UCLA, Beat, Washington...While your at it Committee please put together the Pennant packet with all the different schools so I can decorate my home office and tailgate tent. Better include UAB for now.

2. Away game extravaganza. I know there is already some effort here, but I am talking about the travel agency who negotiates room blocks for the Mean Green hotel. We are traveling to some new destinations this year like West Virginia and Knoxville so include tour and site data for the surrounding areas to make a weekend of it. I saw this done out in Fresno and it was great that you could contact one agency who had already collected tour data, had room blocks and airfare information for Bulldog fans traveling to their team. This was also an effort done well at Hawaii when the Warrior fans would travel to the Mainland.

3. Game Day pageantry Flags. How awesome would it look for the Green Brigade to be marching into Apogee and onto the field with large CUSA flags representing each school. Similar to what you see with the Big 12 schools when they are lined up showcasing their institutions as one. Of course we could lead with a North Texas Flag and have a Mean Green flag at the end.

4. Game Day pageantry Fatheads. The ROC student section at BYU is awesome (Roar of the Cougars) and they hold up ALL kinds of fatheads during the games. You see Taylor Swift, Kim Kardashian, famous alumni, politicians, mascots...during the games and at kickoffs. This is more of a basketball thing but it could work at designated times during the game like when they play that annoying 3rd qtr song - ughhh. But at the end of the game all the fatheads go down to the front of the student section for the ROC coordinators to collect until next game. I could see the Talons coordinating such an event. Also they unwrap and move the BYU flag from the bottom to the top of the stands at a designated part of each game. It is quite a buildup and something I look forward to when I watch them in person. But we need a HUGE flag that needs to be bought and maintained. We need a donation coordinate for fatheads. We need the fathead creators - We have to have coach Mac, Coach Macs glasses, Mean Joe, Dunbar, Smastrek...to name a few.

Rick could look like a savior and genius if he would simply UNLEASH the creativity of the Mean Green Nation - alumni, current students and friends of the University.

GMG

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I know it is easy to bag on RV and he deserves a lot of criticism for many things. But let's be solution centered on this glorious Mothers Day in North Texas.

I train hotel staffs striving towards reaching high end goals and one of my messages to the leaders is that they can't and should not do it alone. The leaders in that room will never have all of the answers and more importantly the creativity lies in the frontline staff of the operations. The best of the best I train find ways to unleash that creativity and quickly a culture of energy, freshness and impact emerges. Just on this board alone there is such incredible talent. Imagine unleashing the students ideas, skills and talents - bringing all of these elements together to move Mean Green Marketing and Promotions to heights never seen in my 29 years of following North Texas.

Right now on May 10th organize committees for the following:

1. Game day shirts. Look at all the buzz one upside down green and white pony generated. At USC and ASU you can buy a game day shirt for every home game before the season even starts. There is at least $100 waiting to be handed over for the "Game Day Shirt Pack," even in a five home game season. I never forget the game day shirts at LSU and Tiger fan wanted our game shirt to read - Smoke the Mean Green. Certainly you can get some creative juices going for a Viking, Owl, Red Blob - I vote for "Whats A Hilltopper" with a big green question mark, dirtybird and Miner. In the bookstores you could also buy rubber bracelets that simply said, "Beat Stanford," Beat UCLA, Beat, Washington...While your at it Committee please put together the Pennant packet with all the different schools so I can decorate my home office and tailgate tent. Better include UAB for now.

2. Away game extravaganza. I know there is already some effort here, but I am talking about the travel agency who negotiates room blocks for the Mean Green hotel. We are traveling to some new destinations this year like West Virginia and Knoxville so include tour and site data for the surrounding areas to make a weekend of it. I saw this done out in Fresno and it was great that you could contact one agency who had already collected tour data, had room blocks and airfare information for Bulldog fans traveling to their team. This was also an effort done well at Hawaii when the Warrior fans would travel to the Mainland.

3. Game Day pageantry Flags. How awesome would it look for the Green Brigade to be marching into Apogee and onto the field with large CUSA flags representing each school. Similar to what you see with the Big 12 schools when they are lined up showcasing their institutions as one. Of course we could lead with a North Texas Flag and have a Mean Green flag at the end.

4. Game Day pageantry Fatheads. The ROC student section at BYU is awesome (Roar of the Cougars) and they hold up ALL kinds of fatheads during the games. You see Taylor Swift, Kim Kardashian, famous alumni, politicians, mascots...during the games and at kickoffs. This is more of a basketball thing but it could work at designated times during the game like when they play that annoying 3rd qtr song - ughhh. But at the end of the game all the fatheads go down to the front of the student section for the ROC coordinators to collect until next game. I could see the Talons coordinating such an event. Also they unwrap and move the BYU flag from the bottom to the top of the stands at a designated part of each game. It is quite a buildup and something I look forward to when I watch them in person. But we need a HUGE flag that needs to be bought and maintained. We need a donation coordinate for fatheads. We need the fathead creators - We have to have coach Mac, Coach Macs glasses, Mean Joe, Dunbar, Smastrek...to name a few.

Rick could look like a savior and genius if he would simply UNLEASH the creativity of the Mean Green Nation - alumni, current students and friends of the University.

GMG

Well, we are the creative heartbeat of Texas.

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As long as tailgating is allowed, if they aren't doing it someone with time available could set it up. There's a lot that people (myself included) say should/would/could happen, and yeah, the University should get it rolling. But in the absence of that...the complaining just keeps going. At some point, if you want it to happen badly enough, just get a group of people together and coordinate anything that is within your legal means to do.

As Emmitt could tell you, if it's a success, someone at UNT will end up funding it and committing staff and resources to it. They may even take credit for it in the long run, but geez, just get started. If I was closer I'd volunteer for whatever, but since I have to do everything remotely and am rarely able to get back to Texas, it's going to take a few other people to get it done.

Luckily, real estate back in the Lone Star State is starting to look really nice (price-wise) lately, so depending upon how that all goes, I may be able to help out more often soon anyway.

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I agree with "mean green eagle " BUT... Rick V needs to open his eyes and see that he needs help, we all do. It makes us better. As a CEO I have been through it.

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I know it is easy to bag on RV and he deserves a lot of criticism for many things. But let's be solution centered on this glorious Mothers Day in North Texas.

I train hotel staffs striving towards reaching high end goals and one of my messages to the leaders is that they can't and should not do it alone. The leaders in that room will never have all of the answers and more importantly the creativity lies in the frontline staff of the operations. The best of the best I train find ways to unleash that creativity and quickly a culture of energy, freshness and impact emerges. Just on this board alone there is such incredible talent. Imagine unleashing the students ideas, skills and talents - bringing all of these elements together to move Mean Green Marketing and Promotions to heights never seen in my 29 years of following North Texas.

Right now on May 10th organize committees for the following:

1. Game day shirts. Look at all the buzz one upside down green and white pony generated. At USC and ASU you can buy a game day shirt for every home game before the season even starts. There is at least $100 waiting to be handed over for the "Game Day Shirt Pack," even in a five home game season. I never forget the game day shirts at LSU and Tiger fan wanted our game shirt to read - Smoke the Mean Green. Certainly you can get some creative juices going for a Viking, Owl, Red Blob - I vote for "Whats A Hilltopper" with a big green question mark, dirtybird and Miner. In the bookstores you could also buy rubber bracelets that simply said, "Beat Stanford," Beat UCLA, Beat, Washington...While your at it Committee please put together the Pennant packet with all the different schools so I can decorate my home office and tailgate tent. Better include UAB for now.

Now this is PURE Genius!!! This is a fantastic idea and with how good our art department is at UNT, they could easily come up with a design for each team and then get it on a T-Shirt. There is decent margin in T-Shirt Sales and this would generate so much money for the Athletic Dept and not to mention raise spirit all over campus/town. I mean, who doesnt want a T-shirt with an eagle carrying off a miner/roadrunner/the Red Blob?

You could sell them in a pack before the season like you said and maybe include them as an option with season tickets like the chairbacks. Then set up tables in front of the stadium entrances on game days along with it being in the Apogee Store as a single shirt for the current game or a season pack. $$$$$$$.... I would buy them for my entire family.

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Now this is PURE Genius!!! This is a fantastic idea and with how good our art department is at UNT, they could easily come up with a design for each team and then get it on a T-Shirt. There is decent margin in T-Shirt Sales and this would generate so much money for the Athletic Dept and not to mention raise spirit all over campus/town. I mean, who doesnt want a T-shirt with an eagle carrying off a miner/roadrunner/the Red Blob?

You could sell them in a pack before the season like you said and maybe include them as an option with season tickets like the chairbacks. Then set up tables in front of the stadium entrances on game days along with it being in the Apogee Store as a single shirt for the current game or a season pack. $$$$$$$.... I would buy them for my entire family.

It is a good idea and kind of surprising it hasn't happened before. Who do we need to mass group email to ensure that momentum gets behind this?

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It is a good idea and kind of surprising it hasn't happened before. Who do we need to mass group email to ensure that momentum gets behind this?

Maybe Kayla Spears, she is the Coordinator of Marketing and Promotions for the Athletic Dept

940-565-4563

kayla.spears@unt.edu

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Depending upon when it is, if they need designs I can do some. If anyone gets approval to do this and needs art help, let me know. June and July are pretty busy so I'll need to know in advance in order to work it into my schedule if it needs to be done then. Of course, right now I have very little going on, so if it gets rolling really soon....

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Occasionally these grass roots efforts take off. Usually they don't, but sometimes...

I think the thing is, you can bring up as many ideas on here as you want, but the AD isn't going to make a move based on the musings of a few message board denizens. Rather, you've got to take whatever idea, and move on it yourself.

Surely that last statement will invite the "Fire RV And roast him on a spiked spit!" type remarks, but honestly if I were him, I don't think I'd be taking my marketing advice from here either.

Bottom line, come up with it, and make it happen. Don't rely on others to do it for you -- kinda like how most of us prefer to conduct every other aspect of our lives, right?

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I would like to know who he is taking his marketing advice from because of many given reasons. He can fire whatever marketing consultant/firm (if one even exists) that they pay and come on here and get ideas that are free and some are pretty top notch. All he has to do is swallow his ego and run with some of these ideas. T-shirts/rubber bracelets are relatively inexpensive and college aged kids love both. Stickers that read "beat X team" is good practice and is currently in use, but expand on that and make it that much more creative. This could also, believe it or not, create a little throw around money for the athletic department.

On a side note.... the "party area" underneath the wing during the game and pre-game/post-game is still golden in my book. Anything to raise interest, anything.

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On a side note.... the "party area" underneath the wing during the game and pre-game/post-game is still golden in my book. Anything to raise interest, anything.

I really, really like the idea, but between Metzler's (who runs beer concessions at Apogee), Denton PD, TABC, UNT Athletics, and whatever other bureaucratic entity you'd like to consider, it would be a monumental task to make happen.

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Those are just excuses as far as I'm concerned. It doesn't need to be a Panama City Spring Break mantra down there, but something to get the juices flowing and create an atmosphere that sport fans and non-sport fans alike would enjoy. Bring in some "feel sorry for myself" musicians that I know that Denton community and UNT students both like and let them jam out in their sorrows and offer up some kind of dollar off beer area like The Pit already does. Close the area down after the first quarter so Apogee doesn't completely get turned into a concert rather than a football game. It's a good idea that would create a good atmosphere. It's not that difficult. It would take a little leg work and there is plenty of time to make this happen, but I would hate to ask people to have to do their job.

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OR let's take a different approach, a non-UNT approach, and expect people to do their jobs adequately.

Unless and until there's a way to force accountability, that won't happen. However, do their job for them - and do it better than them - and it shames people into doing better. It's happened quite a few times before. Some of us have been involved in various versions of this and when you want to get them to do something they don't want to do, it's just about the only way to make it happen.

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