DallasGreen

Down from a 3 point opening line to 1 point per this morning's DMN. Should be pick em by game time. We proved last year that we can lose to provisional 1-A teams ( ask FAU).

Check out NT's Seagrin rating --1 point above FIU and would rank # 5 in the Southland. Nothing to be proud of from this season. It's becoming more obvious that SMU knew just what they were doing in restarting that series for 2006. That's the loss that will be really hard to stomach, but we'll again be told " it's only another ho-hum OOC game" as the DFW media buries us for good.

As bad as this year has been and promises to finish as same, 2006 bodes to be much worse. Just imagine this team in thebopener. The 'Horns will have Vince Young as an experienced SR. QB, Selwyn Young as a SR. RB, and a stud soph. in Charles at RB plus a solid defense. NT may never make a first down let alone score. Hmmm let's se if Tula can put up 54 and DD is 0-92 in two trips to Austin it's not inconceivable that UT hits that 92 in one game. Don't think so? Watch what LSU does on 10/29 in Baton Rouge.

This is the same coaching staff that inserted Richard (one win) Bridges in place of all state offensive player of the year Spencer Stack. Glad you have so much respect for their decisions, nothing in the entire DD regime would make me feel the same.

Note the reply "we" ( Jackson and BOR). It's evident who now runs the show at UNT. Look for more resignations or at least resign or be fired ultimatums. I predict every Pohl hire including RV is now in jeopardy. UNT is in the midst of taking a GIANT step backwards with more and more $$$ and emphasis thrown the way of a miserably failing Dallas campus.

In 1976 North Texas had a total athletic budget of $900K. The only reason we got the game was DKR's relationship with Coach Fry and the fact that Dr. Lorainne Rogers ( a North Texas Alum) was then President of UT. DKR did give us 1/2 the gate saying if we were good enough to play we were good enough to share the gate. This was an Earl Campbell led team and it was more Campbell that beat us than anyone else. I have never ever seen an NT team play with as much heart as that team did. It was one of the most brilliant game plans and coaching jobs I have ever seen. The Fry coached teams never heard of "body bag" games. They felt they were in the game against anyone. Instead of making excuses those coaches made game plans that fit their personnel. I do not dislike our present staff, but once you have seen what can happen when a team is truly motivated to win you can't appreciate the lack of comparison. Honor Coach Fry tonight. He is truly what college football is all about. I feel blessed to have witnessed his time here as well as coach Blakeley. I keep hoping the magic they provided will again return. So far no one else has even come close.

Also heard that Guy Morris was NOT satisfied with a moral victory " playing close is like taking a shower with your sister"--- that's the attitude it takes to WIN. Remember each loss gets easier for a team with no pride and NT has pulled two big time stinkers in a row!!

This is the only team that continues to each week provide embarrassements that drive its fans away in droves. Most teams seasons haven't ended by the end of Sept.

Thanks A. V. I hope the slackard students and Denton nesters read this and see the sacrifices others make when they have everything so easy and right in their own backyard but still manage to find excuses not to show. It will cost my firm some $700 for me to miss work to be there but I'm not letting that be an excuse not to go and also bring Coach Bill Blakeley for a reunion with his old A D Hayden Fry.

UNT 24 Troy 22 Attendance 8,500 ( 2,000 students)

Coaches can not win games but they can put their players in a position to win through preparation, strategy, adjustments during a game, adaptation of scheme to personnel, and most of all that intangible ---motivation. That is where Hayden Fry shined, and he never made excuses --i.e. facilities, lack of blue chip players, overscheduled, fans that turned on him,etc. Never did one of his teams go into a game thinking that they could not win it!! Again and again I see players give up on plays, get whipped on blocks, juked out of their jocks, and hang their heads in shame. Attitude is just as important as ability and I see that motivation leaving our team like a speeding bullet with each additional loss. Until someone can convince this team that they are capable of playing against their opponents, I fear nothing but more embarrassing losses. Don't kid yourself that Tulsa and KSU are any powerhouses. These lopsided defeats just represent how low our esteem has sunk. I guarantee you a good old fashioned Hayden Fry pep talk both pregame and at half would not do this team any harm.

There is a North Texas Exes chapter in Chicago. Contact bsanders@unt.edu and she can give you contacts to officers, etc.

I was at that Drake game when Coach Fry's players were actually dunking the ball over the goal posts after each TD. They were of course penalized on the ensuing kick off, but Iseed Khoury would still kick it in the end zone so the penalties had no effect. The " crowd" loved it. We won't see a game like that again in Fouts in my lifetime unless we were to schedule a D-3, and I can't see us dominating a game like that even if we scheduled Sul Ross.

What has happened since? Would that team have ever stood for embarrassments like the last two weeks not to mention UT,FAU, CU & BU last year. PRIDE is definitely lacking along with motivation and it hasn't always been this way.

maybe the lettermen are using it now, but it's certainly nothing to brag about unless it has changed greatly from the last time I was in it'

Why would we look down on them---we sure couldn't play TAM as well as they did!!

I really hate for Coach Fry to see the depth to which this program has sunk when he had done soooo much to get it to a higher level.

I think you are referring to the old Fred McCain room which as I understand it is no longer used like so many of the nooks and crannies of Fouts. The EXES are in the alumni center bottom floor right side of the arch at the Gateway Center corner of North Texas Blvd. & Eagle Dr.

Don't bet against it--- that 2006 game with SMU at home looks more scary with every game we play in 2005.

We are recruiting at the 1-AA level and trying to play 1-A OOC games. The SBC is only a 1-AA league masked as D-1A. To say we compete with the SBC recruits only says we rank in the top 25 in 1-AA. Yes we have 20 more scholarships than 1-AA, but are we getting 20 more D-1A caliber players? You can say recruiting lists mean nothing, but when we have for years never had more than 1 or 2 recruits in the area let alone state 100 it tells something. I think back to all the hype about recruiting classes and then see us in the pathetic situation we now find ourselves and now clearly see all the hype was just fan fodder. As was once said on this board when we play true D-1A programs it's our all district players against their all state players. We run up against young players that kill us such as the KSU back from Richardson Pierce who were in our own back yard yet they choose to go far from home rather than come here. We have sung the lack of facilities song to the press for sooooo long that recruits believe it and no longer come to visit even though we now have the facilities.

I really wish I believed that they took these last two whippings that seriously, but I doubt it.

SLC beat him to getting a grip. SFA, NW St., SHSU, TSU @ SM would ALL LOVE TO HAVE US ON THEIR SCHEDULE. BET SMU FEELS THEIR 2006 game in Denton is one of the sweetest deals they ever made!!! As bad as it looks the worst is yet to come-- SBC streak ends 10/04. Hey, Hey whadya say follow this program all the way. Try as we want try as we may we're all the way back to 1-AA!!!!

We did have a 1-AA the first game, SBC mate, MTSU. I would sure take them over Texas State @ San Marcos

Wife and I have reservations for FAU on 11/12

What many fail to realize is we've had an extraordinary streak of luck in this SBC string. It all ends 10/04 before less than 10K on national t v. You can take that to the bank.