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And we'll be back to TX stadium before we ever fill Fouts!! No top 50 team will EVER come to Denton and we'll either play at a Dallas venue or watch SMU bring the big draws to town. Denton will once again prove for the umpteenth time that it cares nothing about big time college football. I see Fouts being here for my lifetime as the $$ just aren't there and may not ever be. The students had a vote to show their lack of interest and close the door on the best chance for a new stadium. Dream on " just build it Boys" but it ain't gonna happen without a huge donor who sees a valid business purpose to make such a sizeable investment.

I think we lose the pregame as well just by intimidation of Mike the Tiger. When the final gun sounds it's 70-0 just so LSU can say it one upped UT on whipping the sacrificial lamb just as they did in stealing the QB recruit.

Coaches will have to have a starter and I would bet it's Cullen Mills for LSU. Knows the system, good HS credentials, just hasn't got game opportunity. Better to throw him to the Tigers ( LSU will be a VERY UGLY game) than a gimpy Meager and if Cullen is still standing after LSU then Meager should be healed by MTSU and it's a 2 horse race for 2005. Where there is smoke there is fire and with players saying Byerly is gone you can pretty well write him off for 2005.

I don't feel you can say criticism of either of our DD led UT games is unfair. These are the two most lop sided losses in the entire history of the series under 4 prior coaches ( Fry, Tyler, Nelson, and even Parker ). We probably had more talent on the field than any of those prior teams ( admitted UT also had more talent than their other teams as well) but in the first half of both games and the entire second game we were unmotivated, outclassed, and pitifully out coached. The 2004 UT game may be one of the most embarassing efforts in the history of NT football---the effort was purely pitiful!!!!

BINGO--SUMG. This one will get very ugly very fast. It's 0-92 in two trips to UT and don't tell me the first was a moral victory when we were down by the eventual final score of 0-27 at halftime!! Best chance against LSU ----start calling dial-a-prayer.

ALL RAMSEY'S RECORDS WERE SET IN 3 YEARS NOT FOUR. NOT ONLY THE BEST NT QB EVER, BUT ONE OF THE BEST PURE PASSERS I HAVE EVER WITNESSED. IMHO FOR NT QB IT'S RAMSEY AND ABSOLUTELY NO CONTEST WITH ANY OTHER NT QB.

I can certainly wait. I was there in Manhattan in 1989 when we as a 1-AA broke the nation's longest losing streak for then new head coach, Bill Snyder. KSU has come a long way since then and even if they are coming off a down year I would rate NT's chances only slightly better than against LSU ( absolutely NO CHANCE IN HE-- again LSU to slim and none at KSU).

After Stanley Morgan, The TN great TE had scored the final TD for the Vols, Mercer was in the booth talking about how a tie in Neyland Stadium before a usual sellout crowd would be quite an accomplishment for the Mean Green. Then Sears Wood took the ensuing kick off near his own goal line and broke free at mid field. The last 50 yards of the TD jaunt all Mercer was saying to his color man was "I don't see any flags do you see any flags?" Of course this was an era where we went for wins rather than just "trying to hold it close to the fourth quarter and see what happens". Ask OK St., U of H, SMU, UT, Miss St., San Diego State, and many others if we played a hold it close approach and you'll get a resounding NO WAY!! With much more in facilities, more and significantly higher paid coaches, better athletes, an institution with greater enrollment, more alumni, and a more populated Denton no one can seem to give a plausible reason as to why we continue to pull off embarrasements like UT and in all probability LSU by a failure to compete now when we competed under much more detrimental circumstances. 0-92 for two trips to UT is an absolute atrocity not to mention CU and Baylor!! BEAT C-USA NOW--- BEAT LA TECH & BEAT TULSA and MOST OF ALL BLAST SMU in 2006!!!!

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Connections to the right alumni hits it right on the head. Do you think Deloss or Mack give a rat's--- about what anyone else thinks as long as Tom Hicks and Red McCombs are in their back pocket-- it's all about $$$ and as much as I think RV is one of the 3 greatest things to happen to NT ( Hayden Fry & Norval Pohl being the other two) I wouldn't blame him one bit for jumping at this opportunity. In spite of all he has done he is not an alum, he has had to deal with apathy and adversity more than he could have ever dreamed when he took this job, and the man who has helped him the most --Dr Pohl is also feeling heavy pressure from the Jackson camp. If we were to lose them both near the same time we are back ten years immediately.

Our A.D.'s have had all kinds of tenures from 3 days ( jim Hunter of Iowa) to several years-- Hayden Fry. If I had to put $$$ on it I would lay odds that RV is the A D at TCU by the end of next week.

Sarah Heiser publishes an on line news letter. She is marketing director and always looking for new material. Contact sheiser@unt.edu Although far from where we want to be our membership will number 5,000 at the end of this semester not 3,500 again, just giving the facts. Also we sponsor at least 2 tables at all athletic banquets, have a presence at at least 70% of all FB road games, paid $20K toward the green seats in the coliseum, offered our logo to the athletic dept. and the school who both promptly turned it down-- there is no grounds whatsoever to say we don't work with athletics. One of our biggest problems is getting faculty and coaches to join us. A majority of our board are upper level members of MGC, but only Coach Bell is a member from athletics. Our bylaws state you can join as a friend of NT and don't have to be an alum. Apparently not many who work at NT are supportive of NT.

Steve - We now have a director of chapter development who will be most receptive to any suggestions you may have. As I previously mentioned her name is Barbara Sanders and she was special assistant to Dr. Pohl for several years. Her sole job is revitalizing the chapters which will have their own volunteers, projects, budgets, etc. which Barbara will assist in facilitating. Regarding the chair and MBNA that must have been that company's promotion as I have heard nothing about this being offerred by the Exes.

Big correction here -There is no plasma tv in the Alumni Center That is totally false ! The big screen tv there was bought at cost from a dealer/alum at more than $1K less than retail. We also had a promise of donated funds for it from Belo, but when DMN circulation dipped they renigged. As for no one seeing it, there are pre and post game receptions at the Alumni Center as well as watching parties. If you choose not to come by then that's your choice. It seems many here are whinning and are part of the problem rather than taking the initiative to get involved. If $40. breaks your budget then your problems are much bigger than exes membership. As for the comments by GGII, he was given literally thousands of leads plus a substantial fee for seed $ for this fiasco. His product was a publication not a web based product and would have been obsolete the day it was published with little ability to update. The advertising rates were astronomical. I would not mention this except GGII opened the door with his derogatory comments. Check his giving record with MGC or the Exes and you'll see that there's no great loss of funds in any of the many times he chooses to pull his monetary support. Sorry Rick but you were the one that opened the door, and GMG.com might as well have the truth.

These are good points although some are already in place. There is a GRADitude table at each graduation reception hosted by Dr. Pohl. New graduates are able to sign up for no cash outlay-- just the assignment of the $20. property damage deposit they put up when they first entered NT, and that they have long since forgotten and probably would not go through the extreme hassle it would be should they want it refunded. In return they get a full years membership ($40 value), an NT license plate holder, decal, access to all affinity programs, and discounts on exes msde. , etc. At present plans are under way for a huge reception/ party at the Gaylord Center for St. Pat's day 2006. We hope to make this an annual event for all chapters to celebrate glory to the green on the greenest day on the calendar and of course when 3/17 doesn't fall on a weekend, the event will be the weekend preceeding. We hope to make this an annual event like aggie muster and Texas Independence Day that UT chapters celebrate. We have a new director of chapter development--Barbara Sanders, former special assistant to Dr. Pohl, who would love to be contacted with any questions or suggestions for chapters. A student chapter has already been organized on campus and Barbara will provide any info. you might need on that. Just drop by the alumni center --right bottom floor of the Gateway arch, and you can become involved to whatever extent you desire. Contacts are bsanders@unt.edu; dlayton@unt.edu; sheiser@unt.edu; jkraus@unt.edu-- all would be happy to present any ideas you might have to the respective committees, chapter leaders, and the quarterly meetings of the board of directors. Jim Fincher, President-elect, North Texas Exes

The us vs. them does not treat any fan well, especially those that were there to hear it. Those of us who have been around a while have never heard this drivel from other staffs and yes we'll still be there and have been there long before this staff came and will be there when it leaves. This is the highest paid coach ever at NT and that includes some very good ones. Never did the others continually criticise the customers. No one can question DD's accomplishments but one of any coaches duties is p/r, and last night he was a miserable failure when it came to that. I agree w/ FFR 100% AND I'LL PUT MINE AND HIS SUPPORT RECORD UP AGAINST ANY OF THE ABOVE RESPONDENTS!!

That is EXACTLY the point that needs to be emphasized. The us vs. them is very old by this point. By the end of the regular season on Thurs. I will have been to 10 of the 11 games this year, and hell yes I was critical of a defense that quit cold at UT, at CU, and again at BU. A loss to a 1-AA that has now been beaten on its home turf by several SBC teams is no moral victory either. I'll also admit that I was verbally upset at the play of AA @CU and made it known when the offense was continually busting its tail only to see the defense roll over one more time, but I'm also enough of a man to go up to AA last night and apoligize for being down on him early on and tell him I was proud of the way he'd stepped it up since. He actually got a kick out of my apology. DD needs to learn the same humility when he makes a fan critical remark that while maybe not intended to the fans he is addressing comes off as if it includes everyone. If I fail at times at my job I hear about it immediately. DD and his staff and players need to understand that is how the rest of the world works---take it constructively and learn from it or ignore it, but what does this immature retaliation prove other than alleinate some good fans that may not blindly follow, but are always there when it counts.

It never has been funny. The students are showing to be truly the laziest most apathetic jackasses of any D-1 institution. They are a disgrace to UNT and to themselves. I don't think for one minute that they were at any parties. They just had to go home for the weekend so mama could do their wash. When we are back in 1-AA in spite of having an exciting team to watch and a fast emerging group of loyal alumni, I hope these lazy mama's babys realize how they devalued their degree and were the devestation of a vastly improved college football program. There is no excuse period for last night's student turnout.

Right on--How can you root for a California asian group of misfits against a Texas team ? I do believe UT lost to a far inferior team that they had twice beaten during the regular season. The loss showed the one thing that NT can take advantage of and that is the enormous UT ego and arrogance. They will believe NT to be far inferior, and if we can move the ball w/o mistakes ( very unlike 2 years ago when we lost by the worst margin of defeat in the history of the series) we have a slim chance of pulling the upset. Although it's our all district players against their all state players, and like I've said before you can't coach players to run 4.4s or grow to 6' 8" tall you just might surprise UT enough with athleticism to stand a slight chance. Conservatism will kill us offensively, but with success on a few " exotics" early UT could be back on its heels before finally deciding that this is more than a preseason scrimmage against an inferior non-BCS opponent. The stars will have to align just right and just maybe the UT arrogamce will seal the deal. A very long shot at best, but who can say=== it worked the last 2 days!!

Be careful and tread lightly on Grey Eagle's beloved 'Nags. The "undisclosed fee" they paid to C-USA for the invite shows what SMUUUU is really famous for--- whether its big bucks to the league or the best team money can buy the big cigars with the big $$$ still drive the Hoss!!!

At my son's graduation from UT some science speaker soliciting research funds(like UT needs more $) said something like in 10 years no one will remember who won the Big XII, but they will know the research their $ brought in. The big difference at UT was all the graduates gave him a big round of boooos when he said that. Then he suggested a state income tax to support research funding and the parents booed!!!

It will hurt more than some at least the way this guy was coming on strong in the last 3 games. It is definitely time for some others to step up at this position!!

If you feel this year's team can get an NIT bid LOL! We have now lost big time to all area teams--TCU,SMU,BU and never fired a shot in any of them. Darn lucky to beat TAM-C, a D-II team. Cold shooting , no rebounding, no physical game under the net, poor passing---these are all present on this year's team. Looks like a VERY long BB season!!!

I too feel Johnny did a great job last year, but we now have losses to all the locals(SMU & TCU) and didn't look great in either. We lost to TN Tech who may be good at home but isn't exactly an NCAA power. CU was drubbed earlier by Rice, and from past results we would seem to have no shot against BU or Auburn. At least we should get fat against TAMC 'cause if we don't real trouble lies ahead. I know we lack height but its the intensity in rebounding that we really have not shown. Our shooting % is bad and way too often we get just one 3 point opportunity before the opponents get the rebound. Maybe AA can give us muscle under the basket that we have lacked so far. It is beginning to look like a LONG season.