Monkeypox

Saying a coach can't possibly win 11 games tells me you don't think he's a very good coach. But I think that's a fair take. It's laughable for SL to win the conference and a bowl game, which tells you everything you need to know about him.

No, I'm saying if SETH LITTRELL doesn't win 10 games this season, then HE is mediocre garbage, as that is the question asked in the thread. For THIS coach, who got blown out by SMU again, blown out by UNLV, was pleased to be on the same field with Memphis, that he has to do the things he's never done to prove he's NOT mediocre. He's already had 3 chances not to fail in that criteria this year... and he failed. I've seen UNT win 9 games in a handful of seasons over my lifetime. I've seen UNT lose to SMU like 80-90% of the time. I've seen us lose to pretty much every OOC FBS team since I went to school here in the 90s. I've seen us lose the vast majority of bowl games. I've seen us win few (and Seth NONE) conference championships. So for SETH LITTRELL, my bar is not 8-9 games, because I consider that an easy hurdle given the resources this program has (resources we didn't have for most of our history) and given the garbage conference we play in, and given the time he's been in charge of it. He would get more slack if he hadn't laid an egg vs SMU, UNLV, and Memphis. But that's what he did because that's what he is. As for the difference between .500 and 10 wins, it's not that much when it comes to SL. If he wins out, he goes 9-3 and then loses the championship game and bowl game (as is his standard), to 9-5. This makes him 46-42, or .522 for his career... 4 games over .500 with 5 wins against OOC FBS teams in 7 years. If he goes 6-1 the rest of the way, and loses a bowl game (assuming someone else goes undefeated in conference or we lose to the other 1-loss team), then he's 8-5... 45-43 for his career. If Seth does what I'm saying I'd need him to do, he'd go 11-3. This would make him 48-41, with a single championship and a single bowl win for his career. Certainly not shooting for the moon.

Wait, it's insane to ask your coach to make you better than you were before he got there? So the only bar we should ever have is bad to mediocre because our program is historically craptastic? Sorry, but I don't think you're going to grow a program if the goal is a .500 record, rare (or no) conference championships, rare (or no) bowl wins. Yeah, that's our history, and our history is garbage.

And Fine had a for-real QB coach who played much of his life in the same system as well.

Win out, win the Conference, win the Bowl Game. Then I hope he gets hired away by some dummy and we use the forward momentum to get a better coach.

Holy.... I can't even with this coach being pleased we can play with another team in the FREAKING CONFERENCE WE ARE JOINING like it's a feat! Every week, G5 schools are taking down P5s and ranked teams, and we're here being happy we can play with teams at our own level. GTFO, Littrell.

Yeah they just outmuscled them from the jump. Just physically dominating them. Boise was NOT prepared for it. Fun to see.

Memphis 48- UNT 24

Damn, I said 4... just call me Mr Sunshine!

I said it before in another thread, but I simply don't believe that NONE of the QBs we have and have had on our roster can consistently complete passes or execute in FBS football better than we have seen, INCLUDING Aune. This is on the coaching staff. And, if I'm wrong (which DOES happen according to the list my wife keeps), then they've failed in recruiting, which is also on the coaching staff. There are TRUE FRESHMAN out there performing just fine at this level.

I'm good at my job, and if my boss was like "you're great, but we're gonna fire you because we hate your stupid face, and also your mom is stupid and your wife is ugly and stupid" and then gave me $1m, I'd give them a hug and say "I love you, too," on my way out the door, because money speaks louder than words.

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I went through all of his throws in the TSU game, and all of his throws but the pick (which was very very bad in almost every way) were good. The SMU game there wasn't much to go on. He had an early scrambling throw, believe it was his first, that he just rushed and threw at the feet of the RB like 4 yards away. Pretty awful. Then he took an ugly sack where he probably should've gotten rid of the ball (but everyone was pretty well covered), and had to throw to a blanketed WR on 4th and 9. Next drive we had a play-action on 2nd and 1, he had all the time in the world, and threw to a wide open Gumms down the sideline. Accurate throw, and one I'd expect to be made. Then from the 9 yard line, we run it twice and get nothing, so it's 3rd and goal from the 6 before we throw again. Nobody gets open, and Gunnell tosses it out of the end zone. Goes through all his reads and nobody is even close to open. 4th and goal from the 6, looks like it's a designed play to Ragsdale just past the LOS, which sounds worse than it is since the WR DO successfully clear out the underneath. But Ragsdale is a bit too wide and stumbles as he catches the ball. And there were more reports from Spring than just the coach. Local media and fans had said he looked good in Spring Practice. Not raves or calls for him to take the starting job, but just that he looked good. I'm starting to think it's less about the injury and more about rust from not playing in a long time and our offensive coaching staff/lack of QB coach, though I leave open the possibility that he's re-injured or aggravated the leg in some way. All of that said, I'm not seeing anything from the game footage that tells me he would be any worse than Aune.

Re-watching the tape... First throw was fine, nothing great or bad, and his feet were planted but he just didn't look like he was driving. Second throw is a play-action and our backup OL gets obliterated. Has a guy in his face, but makes an accurate throw to a WR who's being interfered with (flagged and accepted). Off his back foot, but unable to do anything about that because he has a defender hitting him. Third throw was a play-action and he either did a GREAT ball-fake or he bobbled the ball a little on the fake (or both). It threw off the timing enough that once again he had a defender in his grill and wasn't able to step into the throw. Not a great pass as it hung up there for a while, but it still got 30 yards in the air off his back foot to Maclin crossing the field and was completed. If he's able to step into it, it's probably 6. Fourth throw - pick in the end zone. Everything about this is bad. He's not under tremendous duress, the WR is bracketed, he doesn't set his feet. THIS is the jump-throw I was thinking of, and idk why it happened. This is just a bad bad bad rep. But we're at 3/4 of his passes being fine at this point, and his first inaccurate pass (might only give him partial credit for the 2nd throw). Now, I feel like I missed one, because he's listed as 2-4 with the pick, but the incomplete 2nd pass shouldn't count as an attempt. After the pick, he never threw the ball again. I was skipping around, so it's possible I missed an attempt, but I don't think so. The problem is I just don't have much to go on from his time here. He should've come in earlier against TSU, but I think SL still feels the need to get Aune as many game reps as possible.

Yeah there's something in the footwork. He's hop-throwing. Arizona tape doesn't look like that, so I would normally assume it's injury-related. However, reports were that he looked good even in spring ball this year at Memphis, and the QB competition between he and Henigan wasn't settled at that time. So there's a part of me that's concerned that our lack of a proper QB coach is an issue or that we've tried to "fix" something with him mechanically that's led to this. Idk, but yeah, his footwork doesn't look right (in the very limited reps we've seen).

Yeah, I'm just going on what he's done since Liberty 2018. He's 0-11 vs OOC FBS since then. Overall, 5-18. And don't look at the score differential. People talk about body bag games when that's everything outside of FCS and CUSA for SL. Armyx2, SMU, Arkansas, Liberty... that's the OOC FBS wins for his career.

Start even simpler: “What do YOU think are the three phases of football?” Maybe we’re all just looking at different things, you know? Maybe jersey combos has been one of the phases this whole time and we need more jersey threads…

Eh, he just kept a great program going, similar to Clark at App State. Both deserve credit for their accomplishments, but it's not the same as building a program or taking over a bad one and making it good. We're talking about a Coastal Carolina program that started from nothing in 2003 and has an all-time record of 152-80. Want to look at our record over the same timeframe, even if we cut out everything after he became the CC Head Coach in 2019, and see if it looks like he'd be taking over the same sort of program he did at Coastal? I'm not even against Chadwell, I just don't think he should get all the credit for a program that was winning games from pretty much day one, and rarely skipped a beat. Same as I wouldn't give Clark all the credit for App State.

He didn't make a great program out of Coastal. David Bennett built the program from scratch and had a 63-39 record there, then Moglia oversaw their next few years including the transition into FBS by going 56-22.

I originally had us for 5 wins. I guess I should still have us at 5, since we've got the exact record I'd figured we'd have at this point. HOWEVER, our defense has been pretty atrocious, so I'm gonna take back one and say we end up with 4 wins.

Uhm... this is the first year we haven't had a P5 "body bag" game on our schedule (not counting the canceled A&M game from 2020). Florida, Iowa, Arkansas, Cal, Missouri... With SL, the FCS games are the only ones we have a better than average chance of winning. I don't really have an issue with our current scheduling. Our problem is we can't beat them enough for people at the end of the year to be like "Yeah, but who have they beaten...?"

Here's all I need to know about Memphis: FBS and not in CUSA. Seth goes 0-12.

As I stated in another thread, Seth is 5-18 vs ALL OOC FBS opponents, and hasn't won one since beating Liberty in 2018. 0-11 since. If not for the FCS gimme and garbage conference we play in, it could be much worse.

What lies ahead? A blowout loss to Memphis, most likely.