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it doesn't matter how i feel. another poster said that 150k deaths were easily preventable and i asked how. other guy comes in with stupid comedy instead of answering a question that wasn't even directed at him. all those deaths were not easily preventable...some of them, many of them, most of them...sure, maybe, but not all and that's what coffee and tv said...that's what i was asking...how he would have prevented them. you're right, we can't go back and stop all those deaths, nor could we have prevented all of them. i was replying to the hyperbolic statement from someone that thinks the government screwed up and he could have prevented all those deaths easily. it has nothing to do with private resources, insider profiteering, trump's ego...it has to do with that guys statement. that's what i wanted an answer too

probably not...at the beginning, those getting it and dying were NY old folks home and other really old people with health issues. i never once felt concern for my family or myself from covid

no worries man and you're right, i wasn't at the beginning...understanding it and doing what i can now.

and you gave me a great answer. i'm not disagreeing with anything you're saying. i know we could have cut down on the deaths with some common sense from the beginning, that's not what my issue. my issue goes back to coffee and tea saying all 150k deaths were easily preventable, when they weren't. deaths were going to happen. deaths could have been lower with implementation of things you mentioned. wish it would have happened. i'm not a fan of hyperbolic statements like coffee and tea made when we know all these deaths weren't preventable....many, maybe most, but not all, like he said.

i totally get that the government messed up from the beginning, not arguing that point at all. it's the statement of "150k easily preventable deaths" that is made when there is no way in hell anyone could have easily prevented those 150k deaths. that's it...quit making statements that you know aren't true just because you don't like how someone handled something. everything you mentioned would have been great if it was put in place, but that still wouldn't have easily prevented 150k deaths...some of those deaths, sure, but not all 150k. i know you didn't state that, just using it due to someone posting it.

Wow...your comedy is amazing. /sarcasm...thanks for helping answer the question...so basically, you nor anyone else could have prevented 150k deaths from this virus.

so how would you have kept all 150k alive that have died frorm this virus?

the numbers of online kids will go up. officially, they have to decide by mid august, but truthfully, they can do home learning whenever they decide, just have to commit to finishing out a 9 week grading period. as for hallways, my school is unique. there are only a few hallways and they are very wide. grade levels are setup in "pods" and have a shitton of open space. masks are required in all common areas and release will be staggered a bit. we don't have traditional stairwells, but open stairs...not quite sure how to describe it. no first floor celing, really, except for a few spots. grade level pods are 2 floors, but totally open to the ceiling of the building. hope that makes sense...it's not a normal middle school with long hallways/short celings and cramped areas. it is very open we have also added multiple teachers/sections per grade level to lower numbers. they will never be really small, but they will be smaller than what i am used to (28+)

221 out of about 1200 have now chosen online learning. positives of the numbers going up are smaller class sizes and easier to social distance in class. the safety protocols are great in school. i don't see how they could have done any more to make this safer. no problem going to school with kids every day or sending my own.

i guess i should have been more specific....why would this one event wake people up, as you said? i read it that this was a definitive moment that you think should wake people up, not the cases/deaths increases that have been happening

i love almost everything you said in this post...maybe we aren't so different in our thinking ....beers man!

those i totally get...we humans are stupid sometimes and don't always heed to warning signs (i'm one of them). just don't get why big stores were allowed to be open, but not small ones, thus causing them to go out of business for no reason. 7% is huge in America....don't agree with the shutdown. thanks for your answer

asking you this because you and i seem to be on the opposite side of everything and those words make me think you are good with a shutdown(i could be wrong). i'm having a hard time with the idea of a shutdown. yes, i know that fewer people in groups leads to fewer cases. walmart/home depot/lowes/etc. never shut down, never had issues, and never had any outbreaks of coronoa, before or after mask mandates. why couldn't all businesses have stayed open or at least been given the choice? so many businesses have shut down permanently and our unemployment rate has skyrocketed. restaurants could have stayed open, bars (with obvious numerical restrictions) could have stayed open, barbers, massueses, nail salons and helped out the citizens and economy. i truly do not understand why certain places were shut down and others weren't.

you are totally right, but we don't know...that's all i've been trying to say. it is possible that he didn't catch it at the rally like people are inferring. blaming the president, i really don't understand that. i assume you live in texas (i'm pretty sure we've played at gmg charity games together), why not blame abbott or the mayor of your city? many governors/mayors have passed mandates to wear a mask. they know about they cities/states better than a president does. they could have made masks mandatory from the beginning, but didn't. aren't they to blame?

all of these people have insinuated or implied that he caught it at the rally....responses from the tweet/post by coffee and tea, therefore ya'll are saying he didn't catch it from a gas station or random spot. at least cmj recognizes that no one knows for sure where he contracted the virus

got it...you believe what he did makes him deserve it. this world has no anomalies...everything is perfectly fixed based upon %'s. there are never any upsets or outliers both graphs are the same bad shit happens to good people i need another beer edit: common sense states that you are more likely to catch something from 19k than from 5, but that doesn't mean you can't catch it from 5

shocker, we disagree...it does matter when people make it look like he got it at a presidential rally, that's political panderin and pathetic. people that are doing things 100% correctly can still get it. shit happens. a prominent poster (not you) here has tweeted that he doesn't feel bad for those that got it and died while attending the tulsa trump rally...that's a problem when no one knows where he contracted it. that's misinformation. i hope you don't get it, i hope i don't get it, but if we do, it doesn't mean we did anything wrong. it means we got it, nothing more, nothing less.

no one knows shit and it isn't an exact science was referring to how he contracted covid. you can say he did at the rally, i can say he did getting gas, no one knows shit and it isn't an exact science to know where someone contracted the virus. i am not trying to spread doubt...i am saying that no one knows exactly where he got it (thus exact science and that no one knows shit) we can all speculate, but no one knows for sure, so why don't *you* quit trying to spread ackowledgement of something that you don't know about.

why should it wake people up? should we never leave the house and live in fear of not going out? should we all wear a mask 100% of the time? two people died of covid...do we know exactly where they contracted it? no. Could they have gotten it from grabbing take out...getting gas....buying a beer? sure. Damn, this isn't an exact science and no one knows shit. sucks 2 folks died, but people die. doesn't mean they deserve it(not saying you said that) or that we should all wake up...damn...there is no 1 reason for this or why someone died or how they contracted it.

ya know, we can think that giving a child a sign to protest that says "douchebag the police" isn't kosher AND think that pulling a gun on a guy with his kid on his shoulders isn't kosher...just like people can support both the blm movement and support police. of course, we don't know the full story for either of these instances...don't know why everyone gets so defensive and accusatory

we are going fully online until at least sept. 8th in denton

Well shit....sorry man

i teach all sides and explain to the best of my capabilities to kids why people believed as they did. not once did i say it was right, but i'm still going to explain to the kids why people believe what they did and did what they did. i'm not going to whitewash history or only portray the good parts. people need to know why others think the way they do/did. obviously, you don't like that...cool. from a cultural standpoint, there are reasons for clitorial mutilation/genocide that make sense to those people (not to us, but we aren't living in their society or history). that's all im saying... i never said i agreed with that or genocide or whatever you want to say. edit: i also teach religion, but i'm not about to tell them all the good things about them without letting them know about the negatives.

I teach all view points, good and bad. Its important for kids to understand why some people think the way they do....right and wrong. It's called having an open mind and seeing other cultures and understanding their beliefs. Guess it's a good thing I never taught you in class.

Got it...i'm sorry i ever questioned anything about y your openmindedness and willingness to see/understand why others may think how they do...my bad...you are awesome