MGB: UNT's future nonconference opponents

UNT90 · February 12, 2015

Maybe if we beat Liberty and ACU we can petition for a waiver to get into the FCS playoffs...

TheTastyGreek · February 12, 2015

Out of curiosity, what are Baylor, Notre Dame, and most of the Big East chuch schools' thoughts on this subject? TCU and SMU for that matter.

Baylor, I know from my wife's undergrad education, has a class in either religious history or biblical history that's either universal mandatory or mandatory for most courses of study. One of the first class periods involves the professor discussing inconsistencies between Genesis 1 and Genesis 2, then stopping class early in case the thought that the Bible might not be literal truth is devastating to students in the course.

Apparently, one or two Baylor kids per course will come from upbringings that are seriously challenged by the notion. For the most part, the only real complications come during summer sessions, when students from other schools (she specifically mentioned ORU) with a stricter creationist doctrine are taking classes at Baylor.

GangGreen · February 12, 2015

I think it is pretty funny that the mascot of a Christian school is the flamers.

letsgiveacheer · February 12, 2015

Maybe if we beat Liberty and ACU we can petition for a waiver to get into the FCS playoffs...

Not so fast, my friend. We'll have to get by Incarnate Word first.

Cerebus · February 12, 2015

There is no denying that theories of origins are a big point of contention for many. We use the same textbooks you guys use but view it from a different worldview. Outside of origins, which is a tiny slice of the educational experience, you wouldn't be able to distinguish any of our science classes from anybody else's.

I'm sorry but you can't compartmentalize this away. This seems to be a clear case of "if faith and science disagree, we have decided faith triumphs." If the theological leadership can decide that for this, they can do it for the entirety of the scientific method if they so choose.

Lack of a PhD is an enormous concern for academia. Sure fans on a message board or even staff at in the athletic department may not care, but the process and experience of original research and and peer reviewed publication is considered to be the seminal event for faculty and leadership at universities.

You didn't address lack of tenure. That is also incredibly important because it shields the faculty from non academic influence, including theological leadership. Which is no doubt why Liberty has chosen this route.

Cerebus · February 12, 2015

Out of curiosity, what are Baylor, Notre Dame, and most of the Big East chuch schools' thoughts on this subject? TCU and SMU for that matter.

The teaching of creationist courses isn't the issue. I am sure you can take a religious studies course at NT that will do the same, it may even be taught by someone who believes in creationism and not evolution.

The problem is that a non academic leadership then hires, influences and censures leadership and "faculty" in the biology department to teach creationism.

The problem is also that a lack of tenure means the "faculty" can not stand up to this influence since they are at will hires.

Those problems would be a huge barrier, one I don't think could be overcome, when it comes to the NT president voting yes on membership for Liberty... and can you imagine the reaction at Rice?

Censored by Laurie · February 12, 2015

The Army series should never have been penned.
It needs to go.

until UMASS is a conference foe, you shut your dirty face.

Censored by Laurie · February 12, 2015

until UMASS is a conference foe, you shut your dirty face.

actually, screw that...even once UMASS is a conference member that Army series needs to stay. any excuse to get into the Hudson Valley

Eagle1855 · February 12, 2015

Laugh all you want but at least their students are ready.

That's one of the better ads I've ever seen for a church.

ColoradoEagle · February 12, 2015

That's one of the better ads I've ever seen for a church.

Good, but she needs to step her game up to match the all time best.

MeanGreenTexan · February 12, 2015

Good, but she needs to step her game up to match the all time best.

This has to be a bit, right?

ColoradoEagle · February 12, 2015

Yeah, it's definitely fake.

MeanGreenHoops · February 12, 2015

The Army series should never have been penned.
It needs to go.

You must have never been to a game at West Point. Favorite road game by a long shot.

Huff · February 12, 2015

I agree with MeanGreenHoops about it being a great trip. They do not have tours of the campus on football game days but if you go a day early or stay a day late it is well worth your time and money to do it.