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. I did not post anything to argue .... I posted about the 36th division (which had been mentioned and pictured) also being in WWII (mostly Texans) and in France as well ... and got slammed for it and supposedly being off subject. (the topic title was about France) ...

--- I was basically referring to American involvement... True the Middle East aka. Ottoman Empire was a big deal to some countries but I don't remember us being there at all. In WWII we were "everywhere" on the globe which includes north Africa.. . The bombing from Zeppelins in WWI was nothing compared to what happened in WWII.... The air war (Battle of Britain.. knew some that flew in it) or the rockets damage done later by V-I's and V-II's. (Ever been to London..?. damage still exists in places and some building look strange with mismatched brick repair after WWII, been there several times) Faster is relative ... we lost over 10,000 in one day at Gettysburg (almost all Southern.. Pickett's charge alone)... The worst battle ever probably was Stalingrad in WWII... about 1.5 million Russians deaths and about half of that Germans. ... about zero Americans. As for the cemetery mentioned... a lot were illness deaths... not combat.. Also unlike WWII ... the armies did not move much in WWI so were deaths and burials were concentrated close together .. In WWII they usually moved rapidly and many smaller cemeteries existed. . Partly the reason memory of WWI is fading here is that there are no WWI veterans left ... and even most of their children are gone.. Unlike our Civil war, there are no battlefields or WWI cemeteries here either.

---WWII was a much larger war ( plus Americans who were not in WWI very long) and we fought WWII in Pacific as well .... BUT the misery of WWI in trench warfare and with poison gas used seems worse for the individual soldier (more died of illness** than being killed ).. WWII was a war to survive as a country ... not sure you can say that about WWI or any other foreign war we have been involved in.. We were pretty much untouchable in WWI and even Britain was not under direct attack but fought in France ... can't say that about WWII. Pearl Harbor was under attack, our military bases were attacked and captured in Philippines in the first few days (Bataan death march resulted... knew a couple of survivors), ships (100's) were sunk within a few miles of our coast by U-boats (not reported at the time, one was even seen exploding a couple miles from Hilton Head golf course during an event there) and even Japan tried to set fire to Western forests with fire-bomb balloons that caused fires and even some small islands of Alaska was taken by Japan.. (again not really reported) Nothing compares to WWII really... About all we did in WWI was sent troops to fight in France. Not even close to WWII effort or as widespread or in manpower.... As you said soldiers from those non-WWII wars deserve credit also ... it was very bad for them. ** A world wide spread of Spanish flu resulted... killed millions... including my 34 yr.old grandmother who left 4 kids including my mother.. currently Ebola is very scary ...the same could happen.

. The problem is the word "probably"....

.. I have a history text my mother used in the 20's ... they said..... " The Great War"......I have never seen "The World War" used until after WWII. (I have a history minor)... Maybe it was some... don't know. I don't think "the war to end all wars" was really a title but just a comment about it.. I had not noticed the video... will look.. Don't always look at videos or links... Still not sure why you were upset with my WWII 36th Division comments (and in France) ... same group as mentioned and pictured and in France both wars...... it fit the topic title.

. --- I am not ignoring it ...[ WWI not in thread title either ]..... just commenting that the Texas 36th division ( see the picture above ) had a large role in both wars.... I am extremely Texan and proud of our efforts. [ had one older uncle in WWI ] Coming up is Nov. 11th or Veteran's Day ... When I was kid it was called Armistice Day because of WWI ended on Nov. 11 ( or 11-11-1918 ) at 11:11 AM. I remember nearly everyone wearing Poppys on Nov. 11, in the 40's and 50's which was a flower found in Flander's Field ... a site of WWI battles. ...... Unfortunately many do not know anymore why Veterans Day is when it is (Nov.11) . It was renamed sometime after WWII. WWI, or the Great War as WWI was called then before WWII, is the reason that date is used, that connection is not known by most people now.. ..... -- I am not trying to belittle WWI .... [ personally I knew a lot of 36th division vets from WWII and a few from WWI.... I grew up in Brownwood where the WWII 36th trained (Camp Bowie.. larger than Fort Hood then) before going to Europe ] In WWI they trained at a different Camp Bowie near Ft. Worth....that explains Camp Bowie Street. in Ft. Worth.... I don't know how much of that you knew. I am not ignoring anything and know a lot about both wars and knew many people in them ... No WWI vets alive now and not so many from WWII either. -- Totally unrelated but my grandfather and his brother were even selling cattle to the Rough Rider group in San Antonio prior to Spanish American War so those guys ate beef raised by my family... I am very Texan... and the 36th mentioned and pictured above was very Texan as well ... PS: The title of this thread mentions France and you mentioned the 36th ( . which was there both times.. ) .... WWI is not in the title so why the -1 ?? Nothing I said should have insulted or questioned anyone.... ..

36th Division.... known as T-patch division which has a patch with a T inside of an arrowhead..... because it was made up mostly of Texans and Oklahomans .. which was also true in WWII at the beginning. It is now the Texas National guard (or reserve) I believe.... . US highway 36 through Texas honors them with several signs and a monument appears on the state capital grounds and in Brownwood where they trained (at Camp Bowie) in WWII. This unit was also the first American unit to land on European soil in WWII at Salerno, Italy.. near Naples seaport and then move up toward Rome.... They landed in Italy 9 months before D-day or the Normandy invasion...... They later invaded France near Marseilles, France (southern part) . Audie Murphy (Texas kid, that was the most decorated WWII soldier) was in another mostly Texas division that fought near them much of the time. ____ I knew a man whose flyer brother escaped from an Italian POW camp with a buddy... they stole Italian clothes from a clothes line and also a hoe and shovel .... they then walked 100's of miles south acting like farmers working in fields when German convoys came near them.... they lived off of fruit on trees and taking food from cellars... They met the 36th Division coming toward them from the south... and rejoined the fight and flew again.. The man (the brother) I knew was in the 36th Division and also taken prisoner but for only about a month before the war ended. .

CNN report this morning is a bit scary ..... A reporter said her group (3 of them) had very little to no security measures applied to them upon their return from Africa even though they said they told people they had been reporting on Ebola..... that is not what the CDC is claiming has been happening security-wise... .

.. So no one one since 1918 has done worse in point differential .... and their 1916 teams holds the record for all time.... They also hold the record for only team with a death penalty ... for cheating financially.

They have yet to try an extra point....... which brings up a question.....Why was one not attempted after the "Hail Mary" TD in the UNT game?? Part II: .... I enjoyed SMUt scoring a TD against TCU,.... celebrating... and then getting it called back ... that was mean .. love it. They also got a safety called back ... and ended the game with zero. ... hahahaha

..Permission... Really.. ?? Monahans out here uses the term "Mean Green",... and I doubt anyone gave them permission....They aren't Eagles though (Lobos). As for "Eagles" .... that is one of the most used mascots in Texas.... Lions and Bulldogs also appear a lot (top three) and mostly at very old high schools.

SMUt has a great place to watch football... You can sit almost anywhere you want... lots of vacant seats.

SMU was featured three times... as the losing team. .... hahahaha

Apparently our new QB did cut the mustard.... hahaha

. . Those who "slam" France should read it. They don't always do what we want and I am sure we don't always do what they want (Invading Iraq was one of them) ....but they appreciate what we have done for them in the past.. Today's newspaper is reporting they are also bombing ISIS positions in Iraq... A lot of other European countries aren't doing much if anything to help... Also remember our Statue of Liberty was a gift from them about 1876 (100 yrs after our independence)... not anyone else.... They have a smaller version in Paris.

We could schedule a SMUT game on the Sack-n-Save parking lot.. There would be plenty of room for all their fans.

I hope Dajon can cut the mustard. (hahaha)

The passing game can't move the ball. ..... two reasons... receivers often not that open and QB could find or hit them when they were.. If that improves... then the running game would also.

.. More sports ...example baseball..?? .

First half . awful ... did not watch much of second half because of that.... and ..... We were playing LaTech... not Alabama... Surely we could get a few first downs against them. (no insult to them implied)

We lost .... and the passing game looked awful doing it. The WRs (on TV) could seem to get open and when they did the QB could not hit them.

....Another SMUT insult..... hope Aggies get to three digits on them .... and he might reconsider the remark.

yes... it is on mine (West Texas) ..... here it is on Chn. 1643 .. may be the same there ... an upper CBS channel.

. --- From here on (for years) when people hear the name "Penn State" they will think "sexual predators" .....It is much like SMU..... people then think "Cheaters".... at least those of us who have been around a while do..... They have never truly recovered from that.... ---When it is the result of one or two people and didn't go on for years [ UT tower incident ] people don't think much about it .... but both above incidents went on for years .... and involved a lot of people ... plus people in authority. .... people will not forget. --- The Penn State situation is light years past what SMU did ... That was illegal in every US court of law not just sports regulations and very disgusting and harmful to kids. ... Their real disgrace is people in authority ignored it or covered it up... They got off with very light punishment.... especially when comparing it to SMU's punishment ..... and it was their sports department as well.

SMUT is delusional .... Mac Brown is not coming (or any big name coach that enjoys winning) ... they also think they have a premier program ... really???.... where are the fans??? ... I will be very surprised to see them ever be a notable football program again.....