Report: C-USA won't keep UAB without football

StealthEagle84 · April 30, 2015

Harry · April 30, 2015

Nice find! +1

http://mweb.cbssports.com/ncaaf/writer/jon-solomon/25167509/sources-c-usa-wont-change-bylaws-to-keep-uab-without-football

NM Green · May 1, 2015

I think that is fair. I am curious about who is lobbying hard behind the scenes to get in.

GMG

Texas Stranger · May 1, 2015

I think that is fair. I am curious about who is lobbying hard behind the scenes to get in.
GMG

Every team in the Sun Belt.

oldguystudent · May 1, 2015

Karl Benson will get to add another non-football program to his long legacy of systematically destroying football conferences.

StealthEagle84 · May 1, 2015

"UAB and Southern Mississippi are the only remaining C-USA charter members that have never left."

I wonder how this leaves Southern Miss feeling? They always wanted to "take it to the next level". I guess having winning seasons 14 years in a row and going bowling 10 out of 11 seasons gets you fired there (Jeff Bowers). Meanwhile, the rest of Conference USA, past and present, has passed them by. But its crazy to think there will only be one remaining charter member left.

Mean Green 93-98 · May 1, 2015

"UAB and Southern Mississippi are the only remaining C-USA charter members that have never left."

I wonder how this leaves Southern Miss feeling? They always wanted to "take it to the next level". I guess having winning seasons 14 years in a row and going bowling 10 out of 11 seasons gets you fired there (Jeff Bowers). Meanwhile, the rest of Conference USA, past and present, has passed them by. But its crazy to think there will only be one remaining charter member left.

Charlotte is also a charter member; they just haven't been continuous. And I'd have a hard time saying that the present members of C-USA have all passed USM by.

MDH · May 1, 2015

I'm sure we'll take ULL. I'd probably rather have JMU.

Travis · May 1, 2015

I think we should go ahead and let aTm or LSU in. They have been knocking on our door for quite a while.

NTXCoog · May 1, 2015

UAB wasn't a charter member for football though. That came later.

forevereagle · May 1, 2015

I'm sure we'll take ULL. I'd probably rather have JMU.

No to JMU. We have enough move ups and enough teams in the east.

StealthEagle84 · May 1, 2015

Given that USM has won 4 games and finished dead last in C-USA the last two seasons, I would say that current members have passed them by, at least temporarily. If ULL ends up joining, I'm assuming they slide into the west division with us, Rice, UTEP, UTSA, LaTech, & Southern Miss?

Mean Green 93-98 · May 1, 2015

Given that USM has won 4 games and finished dead last in C-USA the last two seasons, I would say that current members have passed them by, at least temporarily.

Would you say UAB has passed them by? Charlotte?

FIU and UTEP were both equally bad last year, so "dead last" only works if you include ties in that.

Considering USM beat us in football this year, I'd have a tough time saying we passed them by.

They're solid in baseball and women's hoops. How have we done in those sports this year?

Not to mention, they had one of the better men's hoops teams in the conference last year. This year was tough for them, but I generally see "passing someone by" as more than a one-year event.

untjim1995 · May 1, 2015

Actually, I'd take three tams from the SBC to replace UAB: Arkansas State, ULL, and Georgia Southern. I would then see how that goes from a competitive standpoint. The East would have ODU, Marshall, WKU, MUTS, FIU, FAU, Charlotte, and Ga Southern. The west woul be UNT, Arky State, La Tech, ULL, USM, Rice, UTEP, and UTSA. Play seven division games, two non-division games, and then three OOC games.

Ben Gooding · May 1, 2015

I'm sure we'll take ULL. I'd probably rather have JMU.

uhhhh...no. ULL has a proven football and baseball programs. To want JMU over ULL is asinine.

foutsrouts · May 1, 2015

"UAB and Southern Mississippi are the only remaining C-USA charter members that have never left."

I wonder how this leaves Southern Miss feeling? They always wanted to "take it to the next level". I guess having winning seasons 14 years in a row and going bowling 10 out of 11 seasons gets you fired there (Jeff Bowers). Meanwhile, the rest of Conference USA, past and present, has passed them by. But its crazy to think there will only be one remaining charter member left.

Almost makes me feel like we're the bad smell in the room, but of course I'm only joking.

MeanGreenTexan · May 1, 2015

Any of you who are calmoring for old SBC friends: I bet you don't take many chances in life,huh?

Any SBC school is already in the pocket of C-USA. We need only extend an offer.

IF C-USA is to expand, why not try other schools first before settling on what we already have in our pockets?

untjim1995 · May 1, 2015

Any of you who are calmoring for old SBC friends: I bet you don't take many chances in life,huh?
Any SBC school is already in the pocket of C-USA. We need only extend an offer.

IF C-USA is to expand, why not try other schools first before settling on what we already have in our pockets?

Name one who you could get to change and take on the additional travel costs? Its not NIU or Ohio, I can tell you that. It isn't any AAC team. The list of replacements is only SBC teams...

oldguystudent · May 1, 2015

before settling on what we already have in our pockets?

Sadly, that's been about my only option for the past seven or eight years.

greenit · May 1, 2015

Offer Houston a Boise type deal.

MeanGreenTexan · May 1, 2015

Name one who you could get to change and take on the additional travel costs? Its not NIU or Ohio, I can tell you that. It isn't any AAC team. The list of replacements is only SBC teams...

Why would any team in Ohio balk? WKU, MT, Marshall are all just as close as many of their current conference mates. NIU's travel costs would not be much different than they are now simply because they can fly out of OHare to other major airports in C-USA West.

There's Army. Re-approach any of the former C-USA teams who left for the AAC. New Mexico, COSt, some other MWC team may want to move away from the West Coast? Worst they can say is no.

Again, IF C-USA is to expand, exhaust your resources. Put in some effort. Don't just hit your SBC speed-dial and take candy from a baby.

Edited May 1, 2015 by MeanGreenTexan

Cerebus · May 1, 2015

1) The playoff payout is per team but capped at 12 teams. Every G5 league gets a (small) percentage of the playoff money based on performance vs other G5 leagues. CUSA got the highest payout last year, adding more than 12 members just cuts the pie for everyone.

2) It's going to be ULL.

ColoradoEagle · May 1, 2015

I really like the idea of going hard after NIU. Wish we could drop FIU.

untjim1995 · May 1, 2015

Those MAC schools really like their tight knit league and their rivalries within that league. Except for Buffalo and UMass, the remiander of the league is a nice Midwestern base league. To be honest, the SBCUSAAC could really have learned from the MACs success for cost containment and geographic rivalries that are easy to get to for games.

MeanGreenTexan · May 1, 2015

Those MAC schools really like their tight knit league and their rivalries within that league. Except for Buffalo and UMass, the remiander of the league is a nice Midwestern base league. To be honest, the SBCUSAAC could really have learned from the MACs success for cost containment and geographic rivalries that are easy to get to for games.

That makes sense if the conference courting you can't money-whip you, or otherwise make it worth your while to leave.

Many here are anti-MWC, but if UNT were offered, and the deal provided a nice bump in money, who would say 'no'? I'm not keen on the MAC's TV deal & other income sources, but I can't see it being bigger than C-USA's.

Money talks, my friend.