BYU to P5

UNTexas · February 25, 2015

I know there was a discussion recently about BYU joining the Big 12 recently on GMG. Interesting link:

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/blogs/ncaaf-dr-saturday/byu-ad--school-s-intends-to-play-in-power-5-conference-in--near-future-133956569.html

Edited February 25, 2015 by UNTexas

NorthTexan95 · February 25, 2015

Big 12 is probably the best place for them.

Harry · February 25, 2015

It's hurting them not being in a conference. The issue now is that the Iowa States and Kansas's of the Big 12 want no part of BYU. They don't want to split up the money and they don't want to get another loss every year. It will be interesting. My guess is Texas, OU and the like want to go to 12 as it gives them a better shot at landing a playoff spot... BYU makes sense but who would you add for the 12th team? There just isn't another good addition in my book...maybe Louisville?

Ben Gooding · February 25, 2015

Uhhh duh...UNT!

ColoradoEagle · February 25, 2015

The Big 12 may be having an up year in basketball, but there's no chance they steal Louisville away from a basketball powerhouse conference. Their most likely target, other than BYU, would be Cincinatti. UCF or UConn as longshots.

Dr. Seuss · February 25, 2015

I can see Cincy going to the Big 12.

The Big 12 may be having an up year in basketball, but there's no chance they steal Louisville away from a basketball powerhouse conference. Their most likely target, other than BYU, would be Cincinatti. UCF or UConn as longshots.

Big 12 basketball is really good this year.

CMJ · February 26, 2015

I can see Cincy going to the Big 12.

Big 12 basketball is really good this year.

They are. But the ACC is a basketball conference first and foremost.

NM Green · February 26, 2015

Exactly. You don't leave duke wake North Carolina and now Virginia to play Kansas and iowa state which are the powers of the 12. Especially when you are a basketball school first.

GMG

Eagle1855 · February 26, 2015

I actually preferred the 10-team conference setup where everyone plays everyone, but that's a thing of the past. The Big XII needs 12 members + a championship game. BYU and Cincy are the best remaining options. BYU isn't going to find a better situation than the Big XII and Cincy should make WVU happy.

I can't see a situation where the Big XII adds an upstart Florida program. If they can't get a Florida State or Miami, I'd guess they stay out of there altogether -- else you risk diluting the brand.

UConn is intriguing. Not something I'd ever thought of.

buff64 · February 26, 2015

Boise State , would be a natural with BYU.

VideoEagle · February 26, 2015

The Big XII is still working toward having a championship game with just 10 teams. It is in the interest of the other P5 schools to allow this rather than expand the base of P5 schools. They want to limit the possibilities, not expand them to additional schools.

untjim1995 · February 26, 2015

To me, Texas will get BYU into the league eventually, basically when the need for a 12 or more team conference outweighs the money that 10 teams currently split. I still believe that the big 12s best chance at long-term survival is to expand into a larger geographic conference with big G5 names. Get BYU and Boise State out west, add Cincy and Memphis in the midwest, then add UCF and USF in the southeast. That gets you to 16, with added TV markets of Tampa, Orlando, Memphis, and Cincy, plus Boise State out west is huge right now, and BYU is a national brand.

It could look like this Boise State, Tech, KSU, OU, OSU, West Virginia, Memphis, and UCF in one division with BYU, Texas, ISU, KU, Cincy, UCF, Baylor, and TCU in the other. Set up automatic annual rivalries from the opposite division every year, so it would look like Texas-OU, KU-KSU, WVU-Cincy, UCF-USF, BYU-Boise State, Tech-Baylor, Memphis-TCU, and ISU-OSU in both main sports.

UNT90 · February 26, 2015

The Big XII is still working toward having a championship game with just 10 teams. It is in the interest of the other P5 schools to allow this rather than expand the base of P5 schools. They want to limit the possibilities, not expand them to additional schools.

Not that they want to use unfair business tactics to eliminate competition or anything...

#antitrustlawsuit

untjim1995 · February 26, 2015

The Big XII is still working toward having a championship game with just 10 teams. It is in the interest of the other P5 schools to allow this rather than expand the base of P5 schools. They want to limit the possibilities, not expand them to additional schools.

I disagree--the other P5 leagues love that the Big 12 is being marginalized on two fronts--that they don't have a conference champion and that the best schools in the league aren't Texas or OU right now. The other leagues are just fine, knowing that a Big XII champion is really easy to get left out in the playoff system.

Ben Gooding · February 26, 2015

To me, Texas will get BYU into the league eventually, basically when the need for a 12 or more team conference outweighs the money that 10 teams currently split. I still believe that the big 12s best chance at long-term survival is to expand into a larger geographic conference with big G5 names. Get BYU and Boise State out west, add Cincy and Memphis in the midwest, then add UCF and USF in the southeast. That gets you to 16, with added TV markets of Tampa, Orlando, Memphis, and Cincy, plus Boise State out west is huge right now, and BYU is a national brand.

It could look like this Boise State, Tech, KSU, OU, OSU, West Virginia, Memphis, and UCF in one division with BYU, Texas, ISU, KU, Cincy, UCF, Baylor, and TCU in the other. Set up automatic annual rivalries from the opposite division every year, so it would look like Texas-OU, KU-KSU, WVU-Cincy, UCF-USF, BYU-Boise State, Tech-Baylor, Memphis-TCU, and ISU-OSU in both main sports.

Simply no bc UNT isn't in your scenario.

wardly · February 26, 2015

The Big 12 has been told that their present T.V. contract is carved in stone no matter how many members they have way . No way existing schools splits conference money 12 instead of 10 ways.It is, however, the only P5 conference that would let BYU keep its network ,which is a smaller version of the Longhorn channel. Even if BYU was considered for Big 12, there is not another school with a large enough market to partner them with.Bottom line: No reason to expand. They shot themselves in foot by not giving Baylor the title after they beat TCU. Head to head should meet more that just another conference won or loss when the championship is at stake.This from a conference whose tag line is "one true winner."