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I don't care if it has been said multiple times, it wasn't my point. My point was that he moved the needle significantly in the right direction by any standard.

Ok, let's swap RV for every other AD we have had in school history. Boom! HOF worthy. Thanks for the layup.

When RV got here, we only "participated" at the FBS level in athletics. We were battling it out with ULM for least resources of all Division 1 programs that had a football program. Think about that. We were amongst the bottom of the newly formed and poor Sun Belt Conference. Our football team played in debatably the worst stadium with the worst field in all of FBS. Our "athletic center" (coaches offices, weight room, etc.) were in the bowels of said stadium. The field had a track around it, so it was also the track and field program headquarters. Our soccer team played their home games at a local park. It might have been at the same local park our softball team played, or maybe they played at the intramural fields? I think the volleyball team played at the old Snake Pit, my apologies to Pits. Swimming and Diving? The old PEB swimming pool. Our tennis team played on the courts next to the Super Pit complete with 1" cracks in the surface. I have no idea where or how the golf team practiced or worked out. The Super Pit, which was the crown jewel of UNT facilities, had bright orange fabric seats that were filthy. As in every single seat had a stain in a color other than the seat was supposed to be. We paid our coaches amongst the worst in the country. We had no "training table". Tailgating was not allowed at football games. RV hired Dodge for $125,000. That was an improvement over Dickey's salary. By the time RV left our HFC was making 7 figures. So, when RV got here, he was battling that kind of apathy. People in RV's position not only have to make the right decisions to move things forward, but they must also convince others with your vision so you can have said money to do the things you want to do. You don't have complete control and autonomy. There was a mindset once upon a time at North Texas that tailgating at football games was a bad idea. That certainly didn't come from an athletic director along the way, right? It probably came from risk management. A university official probably said, "it's not a bad idea since nobody comes to the games anyway so let it be written...no tailgating at football games". RV was effective at starting the ball rolling to where we are now. I am well aware he did not do this alone (thank you to Presidents and BOR members who got it right), but his biggest achievement was getting people to believe we deserved and could do better. Before RV: Fouts, bowels of Fouts, trough urinals (I don't care what #MeanRob thinks he knows, I had a player piss by me during a game at said trough, it did happen), concrete like football playing surface, giant crown on football field, dirty orange seats at the Super Pit, local parks!!!, uneven tennis court surfaces, and a HFC making $85,000/yr.!!!!!!!!!!! After RV: Apogee, green seats in the Super Pit, PEB Natatorium, tennis facility with even surfaces, Lovelace Stadium, Soccer/Track Stadium and offices, academic offices, actual athletic center with weight rooms, offices, and meeting spaces, training table, robust sports medicine, and a HFC making $2MM/year and assistants making enough to not HAVE to make a change every year. The guy is not a God but is a slam dunk for HOF for good reason.

I'm not trying to be combative, but I don't care about that. Run a good program is all I ultimately care about. If he's the next great orator of college football coaches, then great. I'm not going to lose sleep if he isn't.

I'm talking athletes, not mathletes. Both are fine schools. My point is NOT NEAR ENOUGH PEOPLE give a crap about football there, not even themselves. It is truly shocking to see the apathy. Take a look at attendance each game for each school. Their attendance counters and the SMU attendance counter are cousins by the way. As far as butts in seats my guess is that both Cal and Stanford were under 25K for the year.

Do you really think Tulsa and Tulane are going to put more of our fans in Apogee? Yes, they are a more attractive opponent than Arkansas State or Southern Miss. Are Temple and South Florida moving the needle in Denton? No, they aren't. Navy might be the only team we MIGHT see each season (depending on whatever conference scheduling the new AAC adopts) that puts a few extra buts in seats. I see what you are trying to say but let's look at who we played against 10 years ago vs who will be our conference mates next year. There is a big difference, or at least I think so. Ark State vs. Memphis ULM vs. Tulane UL vs. SMU Troy vs. UAB FIU vs. USF MTSU vs. Rice WKU vs. UTSA USA vs. Tulsa Anyone we shared a conference with vs. Navy How much increase? I don't know, 1-2k maybe? It's a lot better for sure but it certainly doesn't fix our attendance by itself.

I think you are a little off base there.

The Big XII will poach the PAC, not the other way around. I've paid close attention to that conference since I attended the football game against Cal and the 15K people who cared to show up. Now that USC and UCLA are gone, here is the list of good vs not so good properties. Attendance at the not so good's is abysmal. Good: Oregon, UW, Utah, and the Arizona Schools. Not so good: Oregon State, Washington State, Cal, Stanford and Colorado. I see Arizona and Arizona State being poached by the Big XII.

Both should show substantial increase for adding football alone which will skew the numbers but I'd still like to know as well.

1) SMU 2) UTSA 3) CJK5H

Queen is gonna queen.

Is that Chase Baine from Lake Dallas?

I've bolded the teams I think have little chance to win again. I still refuse to put Nebraska on that list until their attendance starts to drop significantly.

No, NOT AT ALL. And the NCAA still had nothing to do with furthering these actions.

You completely missed the point. If a guy is FCS and can ball we need him and the fact he is FCS is not a detractor. The last guy we got from ACU worked out pretty damn well.

Prospect with a can't-miss combination of football character, skill and physical traits who is more likely to contend for immediate playing time for the Mean Green. His strength and flexion allow him to drop a deep anchor. He can be too mechanical, engaging in cursory contact rather than using his hands to whip the man in front of him quickly. He is an instinctive rusher, assailing the pocket with a non-stop barrage of activity. His hands are skilled and efficient to grease the edge while fluid counter steps open inside paths to the pocket. He needs to add a few more items to his rush menu in order to maintain his rush production against Division 1 tackles. He is scheme versatile and should be a very good starter with a very high floor, but his ceiling might not be as elevated as some of the talent he's been compared to.

The FCS transfers don't bother me a bit. There are plenty of guys playing FCS that can excel at this level. There were 18 FCS players that were just drafted.

Lol I don't think you know how this works. The Supreme Court ruled that the NCAA was violating anti-trust laws by restricting athlete compensation. The NCAA, like you, thinks this is a slippery slope and harmful to amateurism.

"NCAA is successfully destroying themselves/amateur athletics." How is this the fault of the NCAA?

I just gave this fellow another content idea including the great Darrell Dickey - The infamous "Black Uniform" game. Let's see if he runs with it.

We played at the Denton ISD facility the spring Fouts was torn down and Apogee was still under construction.

The DB offer was from Texas…Tech. Riley was offered at UT as an athlete.

That's precisely the reason we'll never get into the American.

The great Brad Kassel.

I just got 5 for family and friends.