Has UNT held you back personally?

the green rokemi · January 5, 2015

My degree has never held me back. It says "bachelor of science". That's it, doesn't say in what so I just make it up for whatever job I apply for. Thank you UNT!

Edited January 5, 2015 by the green rokemi

UNTDoubleAlum · January 5, 2015

I've never felt like UNT has held me back. If anything, those in my field (Emergency Management) have a pretty high perception of UNT's EADP program.

I do have two small points of contention.

1. I wish we had a more excitable Alumni base. As an Alum, I get real excited when I run into people from UNT, or those rare occasions where I find someone else with a UNT bumper sticker. However, I feel like a decent percentage of our Alums don't feel this way. Lots of people with UNT degrees seem to be apathetic or worse about the institution.

2. I wish the state wasn't so high on UT and A&M. As I'm sure plenty of you are aware, we get Texas Monthly with our Alumni Association membership, and whenever I read anything about higher education I feel like the state is just constantly giving the UT and A&M systems too much love at the expense of anyone else. And this is coming from a guy who had an advanced degree from A&M.

drex · January 5, 2015

Never heard of the art design dept. at North Texas, but we do have a renowned Advertising Art program. I got a job mid semester of my last semester at NorthTexas. I have been lucky and have never had to apply for a job my whole career--thanks North Texas.

Coffee and TV · January 5, 2015

I've never felt like UNT has held me back. If anything, those in my field (Emergency Management) have a pretty high perception of UNT's EADP program.

My biggest problem with my EADP degree has been getting my foot in the door. This area is so saturated with UNT EADP grads that the entry-level jobs for those fresh out of college are impossible to find. Every single entry-level position I looked at and/or applied when I graduated wanted 3-5 years experience along with the degree. At the time (and still now but less so) I couldn't really leave the metroplex to take a chance in North Carolina or Oregon or where ever just so I could get that experience. It's incredibly frustrating and an issues I've also heard some of my other fellow grads encounter. Another poster on this board that I interned with caught a job in Austin, but it was 5 years before he could get back in the area. Also that's 5 years experience he automatically has over me if we were to compete for the same position.

Edited January 5, 2015 by Coffee and TV

Coffee and TV · January 5, 2015

Do you not realize that posting crap like this contributes to the killing of innocent sports fans?

RIP Bama t-shirt fans.

Greendylan · January 5, 2015

Athletic failures haven't necessarily hurt my degrees from UNT. They haven't helped either. I've made this point during the offseason before, and I guess I'll make it one more time. Check out the list of 30,000+ enrollment state universities that play FBS football and tell me how many of them have athletic programs that are inferior to ours. We are unquestionably in the bottom 10%. Now, of the upper 90%, I sure can't find too many of those that have a lower academic ranking than us. There is an obvious correlation between athletics and academics when you're discussing schools that fit our overall profile.

The truth of the matter is that large state universities simply don't suck at anything they do. We are embarrassingly one of the very few exceptions. It just so happens that we suck at perhaps the least important but most visible of university endeavors. Our academics are fine, but they aren't strong enough across the board to overcome the perception hurdle that athletics throws out there year after year. Whether it's fair or not, athletic ineffectiveness/insolvency is indicative to the general public of further institutional frailties within a university.

Ben Gooding · January 5, 2015

I tried to say this awhile back and was told by many here that it is irrelevant. Fact of the matter is that there is nothing more important than athletics when trying to create a perception for a university. It must change.

TheTastyGreek · January 5, 2015

I was a successful young sailing captain, excited to marry my lovely and wealthy fiancee. Unfortunately for me, the wicked and devious cabal of Eric Capper, Gretchen Bataille, and Sujay Lama were conspiring against me!

I spent fourteen hellish years in an island prison... All the while, those three despicable snakes stole my wealth, my good name... Even my beloved wife-to-be. But that most bitter of fuels, vengeance postponed, sustained me through it all, and my plans for justice will soon be sprung!

They will learn, as all should know, that all human wisdom is contained in these two words: Fire and Benford!

jtm0097 · January 6, 2015

My BBA in Finance helped me get hired at a major corporate/investment bank. I was recently promoted to a management position. Now I manage Big 12 graduates. Well other schools too, just wanted to throw that in there.

Edited January 6, 2015 by jtm0097

DeepGreen · January 6, 2015

"A school without football is in danger of deteriorating into a medieval study hall".

Frank Leahy-Notre Dame

Edited January 6, 2015 by DeepGreen

VideoEagle · January 6, 2015

I was a successful young sailing captain, excited to marry my lovely and wealthy fiancee. Unfortunately for me, the wicked and devious cabal of Eric Capper, Gretchen Bataille, and Sujay Lama were conspiring against me!

I spent fourteen hellish years in an island prison... All the while, those three despicable snakes stole my wealth, my good name... Even my beloved wife-to-be. But that most bitter of fuels, vengeance postponed, sustained me through it all, and my plans for justice will soon be sprung!

They will learn, as all should know, that all human wisdom is contained in these two words: Fire and Benford!

Careful! They might presume you to be dead, put you in a body sack and throw you into the fountain in from of the library!

Otherwise, reading this thread I find that I didn't miss anything significant after being out of internet touch for nearly two weeks! How soon to spring training?

Edited January 6, 2015 by VideoEagle

MDH · January 6, 2015

Hasn't held me back, no. Would I have gotten where I am today, at least as fast as I have, without the certifications I did on my own time post-grad? Definitely not. I have seen jobs in private equity that I haven't applied for because they do specifically state the type of school they want to see a degree from. I considered at length busting my ass to try for a top-15 MBA program to get into PE, but I just can't afford the implicit cost for 2 years and doubt that the payback or quality of life afterwards would be worth it.

greenit · January 6, 2015

Not only has my degree helped me, the dismal athletic performance witnessed during my time in school and continued nut kicks while following the program since have prepared me well for the soul crushing agony that is corporate America.

tmjerm · January 6, 2015

Thankful for the spirit of your post oldguy...tired of hearing this negativity. It only holds us back when codger alumni speak poorly of their degrees and teams...2014 sucked but we have an incredible university and are 1 yr 4 days removed from the best day this group has experienced in front of DFW maybe ever. ALWAYS proud to be an Eagle dammit.

Edited January 6, 2015 by tmjerm

UNT90 · January 6, 2015

What is holding us back is an ineffective AD and a UNT administration that doesn't care whether athletics is successful, only that it's cheap.

Us "old codgers" have just been around long enough to understand the real problems.

Texas Stranger · January 6, 2015

Jitter Nolen invited me to the spring formal. I was so happy... But it all turned out to be a big prank at my expense. He and his friends dumped a bucket of pig's blood on my head, and everyone pointed and laughed.

I showed them, though...

You should have known something was up when when 'bucket challenge' had no capital letters

trud1966 · January 6, 2015

Yes...its held me back all the time. I can't take it anymore.. That's why I'm writing while standing on the I-35 pedestrian bridge right now. Goodbye cruel World. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh-I never saw Veniceeeeeee-ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.... Poof.. Dammit, landed on a mattress truck.

TheTastyGreek · January 6, 2015

Lane Rawlins... You all know the man. And most of you know of the indignities he heaped on me, the vile fool. The gravest insult, I can't even bring myself to repeat.

I turned the tables on him during the Homecoming Parade, though... Oh, yes, I did. I lured him down into the catacombs of the Super Pit with the promise of an unopened case of original, Imperial Sugar Dublin Dr. Pepper. And distracted under the spell of his own lustful thirst, I did chain him to the wall, and entombed him there in the long deserted basketball Mean Green Club room.

None have trod there in several years. And Rawlins still rests, chained behind the bricks. In pace requiescat, Lane.

Texas Stranger · January 6, 2015

Lane Rawlins... You all know the man. And most of you know of the indignities he heaped on me, the vile fool. The gravest insult, I can't even bring myself to repeat.

I turned the tables on him during the Homecoming Parade, though... Oh, yes, I did. I lured him down into the catacombs of the Super Pit with the promise of an unopened case of original, Imperial Sugar Dublin Dr. Pepper. And distracted under the spell of his own lustful thirst, I did chain him to the wall, and entombed him there in the long deserted basketball Mean Green Club room.

None have trod there in several years. And Rawlins still rests, chained behind the bricks. In pace requiescat, Lane.

I would have thought you'd have gone with 'Super Pit & The Pendulum" but any Poe is good Poe

Got5onIt · January 6, 2015

Never held me back and has helped me in my career.

Everytime I say I'm going to bandwagon this year, I see a T-Shirt Horn fan that helps me think twice and stay 100% dedicated to the green. I do root for Syracuse just because I did get accepted there right out of high school and had plans to go to NY for school...

Edited January 6, 2015 by Got5onIt

UNT90 · January 6, 2015

Lane Rawlins... You all know the man. And most of you know of the indignities he heaped on me, the vile fool. The gravest insult, I can't even bring myself to repeat.

I turned the tables on him during the Homecoming Parade, though... Oh, yes, I did. I lured him down into the catacombs of the Super Pit with the promise of an unopened case of original, Imperial Sugar Dublin Dr. Pepper. And distracted under the spell of his own lustful thirst, I did chain him to the wall, and entombed him there in the long deserted basketball Mean Green Club room.

None have trod there in several years. And Rawlins still rests, chained behind the bricks. In pace requiescat, Lane.

Which Mean Green room? The regular one or the VVIP one?

There is a population difference of 2, don't ya know.

MeanGreenTexan · January 6, 2015

I shall be telling this with a sigh

Somewhere ages and ages hence;

Two sports diverged in Denton, and I,

I attended the one less destroyed by Benford,

And that has made all the difference.

oldguystudent · January 6, 2015

And the Benford, never flitting, still is sitting, still is sitting

On the pallid bust of Denton just above my chamber door;

And his eyes have all the seeming of a demon’s that is dreaming,

And the lamp-light o’er him streaming throws his shadow on the floor;

And my soul from out that shadow that lies floating on the floor

Shall be lifted—nevermore!

UNTDoubleAlum · January 6, 2015

My biggest problem with my EADP degree has been getting my foot in the door. This area is so saturated with UNT EADP grads that the entry-level jobs for those fresh out of college are impossible to find. Every single entry-level position I looked at and/or applied when I graduated wanted 3-5 years experience along with the degree. At the time (and still now but less so) I couldn't really leave the metroplex to take a chance in North Carolina or Oregon or where ever just so I could get that experience. It's incredibly frustrating and an issues I've also heard some of my other fellow grads encounter. Another poster on this board that I interned with caught a job in Austin, but it was 5 years before he could get back in the area. Also that's 5 years experience he automatically has over me if we were to compete for the same position.

I had exactly this problem, which is why I currently live and work in Amarillo. However, as I'm weeks away from my Master's, about to get my IAEM certification, and with a little bit of experience under my belt, I'm hoping it's easier to find something in the metroplex when I return.

IslandEagle · January 6, 2015

My degree from UNT has never held me back professionally. . Now my long-time obsession with Mean Green sports may have cost me some frustrating days, but like

a true addict, I keep coming back.