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If you want a good coach at UNT you need to do more than just look at their résumé and experience. We aren't able to make hires like Kentucky getting a guy like Calipari.

Lets not fool ourselves into thinking we hired away an up-and-coming ACC coach to come to UNT. Our job was not a step up, and there's usually a reason coaches make a lateral or worse move, and it's job security. Peterson wasn't a bad hire, certainly did not seem like he'd do this bad, but he was always a very conservative hire with a very limited ceiling.

As for inexperienced coaches, you can't judge your opinion on a new hire based on whether or not that coach has previous head coaching or D1 head coaching experience. We need our AD to be able to recognize which coach has what it takes to be successful and which résumés will translate, not just what résumé looks the best at first glance.

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Why do people insist on using such flawed logic??? Just because he does well somewhere else doesn't mean he will do well here. Is his success at other schools an indicator he might do well here? Yes but by no means is it a sure thing. Until he coaches here and deals with the circumstances he is dealt with here will anyone ever really know whether he's a success here. Until he coaches here he is really nothing more then a paper dragon.

It happens all the time where someone is hired with good credentials/references for a job and it just doesn't work out.

"He won there and is now winning elsewhere" is flawed logic to "he was a better option than a guy that didn't succeed at his two previous jobs"?

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UNTFan23 Community Regular

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Just because he won there and is now winning elsewhere is flawed logic that he was a better option than a guy that didn't succeed at his two previous jobs?

Rick

In hindsight perhaps but there really is no way to know.

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greenit Newbie

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I understand buddy. Just killing time argueing with ya. No biggie.

BTW, In 7 years at WF Petersen was 32-82 in conference.

Rick

Did you just research a topic and provide an opinion supported by facts?

What the F is going on around here?

Stop wasting your time. Get your pitchfork, torch, and a 12 pack of Natty light and meet at 90's truck in the Sack N Save parking lot tonight at midnight. We're TP'ing RV's house.

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Did you just research a topic and provide an opinion supported by facts?

What the F is going on around here?

Stop wasting your time. Get your pitchfork, torch, and a 12 pack of Natty light and meet at 90's truck in the Sack N Save parking lot tonight at midnight. We're TP'ing RV's house.

So you like my candidate for coach?

Rick

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Rudy Grand Master

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The way hires always seem to work as follows:

1. Fans put together their list of prospects and post it on their favorite fan message board

2. AD puts his/her list of prospects

3. Interviews begin

3b. Rumors start to fly as to who is/is not getting interviewed

4. Fans become angry when some of their people aren't the ones getting interviewed

5. Coach is hired

5b. Some fans are hurt that their guy/girl didn't get the job and want to rake the AD of the coals because they feel their coach should have gotten at least an interview

6. Profit

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Mitchell has been an assistant under Karen Aston for four years now. I would hope if she is interested she would at least get an interview. Just because she is young doesn't mean she can't coach.

The guy at SFA also seems like a very good choice. If we do end up with a prior head coach with a mediocre career record my head just might explode.

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So you like my candidate for coach?

Rick

Sure. I like to hear about any candidates that are realistic, have some sort of tie to the area or UNT, have a solid track record of winning as head coaches wherever they have been and are somewhat on the rise. If we keep filling the candidate pool with those types, eventually one of them is going to hit.

I am not opposed to looking through the ranks of lower tier conferences or divisions and finding people that seem to just know how to win. Sometimes taking a step up to a higher level doesn't work for them, but only one way to find out. Looking to coaches that have a proven record of mediocrity is not appealing. With that said, I was not opposed to the hiring of Coach Petersen, but it clearly did not work out here.

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Mitchell has been an assistant under Karen Aston for four years now. I would hope if she is interested she would at least get an interview. Just because she is young doesn't mean she can't coach.

The guy at SFA also seems like a very good choice. If we do end up with a prior head coach with a mediocre career record my head just might explode.

Even if you don't hire her, the right thing to do for alumni in the profession is to give them the opportunity to interview and give them experience going through the process. Especially some of our brightest stars/alumni.

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Mark Kellogg?

Dallas native, currently having some success with WTA&M. Should also have relationships in the Canyon area.

Mark Kellogg---Age 37

http://www.gobuffsgo.com/coaches.aspx?rc=583

Is 220-62 in 9 seasons as a head coach.

Went 173-46 as head coach at DIII Fort Lewis College.

Lost a heartbreaker in the National Championship game in 2010.

Turned a 6-22 Northwest Missouri State team into a 15-13 winner in his one and only season there prior to going to WT.

Is currently 82-17 in three seasons at WT

His second year at WT went 32-3 and a berth in the DII National Championship in 2013.

Is currently 28-2 on the season.

WT just won their second straight Lone Star Conference Championship, and won the first game of the NCAA Regional Quarterfinal yesterday by smacking around Cameron 81-60.

Plays Arkansa-Fort Smith tonight in the Regional Quarterfinal Championship tonight at 7:30.

I'll extend this guy my reverse psychology rant as well.

NOT IN A MILLION YEARS WOULD WE EVER HIRE THIS GUY. NO EFFIN WAY!!!!

Rick

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Noel Johnson...current HC Midwestern... Former UNT ass't coach... Played under Sharpe at TTech..turned the MW program into a winner.

Worth a look-see I would think.

And she makes under $60k where she is now. We could conceivably sign her to a favorable deal and not be stuck in a bad buyout situation if things didn't work out.

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