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Sorry guys, you are wrong. That is outdated (Helwig era information). First inclination - the Mean Green Eagles thing. RV and Coach Dickey BOTH stated directly to me (and a whole room of supporters that from here on out (this was about summer 2002) - we would no longer have any NAME association with the Eagle when dealing with the Athletic Programs. The symbol of th school will always be the Eagle and we should be proud of that. Just like Alabama has an Elephant for their Symbol but are known as the crimson tide. The reason why they were corrected today - because our SID ran over to the table and CORRECTED them. Another way to tell that the information is outdated... It lists in the same sentence that the female teams are called the Lady Eagles. Again - OUTDATED INFORMATION. All lady's sports were gievn the option to choose EITHER Mean Green or Eagles for their team names back in 2001-2002. The lady's basketball team was the ONLY team that decided to stick with Lady Eagles. The other 8 lady's teams all chose to go with the Mean Green. Two years ago, the lady's basketball team had a team vote and officially became the Mean Green as well. Now - all 16 of our sports carry the same nickname/moniker of Mean Green. The brand new floor of the Super Pit which had just been refinished to say Lady Eagles on one side and Mean Green on the other (along with both names at half court) - was stripped down and changed simply to Mean Green to signify the occasion. We will always have Scrappy. We will always have the Eagle as our mascot. But when it comes to team name - Our Official Team Name is the MEAN GREEN. Look at the OFFICIAL athletic website: www.MeanGreenSports.com. Try to find one single sentence that has the word "Eagle" in it referring to one of our teams' names. You know what - it will be a long journey for you and you will come up empty handed. For now, our teams are simply the Mean Green. Stanford is the Cardinal and have a tree for a mascot. Alabama is the Crimson Tide and has an Elephant for a mascot. Tulane is the Green Wave and has a Pelican for a mascot. North Texas is the Mean Green and has an Eagle for a mascot. It is that easy, that plain, and that simple. Don't we have this discussion every year... maybe I should save this post so I don't have to retype it next time someone tries to pass aong old information. AND - Yes, back in the Helwig days - Craig tried to make everyone happy (the Mean Green lovers and the Eagle lovers) by combining the two nicknames to one big happy Mean Green Eagles name. He even had a big thing painted on Fouts that said "Home of the Mean Green Eagles" - that is gone now. When you look up at our scoreboard, yuo will see one name and one name only for our team (no matter the sport or venue) - Mean Green. The Eagle is simply the mascot now.

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This quote alone from Meager sums up why he is not a good field general. Just reading the write-up made me sick to my stomach... either our defense has really gotten better or we really have digressed yet another year. Either way, Meager should be furious at the Offense's performace (just looking and reading the numbers) and should not be "satisfied" that all is good in the neighborhood. Bring on Phillips, Wilson, or Tune - Meager doesn't have that fire in him that we require.

I would love to see the option against teams with less speed. We could run option against SMU, La Tech, Tulsa, Akron, and most of the Belt... I wouldn't want to run option against UT - it would be a LONG day, they simply would stack the box and we would go 3 and out all day long.

The NOB does not get the "#4" team from CUSA, we get the 2,3,4 pick depending on geography and fans. The year that we won, we were playing the champions of CUSA - Cinci, it is just that we picked fourth then and they had not had a final week of games to determine their champ yet. In fact, if you look at the 4 years that CUSA has sent teams to the bowl, you will see that they have only sent their #4 team to the game once (last year - when it was in Lafayette). The other years they sent their (tied)#1, (tied)#2, and (flat out) #3 teams. The Belt may be poor in the rankings but CUSA has chosen to invest $300K a year into buying up that spot for their conference and have just as much to lose by sending a team with a poor traveling fan base. I just freaking hate it when people take something that is not ideal... in fact - bad, and then try to make it even worse because they have sour f-ing grapes. The NOB is a freaking great trip and we always get a great opponent with great fans. The one year that we didn't - we beat them... I am waitng for us to have both. BTW, ASU gave that #4 Southern Miss a great game last year, the score was 31-19 ... . Sure, they lost - but it was a close game played under bad circumstances in a pretty cruddy destination city. Southern Miss had lost to Alabama by 9, NCState by 4, Tulsa (the CUSA champ), Houston by 3, and Memphis by 2... There is a lot of parity in CUSA - That USM team was literally 5 points away from being the #2 team... and now that the bowl is back in New Orleans - and the whole country is wanting to see New Orleans gets back on its feet - AND the fact that the game is FINALLY beaing played on a Friday rather then a Tuesday - I think that you will see our little bowl game explode in crowd volume this year. And I bet that we get the #2 or #3 team out of CUSA in the process for the game. We get the pick of #2, #3, or #4 depending on what other bowls have picked and who can travel the best. Having 500 Marshall fans in Ft Worth does nothing for CUSA - they will base who goes where on who can give them the best return on their annual investment.

I agree with you 100%. Meager will have the job to lose at least through the UT game. If we get killed down in Austin then we will see Phillips. I think that I might be rooting for a rout. Phillips is the man I want out there.

There is a guy that I work with that played for Rutgers and made the Chicago practice squad... I asked him how much it pays and he said that when he was playing (3 years ago) it paid about $75K a year. He got dropped after one season and went to play in the CFL - he said that he took about a 50% pay decrease to play in Canada and it would have been much more if he had not established residency there. Evidently, if you move there (have an apt or house) - you don't have to pay some sort of foreign worker's tax. Just thought that I would add that to the discussion that even if Cobb's just makes the PS, he will still be making pretty good money. What a Cinderella story for a guy out of Oklahoma that nobody else but NT would take a chance on...

PS - I put in the best avavilable and the only tickets they offer are Sections A-C and Sections G-I... so Sections D, E, and F are not being sold... but it looks like an SMU fan can get tickets on the NT side if they go through Ticketmaster.

I get an e-mail from Ticketnmaster about big local events - they try to sell me tickets to them. I only get one about once a month or so but I got one this morning... for... University of North Texas Mean Green vs SMU Mustangs. Have they taken over our single ticket sales or is this a one game deal? Click on the link below to check it out. http://www.ticketmaster.com/event/0C003CECDCB480B7

Consequently, OU is required to allow him to stay in school at OU (on full scholarship) if they won't release him - even if he isn't on the football team.

You are kind of right. The way it works is a kid is either released from his ship or not. If he is not released from his ship, he would come here this year and pay his own way. After one school year, he would be automatically released from his ship whether OU like it or not and would be eligible for play in 2007. He would basically be a walk-on with the team for this year but since he has to sit out a year (IA transferring rules), then he would really have the choice of whether he played, practices, or even talked to the football team until next summer (I would hope that he would take advantage of the time to get to know our players and "system")... Jason Miller did this when he went to OSU. We refused to release him from his ship, he went anyways - paid his own way for one year while sitting out... and the next year he was put on full scholarship and was able to play. Either way, Bomar will have to sit out (the minimum) of a year.... maybe more if the NCAA decides to tack more onto it. The only thing that OU can control is if they release him or not. If he is not released, he can't take a scholarship from another school for one year. Plain and simple. So Bomar would have to pay for one year at NT - I am sure that his parents can figure out a way to put that together, just like every other family in America has to - IF HE REALLY WANTS TO BE HERE... we will see.

That was the old rule - the new rule is that they pay a $50 surcharge.

The purpose of the $50 surcharge is strictly to weed out UT fans wanting to get cheap seats in OUR section. UT tickets are hard to come by, they have sold out every game for the last 20 years or so. The Visiting Section really is not that bad of a location, it is lower level at least (but in the endzone)... and getting a lower leevl ticket to a UT game is pretty hard to come by. So what do the cheap UT fans do? They buy their tickets for the opposing team's allotment so that they don't have to become a Longhorn Club Member or buy a $1000 parking pass... The net result has been speckled orange in the Mean GREEN section down in Austin over the last few games. So what we have done is put something in place to try and either stop the UT fans from buying tickets in OUR section - or at the least, get an extra $50 bucks out of them for doing so.

Didn't Akron wih the MAC last year? Looks like we are getting them on an upswing year - kind of like Tulsa (and even SMU to some extent) last year. La Tech will be no walk in the park either. Our "cush" OOC schedule just got a lot harder now that I look at it on paper - could be much of the same but it will be all the losses without the paychecks... at least we got some home games out of these ass clowns!

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Thanks buddy - I feel like I have been run over by an 18 wheeler right now; I had absolutely no idea that surgery took so much out of people. But the surgery was a success- they were able to remove my broken disk that has been causing me problems since January and now I just have to force myself to take it easy until I am all healed up. I actually miss work and am sick of watching tv, that is for sure... but at least I am able to get on the internet now. I have gotten a few PM's wanting to know what was up - and those that were at the GMG Bowl knew that I was waiting on back surgery; thus my electing to "coach" this year rather then play... but to answer the inquiries (and thank you all for caring, I am tuoched) - I was in the hospital for 4 cruddy days and was stuck in a cruddy room, with a cruddy roommate, attempting to sleep on a cruddy/uncomfortable bed, with really cruddy cable (like 30 channels of crud!), and cruddy/disgusting food. On top of all that, I couldn't get on the dang internet without going downstairs and my cruddy nurse wouldn't let me do that because I was hooked up to the one thing that was not so cruddy - my morphine Morphine might be really addictive and bad for you in the long run - but if you are stuck in a cruddy hospital bed for 4 freaking days then that shot every 2 hours really helps the time go by a lot faster! Should be healed up in time for football season and hopefully I can fall off a balcony in New Orleans this year and mess it up!

Thanks man, I am recovering from back surgery and working from home - but they do these Friday contests for my g/f's work and she wanted to win one for a change, lol.

I caught NR on cable (again) the other night and there is a pretty funny inside story to it. The "North Texas" team was called Texas State and we played only one "real" team in the movie - that team - Southwest Texas State Bobcats; who is now Texas State. IF we ever agree to play Texas State - we could call the matchup the Neccesary Roughness Shootout. They beat us in the movie, I think that they would have a chance of taking us again - either way it would be a great game.

Rick - I love how you SAY what I THINK, lol - couldn't have put it better... BUT - Isn't telling your buddies half the fun at that age?

As many of the older posters know, I used to comment on pretty much anything and everything on this board. You may or may not have noticed - but I just don't do it after last season. In fact, I pretty much didn't contribute suring last season either. Maybe a little bit during pre-season, and after Week 1.... but after that, I was pretty quiet. Reason why? No, I don't hate the Mean Green. I just know this cycle. I have been through it before. It takes two things to win in college football - an on the field general and an off the field general. Sometimes one can comensate for the other but they both have to be at least "good" in order to win. If they are both "great" then your team will move mountains. Before Dickey we had Simon, before Simon we had Parker. Parker was a fraternity brother of mine - in fact, he pledged up at SE OK State, just like me. And he had talent on his teams. He just couldn't coach. Simon could coach - he came in with the same talent, won the Southland and got us to the playoffs. But the key to him doing that was the magic of Air Maher. That is our on the field general QB Mitch Maher. Simon struggled after Maher left. We went through probably 10 QB's over the next few years. We lost some seriously embarrasing games. But Simon's problem was that he never found "that guy" for the field. Dickey comes in - has same problem - which is wierd for a guy that is an ex-QB. We shuffled through yet another 4-5 QB's... until we found Scott. And Scott Hall was something special from the day he stepped foot on the practice fields. I was still up in Denton then and would go up to watch summer practices. I am telling you - people were excited. Here comes this DE that is trying to win a QB position? What the heck? But Scott had the fire. Then came Drew. Scott goes down, Drew steps in and starts making things happen. DeLoach had assembled a salty defence to help the freshman QB out but Drew MADE STUFF HAPPEN. I was at ASU in Jonesboro for Drew's coming out party. He pulled a Scott Hall - put the team on his shoulders and won the game for us all. The Miracle in the Dessert. The Miracle in Jonesboro. The Miracle in New Orleans (honestly). That is what we have been granted up till last year. lots of great times. I will wrap this up. quite simply put - we lost games last year because we didn't have a QB. Do I blame Dickey? Doesn't really matter. I think that the man has a heart of gold and anyone that met him at the Scholarship football game would back me up. After all the trash he has had to read on this board - he showed up, with players, and gave out gifts. He gave me a huge hug and thanked me for being there. At one point I hated the way that Dickey would not embrace the fans. Well, he embraced me - and a lot more others that day. He is a great guy. and I THINK he is still a pretty darn "good" coach... we just need a QB. If Dickey doesn't solve that problem - he will be in trouble, but I am sure that he know that.

There are normally players at every one of those local celebrations. It is the fans that need to be notified of the exact time and day of the event (in advance) so that we can show up and help in any way possible (bottled water, help passing out schedule cards, wireless laptops to help people sign up for season tikets on the spot, etc...)

The infidels have no chance against our sticks and rocks. We will crush them with our spirit and shroud them with sand in the face. Oh, and for months after - maybe years, we will continue on by getting them when they least expect it with IED's... hmm, maybe this guy wasn't as full of shit as I thought he was.

We have 5 (count em) FIVE players in the NFL - up from 4 last week and nobody has a thing to say about Toby getting another contract. A ninth year punter is a rarety these days guys, there should be at least one or two "atta-boys" in this thread, lol. BTW, our 5 players in the NFL is about 1/3 that of Appalachian State.

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