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---Take the flag...but no pole.... you can always have a group hold it by hand.. Getting that inside should not be a problem. Put under shirt if neccessary. ----They may object to the pole because of blocked view of others and/or afraid someone will get "clobbered" by it.

----The pockets it comes from is not tax money.... The extreme high price of tickets at UT and A&M plus the number of people attending games creates a huge pile of money. The same laws apply to all state schools.... that is why we have to raise money to build a stadium and a lot of of the athletic facilities. No doubt some of our/their athletic facilities do qualify as academic structures for PE, dormatory, and other uses but nothing like what you seem to think. I would think that they also rake in a great of money from sales of school clothing and other types of items, a lot of which likely can be legally defered into the athletic budget. That is not tax money and the sales exists largely because of athletics. ---They have no tax money advantages over us... It is not legal. One advantage they have over us is funding from the university lands. The athletic programs take in a forture in TV revenue. I was at UNT just prior the baby boom hitting and the answer the State of Texas came up in 1965 was to rename a lot of campuses as "UT-Whatever" so those schools could pull from that university lands fund. (West-Texas oil fields, where I live) That freed up money from Texas-Western (UTEP) and Arlington-State (UTA) for us and others to use. More colleges have been renamed since. None of that money that money can be used for athletics either. You can bet that what we are getting for TV Sunbelt games doesn't equal what they get for Big-XII games. We are an inexpensive program for ESPN but they can't charge as much for advertising as they could for a UT or OU game. _____________________________ Be thankful we weren't named UT-Denton. It has always been a possibility for funding..

Huh?????? I don't understand that comment.

Great link: (Green 92's: The Handbook of Texas ) ---Like it or not "The College" with the 'State Name' University in every state with very few exceptions is considered the "Name University" of the state [ not in Ohio or Pennsylvania ] . ---I AM A TEXAN from a pioneer Texas family--- I am a North Texas grad and it is my #1 university by far....but I always hope other Texas teams win ( except SMU, with reason, the cheating rats never treat us fairly ) . The only exception can be when a Texas team plays a Sunbelt team which is another group I hope wins. ---I am not jealous of the other Texas colleges, athleticly or academically. We absolutely have our strengths in academics with many better programs than they have. Some people can't separate the two but academics and athletics are two different areas.. [ note Yale and Nebraska ]. Other Texas schools often may have more money available but they "raise" that money, their athletic funds are pretty much donations and they raised it. As long as the State of Texas treats us fairly with tax money, who cares if they are able to raise outside money.... Perhaps we will be one of those in the future. ---Success by any Texas team reflects well on all major universities in Texas (my oppinion) . I be damned if I would support a 'Yankee' Ohio State team over UT, [ as some people here did ] ---- lots of my friends went to UT, A&M, or TTU, not Ohio State. [not every school has the same majors available so UNT was not even an option] I also expect them to support us as well, not Middle Tennessee, Alabama, or someone else. ---I consider us " Texan brothers" ......Brothers fight and compete but are loyal to each other. _________________________ Note: My wife is from Tech, one son is an Aggie (engineering dept) , and my two best life-long friends went to Baylor (Law) and UT. ---I do not support out of state colleges, why would I.????? I have spent lots time and had friends on every one of campuses, never at Ohio State, Eastern Michigan, etc.

---Being a member of the Big-XII helps recruiting......plus some recruits look at Baylor and think they can play almost immediately but would have to wait for years at Texas or A&M.... so they pick Baylor. Some recruits do not really want to go to huge universities such as Texas or A&M either. And some attend Baptist Churches and have heard about them forever, Baptists are the largest religious group in Texas..

---Being a member of the Big-XII helps recruiting......plus some recruits look at Baylor and think they can play almost immediately but would have to wait for years at Texas or A&M.... so they pick Baylor. Some recruits do not really want to go to huge universities such as Texas or A&M either. And some attend Baptist Churches and have heard about them forever.

---I am a North Texas grad (twice) and an obvious fan... BUT I am a Texan as well. I always cheer for teams from Texas (not SMU). I am not jealous of other Texans or threatened by them. I always think that the better other Texas teams look the better we look. I have never understood how Texans can cheer for Nebraska or whoever over a Texas team unless they have some connection to that university. I can't help it if others are too ignorant to realize we are a well recognized major university in many fields. ---Regarding that UNT brag link....there are lots of info left off..... UNT has the largest business school in the state so I read lately. My son from UNT is computer science grad.... UNT was in the first group of colleges in America accredited for computer science. Every school has braggging points but we have more than most. ---In athletics we still struggling for recognition largely because for MANY YEARS we and UTEP were the only major colleges in Texas not in the SWC. It takes time but we are getting there and getting more recognition. One of the most successful people on TV now is Dr. Phil... who has two NT degrees. NT alums has more emmys than other university (includes Juliard) and we are the only University to have received an Emmy nomination ( we have twice). Acounting majors from many colleges in the state come to UNT to take a prep course before taking their state CPA exams... We have a lot to proud of. GMG.!!!

---Ex-Govenor Bill Clements [ first GOP Texas governor in over 100 years ] ought to be made to attend every SMU game. He is the person that was largely responisble for the death penality at SMU by being the chairman of the committee that was funneling money to the SMU players. ---He should be forced to witness first hand what his crooked actions has created. ---Clements is listed on this ESPN site as the fourth biggest-liar of all time behind Pete Rose, Steinbreiner, and Avery Brundage, and before Daniel Almonte's father. http://espn.go.com/page2/s/list/lies.html

---We have been setting them up with the the scores of our two two games. They will overconfident....LOL.

---BRILLIENT !! ---You have had too many Guinesses. --- I am not sure what the answer is but that isn't it. Part of the "problem" is that we are now accustomed to winning a lot and really hate being blown out.

---Head Coach is a strange position acually...... It requires a lot of very different skills to be super succesful..........recruiting, public relations, teaching football skills, motivating, game planning, and the ability to adjust duing a game to exploit what is given to them or stop what is run/thrown at them on defense. The last seems to be the worst of the collection for NT, we don't seem to adjust all that well at times..

----I was't pleased with last week.... but one week is far too early to be ready to crucify the coach or the players and give up on the season. This is a young team and it will likely get better but the penalities need to really be reduced and I hope the passing situation get straighten out. Throwing consisantly on first down (often for a loss) did not make any sense to me especially since we supposedly have a very good running game..... Let us hope it was just a bad day and not reflective of the year. ---Things happen..... ask TCU..... they defeat OU, stop Utah's long win streak, but somehow managed to lose to SMU which has been one of the worst teams around lately... Sic em Green!! PS: I really think Tulsa is a lot better than they have been given credit for....but not as good as we made them look. The last 14 points we gave up were senseless. I am so old I remember Dallas making the Super Bowl (1970) after losing to Minnesota by 52-10 in the regular season of the same year. Goofy things happen.

---I usually get get criticized when I mention Texas State as a possible future SunBelt member. They have about 26,000 students and they just played a very respectable game against a name foe. I hope we do as well.

--- I have complained about last week, especially the penalities and many of the decisions but at this point I wish them luck and hope they do well. Go Mean Green.!

---It is not reasonable to blame the O-line when they are outnumbered. But when that happens it means there have got to be some receivers somewhere that are not covered (at least not very well). THROW quickly but obviously not very deep (takes too much time with linemen outnumbered) and not to the side behind the line of scrimmage (that doesn't back the defense off at all). Once they get burned a few times, they will likely back off. But first you have to have such plays in the play-book available to use. ---If our strength really is the running game we should run the "majority" of the time on first down then once that done then make whatever decision makes sense with the yards remaining as a guide. If they want to stack the line of scrimmage then use those short and quick passes to back them off. For heavens sake, don't repeatedly pass to players behind the line of scrimmage and take losses. --My number one pet peeve is all those penalities...... especially the unsportsmanlike calls, they are not funny and they kill drives. Coaches can pull players and make their life miserable during the week for committing those if they will. They may not completely stop but there will be less. Every year in the past 3-4 years I have seen a ton of them and there do not seem to be getting any less. Coaches can somewhat control this and just not tolerate it. When your penalty yards almost match your offensive yards it is unbelievable. If you throw in the "gained yards" that where lost as penality yards, we had even fewer offensive yards than penality yards. ---I do not like to lose but can accept it if the other team is just better..... we just gave this one away.... penalties and dumb plays called including no one back on what seemed like obvious punting downs. We were complete suckers on those. We used about no passes that were the 5-10 kind, just long ones and dump-offs in the back-field....In New Orleans there were almost no short passes thrown either, to back up the defense and to allow the running game a chance. ---The last several FFR and Ken posts have it absolutely right.... throw fast and back them off, give the O-line a chance and allow the running game a prayer of success. There has to be some receivers not covered with that much pressure up front. Get some quick short passes in the play-book if there aren't any.

Misery loves company.

---The point was he likes tail-gateing and doesn't mind driving a few miles but not 100's to see what just happened. Coaches should able to cut down on those stupid penalities.... and probably could make better game decisions. This is a part of coaching as well.... besides recruiting, public relations, teaching, drawing up plays, motivating, evaluating players, etc. It is tough to find someone that is good at all of the above.

Speaking of backwards.... Cobbs is shown at 4 completions for a [ minus 7 ] yards.... Maybe it would be better to drop a few of those and lower the percent complete. .... Maybe we should try throwing forward beyond the line of scimmage more often, the other way doesn't seem to work all the well or least just drop them if it nothing but a desparate throw to get rid of the ball... Also Phillips completed one pass for [ minus 4]. Backwards part II----stop getting stupid penalties, especially unsportsmanslike ones or ones committed nowhere near the ball carrier. Maybe then we will never be facing 4th and 55 again. I have never seen that before and have seen a zillion football games. RE: moving the chains.....FORWARD passes and a lot less penalities sure help. Yards: 12 penalties for [ minus 111 ] yards. Offensive yards 129 total [that doesn't count all the yards gained that were negated by penalities ] . Coaches should put teeth into those who commit "stupid" penalities... pull them... and have them run the next week until "hell freezes over". Once in a while a penality makes sense but I didn't see any that did. Tulsa had three penalties for 30 yards..... one was the result of the kicking the ball before the safety, which made sense, better that than give up a touchdown..

---If you are more than 100 miles from the coast then hurricanes are no real danger other than excessive amount of rain and as far as Dallas is.. it is unlikely that will be a problem. ---Gasoline prices are another issue.... if the storm goes over and shuts some more coastal refineries plus shuts down more drilling/production platforms, then prices will climb again due to the lack of supplies for a while. The Hurricanes last Saturday was a bigger problem to North Texas.

---The holding penality was result of what happened on the side opposite of where the ball went (at least that is where the flag was thrown) ..... What was the point of holding?..... it had nothing to do with the result of the play which made it a really stupid penality..... THINK..... As I posted earlier..... Football is as much mental as physical.... Make good decisions. You are right... the result could have been very different without that penality (and several others) .... I think the score then was 2-2.

This loss was more about stupid penalities and bad decisions.... not bad recruiting or even poor effort. They can be somewhat corrected.... show some restraint and self control, and also THINK more.

---It is not losing that bothered me so much as how..... it is the stupidity shown... falling for a 4th down sucker punt (twice). Throwing "regularly" on first down when running is our strength and even many of those were completed for losses, two many stupid penalities (unsportsmanlike or penalities on the side opposite from were the ball was going, why then?). Why throw or call time out when we were hopelessly 30 down in the final two min.... we gave up 14 mores points as a result and then really looked bad........ THINK..........There is a lot more to football than the physical part....

Agree--a lot of bad decisions and stupid penalities especially on offense. Not covering those kicks on defense is inexcusable as well, but that is a bad decision.

----A lot of bad decisions, and stupid penalities some that had nothing to do with the play (why so many unsportsmanslike like?) did us in. Being outplayed is one thing but so many bad mental decisons is a diffferent matter (not covering the non-quick kicks, so many first down passing plays without success, passing behind the scrimmage so often, calling time out and passing near games end).