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I saw the wole thing too. I too thought it was Jackson. I have never been so pissed at a North Texas player. I have never been so pissed at a coaching staff for the total lack of discipline all season long. I have had it with this staff. I would like to point out we would be 0-11 if not for the 13 turnovers in our two "wins".

I am hearing most of the rain will be south of I-20. Let's hope!

Ok Mr. Denver, since you are seated close to the prospects every year do you have any general/specific observations? Has there been a difference this year from the last few years? And BTW, who IS the coach?

Hey there witman mayo, it's been a long time since you have bashed the Tic. Besides the obvious, what is your problem with Vanilla? It seems like it is real personal with you.

Those are some slutty lesbianesque squirrels let me tell you! They are welcome back to our tailgate anytime! WooHoo!

And guess what, that was totally unacceptable then and totally unacceptable now. Continuing that B.S. could have killed the program. I suggest we are further behind now than we were then in terms of on field performance. I have been concerned about recruiting since that great class we had in 2000. Status Quo won't do. We MUST improve and do better. That is how it works in the competitively charged world of college athletics. Just because we "improved" the last few years does not mean we are even close to being "healthy". Just curious, what are your expectations of our football program?

Is it possible that NT can spoil the Sun Belt's chances to field a bowl team? I hope not but there is a part of me that says "if North Texas isn't going, nobody's going!" Here's to playing the spoiler role!

DD as coach?

Get a freaking clue people. RF charged an older fan and acted like a total ass-clown. We should expect and demand better. BTW, as an aside, his girlfriend acted about the same way on the deck 5 years ago. Remeber that Stebo?

Learn that from RF?

No.

Uh, we just lost 56-3. Is that how far our expectations have fallen? Yes, we had some decent drives. We still lost 56-3. Are we now relegated to seeing positives on specific drives and individual performance when we don't score a touchdown? I guess we are because I did. Losing 56-3 is a bad, bad loss. But hey, if you see nothing negative in this-good for you. I saw some positives but a whole lot more negatives like not having a chance when we stepped onto the field. This just isn't the LSU's of the world but the La. Tech's and Tulsa's. We are bad, bad, bad. We are Ball State/Buffalo/Idaho/NMSU bad. This program needs a serious shot in the arm.

I saw some positives. Some, not many. Positives: Meager looked much better. I hope he was throwing all those balls out of bounds on purpose. JT looked better, almost back to his old self. There were times during the game I was saying to myself "here we go again to the N.O. Bowl". God I hope not this year. The OOC loses have just been too non-competitive. Negatives: I watched this game with my father and he said on more than one ocasion that "Dickey is a F*$%*&^ idiot". This is a guy that doesn't follow NT football. Defense was just plain bad. OL How bad is it when we are looking for positives (and seeing them) in another complete blowout of a game? This year is the worst we have been since our return to 1-A. I'll give DD a flyer on not winning the SBC this year but I don't give him a flyer on putting this program in this bad of shape. What in the hell has happened?

A whole new meaning to bitch slap. Way to go soccer chicks.

How could your forget the landmark win against Arkansas State in 1990?

Is three and out considered a "drive"? I see the lack of sustaining-back-breaking-demoralizing-time comsuming drives we have had in the past. Now that was cool! You would just see the opponents wilting after 2 or 3 of those. Then it became a PC or JT track meet. DD has made mention a few times in his press conferences about the lack of first downs. If I had to guess we would have a higher number of "drives" this year. Not a good thing with the offense we run. Quality, not quantity.

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Good post Stebo and I agree with the one year "get out of jail free card." I have a close friend who joined the Mean Green Club this year and after the Troy game was thinking that by not showing up to anymore games and recinding his Mean Green Club membership would be "sending a clear message." I disagreed with him and pointed out that few fans in the stands supporting a team with a poor record was not nearly as powerful as a ton of fans in the stands supporting that same team with a poor record. He agreed. Lots of support (by showing up) puts positive pressure on the program to succeed. Don't get me wrong-I think there is a multitude of problems right now. I appreciate the hard work the coaches and players put in but this just is not cutting it. What is the real problem? I don't know for sure but I have a pretty good idea. I know for sure that what really matters are the fans. A packed Fouts Field will get us to where we all want to be. We would be in CUSA right now with better attendance, not a better team. Kinda the chicken and the egg thing. The coaches may slip, the AD may slip, the BOR might slip but we as fans cannot. We must show up to the games. More fans=more better things for good ole UNT. If you want the program to succeed then show up. If you don't like what is going on then complain appropriately-but still show up. So far this year the fans are the only one's pulling their weight around here. I was expecting terrible attendance at the Troy game but the UNT faithful got it done. OK, I give the AD some slack because of what he is up against. Coaches, BOR, Presidents, AD's come and go. Some players come and go and some come back as fans. Some players parents come and go and some keep coming back as fans. I just comes down to this-the fans matter most. You can always go out and get the other components but it is us-the fans-who ultimately matter. Adler is spot on about the players and coaches acknowledging the fans. It says so much about what is broke around here.

We win all the games against less than D1 squads. We win 2 games we shouldn't against superior competition on their court-Hope for gain and then... We lose 4 games we shouldn't against crappy directional schools and mediocre to bad Sun Belt teams-back to reality and then... We start talking football again. 14-14 is my guess. It sucks to be a mediocre Sun Belt team. Good news is things can change in a hurry in basketball. Maybe, just maybe this is our year. I have seen people show up in droves at the Super Pit to watch competitive Mean Green teams. That was a long, long time ago.

Great point. It would be a herculean task to compete with a festival in Juarez. I'm glad we only compete against MLB, NBA, NHL, NFL and Nascar. Do these festivals include donkeys?

No that my freind was funny.

We are that bad. Eight freaking turnovers we get and we win by 3-only because FIU missed a FG late in the 4th. This is so stinkingly bad. I am sitting here incredulous at our ineptness. How can this be? After four conference championships? After the new, improved facilities? The penalties, the ineffective offense? Our luck DD will win the SBC again (unimpressively I might add) and we are stuck with him another decade. Can't he just go away? This just palin sucks. Yes, I said that after a win.

We are playing a 4th year team, with HORRIBLE facilites, with 7 turnovers and we are up 3 midway in the fourth. Check that, Monroe int for turnover #8. Another penalty for the Mean Green on the return. Good God this is horrible. Has any team EVER lost when getting 8 turnovers?

Ya know Harry, I will be at every home game if we got beat by a hundred. I am worried about the health of the program when we are consistently getting beaten BADLY by OOC foes and Joe Blow fan determines North Texas Football is bad boring football. Love him or hate him, DD isn't doing us any favors in attendance. So many people are put off by what they are seeing on the field. They expect to see exciting college football and are not getting it. I have talked to many casual fans in the parking lot after the games and they are TOTALLY put off by what they saw. Most won't be back. It is that bad. The truth hurts sometimes. Thank goodness for the most kickass tailgate in the country!

Dissapointed? Yes. Appropriate to start asking questions about our offense? No, never. Well, if you have played college ball maybe. But unless you have have played college ball you are not allowed to have an opinion about football-basically relegating you to cheerleader status. Since I have never been the Presidient of the United States, I will relinquish my right to vote. I am a true Mean Green fan. So, give more money and shut up to be a true Mean Green fan. Cruel gomeangreen.com jedi mind trick coming up; You only THINK the last two games were horrific blowout loses setting the program back a decade. If you had any REAL football knowledge (which won't be discussed here but attempted) you would know better.