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A good fan mentioned this as an idea to combat our issue with getting quality dlinemen. I know that we have formations that look like this in certain situations but what about using it as a base defense?

UNT90 Newbie

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I refer you to several of my posts on linebacker play...

Also, in a 3-4, you need a huge NT. we can't find a 300 pounder to play DT in a 4-3, how we gonna find a 320 pounder to play NG?

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Got5onIt Experienced

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You have to able to find a good NT to run a 3-4. He's got to be able to control both A-gaps and dominate at the point of attack. It's much "easier" to recruit 4-3 DT's. Well, in theory.........

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The Fake Lonnie Finch Newbie

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I posted this last season, regarding problems with:

(1) getting enough talented DTs

(2) getting enough talented defensive players

(3) or, both

Teams used for discussion were BYU, Utah, and Oklahoma. I posted a clip about how BYU overcomes their lack of size and speed with 34/52 scheme (whatever they want to call it).

i also posted OU's switch to it last year, a picture.

I'm too tired to look it all up again. Just wanted to chime in again that, given our circumstances, it wouldn't hurt to try during the offseason.

OU is still running it this year. They aren't great. But, they are terrible either. TCU does 335/425.

Got5onIt Experienced

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I posted this last season, regarding problems with:

(1) getting enough talented DTs

(2) getting enough talented defensive players

(3) or, both

Teams used for discussion were BYU, Utah, and Oklahoma. I posted a clip about how BYU overcomes their lack of size and speed with 34/52 scheme (whatever they want to call it).

i also posted OU's switch to it last year, a picture.

I'm too tired to look it all up again. Just wanted to chime in again that, given our circumstances, it wouldn't hurt to try during the offseason.

OU is still running it this year. They aren't great. But, they are terrible either. TCU does 335/425.

The 335 & 425 doesn't change the DL personnel needed in a 3-4/4-3. It's just adding teh hybrid DB and taking out your traditional LB.

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Cerebus Experienced

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The 335 & 425 doesn't change the DL personnel needed in a 3-4/4-3. It's just adding teh hybrid DB and taking out your traditional LB.

+1

There is no quick fix for getting a quality DT. True NG's are even harder to find. This has been the most disappointing part of Mac's recruiting.

Aldo Rookie

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Assuming we are speaking in all hypotheticals...

What about LBs? I can see moving someone like Polk to OLB, but what about the other OLB? Do we have someone that's good/fast enough for coverage? Who's the other ILB? I haven't seen much love for Wallace around here (been out of town every weekend this month so haven't caught up with my DVR).

DT 90 Newbie

DT 90

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Totally different physical skill sets for DL in 3-4 as opposed to 4-3. 3-4 DEs are huge (6'5" -6'6" JJ Watt types.) and their ILBs need to be around 250-260.

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