Study concludes UAB football made money

BillySee58 · April 23, 2015

https://twitter.com/cfbheather/status/591277383598153728

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/12748159/uab-blazers-dropped-financial-reasons-made-money-study-finds

Edited April 23, 2015 by BillySee58

Ben Gooding · April 23, 2015

No one is surprised by this. This is all UA trying to manipulate the state. They'd do the same thing to AU if they could, in a heartbeat. I hope nothing but bad things to happen to that athletic department and university.

Aldo · April 23, 2015

MeanGreenTexan · April 23, 2015

https://twitter.com/cfbheather/status/591277383598153728
http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/12748159/uab-blazers-dropped-financial-reasons-made-money-study-finds

That's awful. So sad for UAB.

meangreendork · April 23, 2015

Makes you wonder if UA would prefer to just shutter UAB as a whole. That whole UA supremacy thing is fandom gone too far, I think.

Rudy · April 23, 2015

They'd absolutely prefer UAB to shut down. This is just more proof that it was all a power grab. Eff em.

TheWestie · April 23, 2015

No one is surprised by this. This is all UA trying to manipulate the state. They'd do the same thing to AU if they could, in a heartbeat. I hope nothing but bad things to happen to that athletic department and university.

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UNT90 · April 23, 2015

More ammunition for a class action anti-trust lawsuit by the G5s against the NCAA and P5 conferences.

Too bad they, and we, would rather just keep whoring ourselves for the crumbs they throw us.

NorthTexan95 · April 23, 2015

I don't think UA wants to shut down UAB, they just want it to only be the medical school for UA.

Cerebus · April 23, 2015

What's UAB supposed to do about this? ~~Deebo~~ UA already came and took their chain away!

foutsrouts · April 23, 2015

The "big boys" did something similar to us when they sent us packing to 1AA. It has been around 20 years now, and many would say that we still haven't recovered from it.

MDH · April 23, 2015

You can massage numbers any way you'd like.

"Instead, after making the sort of adjustments suggested by the economics literature, we conclude that the three sports were effectively break-even to slightly positive."

Edited April 23, 2015 by MDH

DeepGreen · April 23, 2015

The "big boys" did something similar to us when they sent us packing to 1AA. It has been around 20 years now, and many would say that we still haven't recovered from it.

I think UNT sent themselves packing to 1AA. The only thing holding us back was increasing the capacity of Fouts to 30K (like the addition of aluminum seats in 1994). I believe that was the NCAA's only requirement to stay in 1A. Probably would have been half the cost back then. Someone correct my if I'm wrong.

foutsrouts · April 23, 2015

I think UNT sent themselves packing to 1AA. The only thing holding us back was increasing the capacity of Fouts to 30K (like the addition of aluminum seats in 1994). I believe that was the NCAA's only requirement to stay in 1A. Probably would have been half the cost back then. Someone correct my if I'm wrong.

Well, the big boys did kind of set the upgraded standards in an attempt to rid themselves of undesirables, but it was certainly nobodies fault but ours for not fighting back and meeting those standards. Southwestern Louisiana managed to meet them and so should have we. Weren't there also Title IX, upgraded scheduling, and attendance issues involved? Regardless, nothing that couldn't have been overcome had the powers that be really given a damn.

wardly · April 23, 2015

I have slept since then, but I think there was an attendance requirement.In addition, I don't know what conference options at the 1A level were available to us. Also, an alumni donated 1$million for the 10,000 aluminum seats that never felt a butt.

Rudy · April 24, 2015

Makes me wonder the real reason UTA couldn't bring football back a few years ago.

GrandGreen · April 24, 2015

Surprise, pro football group pays for study and they deliver. IMO, it would take lots of spin to show that UAB and most other football programs actually make money.

BeliefBlazer · April 24, 2015

Most of the study was funded by the University itself since they originally commissioned it. They only fired OSKR after it became clear they wouldn't like the results.

NCAA accounting charges the athletic department for full cost of tuition, books, room & board... even though the true costs to the University are less than 45% what students are charged. The NCAA also counts students fees given to athletics as a loss, even though the money doesn't come directly from the school's bottom line. OSKR simply believes the current NCAA accounting method is flawed when trying to determine a program's true value to a University.

Harry · April 24, 2015

Most of the study was funded by the University itself since they originally commissioned it. They only fired OSKR after it became clear they wouldn't like the results.

NCAA accounting charges the athletic department for full cost of tuition, books, room & board... even though the true costs to the University are less than 45% what students are charged. The NCAA also counts students fees given to athletics as a loss, even though the money doesn't come directly from the school's bottom line. OSKR simply believes the current NCAA accounting method is flawed when trying to determine a program's true value to a University.

Thanks for the clarification and I wish you guys well. Here's my question, has a program ever been completely shut down like this and been revived within the next year? And at what cost? It seems like the UAT BOR has wanted to shut it down all along and now has their wish. It would seem very costly and time consuming to try and do this in such a short time frame.

Here's the good news. UAT has been incredibly exposed through this fiasco. I've read they are spending billions on fraternity houses etc while UAB gets the scraps. Yet despite all of this money, UAT statistically lags behind other flagships in terms of research dollars and academic prestige. It's not right and now that it has been exposed I hope that we will see some justice.

BeliefBlazer · April 24, 2015

I'm not hopeful that football can return with Watts as President and Bryant Jr in control of the Board. I expect after the school's new firm issues its report, UAB will demand an unobtainable amount of money from boosters if football is to return.

Mean Green 93-98 · April 24, 2015

I'm not hopeful that football can return with Watts as President and Bryant Jr in control of the Board. I expect after the school's new firm issues its report, UAB will demand an unobtainable amount of money from boosters if football is to return.

DallasGreen · April 24, 2015

More ammunition for a class action anti-trust lawsuit by the G5s against the NCAA and P5 conferences.
Too bad they, and we, would rather just keep whoring ourselves for the crumbs they throw us.

Best idea ever by 90! Why do the G5 standby and watch what is blatant violation of anti- trust laws. Only reason for P5 formation was to create a monopoly and sweeten it with a made for TV pseudo " National Championship" that is truthfully just BCS reincarnated. In a true national championship such as the NCAA BB tourney, how many times have the final four been the #1 seeds picked at the beginning? P5 will eventually devour itself by having the conference bottom rung in football decide it is time to quit throwing $$$$$$ into an abyss that they have no chance in Hades of ever being in the " national championship". Still can't figure what the Big 12-2 and ACC are trying to pull off as it is sooooo obvious that TV wants conference championship games not a round robin.

Ben Gooding · April 24, 2015

The G5 has to start punching back. They have to. Collectively, they have power and they have to at least try to get in the ring with the P5. There is 0 backlash, it's really kind of sad to watch the P5 just monopolize themselves over and over and over while nothing is done.

SilverEagle · April 24, 2015

I think UNT sent themselves packing to 1AA. The only thing holding us back was increasing the capacity of Fouts to 30K (like the addition of aluminum seats in 1994). I believe that was the NCAA's only requirement to stay in 1A. Probably would have been half the cost back then. Someone correct my if I'm wrong.

We could have used one of our in-house attorneys to file a law suit against the NCAA claiming arbitrary and unfair rule changes that targeted schools not in a conference. Throw a bunch of interrogatories at them, and ask the court to grant a temporary restraining order against them. This would have stalled them long enough for us to figure out how best to meet the standards.

But then, this is the same administration that would not take the risk of guaranteeing 10K ticket sales for our first 1-AA playoff game against Nevada Reno, so we had to go up and play Nevada in the snow and slush.