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You would expect UNT to say Mac turned the job down, and SMU response to be that he was never offered the job. The truth may be some where in between. SMU could have reached out to him to determine his level of interest and was told there was none. No real offer from SMU, no real rejection by Mac on an offer he never received, and both universities can spin it anyway they want.

Agreed

Your reasons for staying seem very subjective. It's a mute point since it appears Mac is not in the running, but whats a "nice" raise compared to a $1&3/4 million dollar increase in income. Living in the Park Cities eliminates any commute at all, and the quality of life appears pretty good from the outside looking in. Coaches and their families are used to being uprooted. In fact, if you look at their coaching resumes it looks like they are running from the law. Regarding the green van , it will fit in anywhere. Your mother makes a great point, money can't buy happiness ,but personally I have met more unhappy people without money that those with.

I am not going to compare department by department of the three schools, and really don't know how the three of them compare regarding admission. I do know that the Texas School of Business is very difficult to get into and their law school is ranked ahead of the other two. You answered your own question when you asked why spend the money when you think there are better state options. Obviously one reason to attend a private school is you don't think there are better options.

Guys, my freshman year at NTSU was 1961, and we have come forward light years since then. In sports my two favorite teams are North Texas and who ever is playing the Ponies. Having said that, you can make a number of disparaging remarks about SMU but them being a second a second class school is not one of them.

My 30 years experience in the DFW business community was that in Dallas having a degree from Texas ,Texas A&M, and SMU opened doors. In Ft. Worth it was Texas, Texas A&M, and TCU. All four of these universities have a strong networking system that North Texas does not which, in my opinion, increases the value of their degree if you reside in the Metroplex.

Gee, looks to me that if you are making $2.5 millon a year $30,00 is pocket change. Plus the annual cost for private school in Dallas is closer to $100 ,000. Considering the state of public schools , especially in the cities like Dallas and Ft. Forth, if you have the money and want your kids to get a better education you go private. Doesn't mean you are an idiot.

Agreed. This is not a lateral move, anymore than the Teas Tech coach going to UT.

Agreed. This will end tomorrow but I don't see how money would be an issue.

A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush as my generation used to say. Assuming he is offered the SMU job at $2.5 million in the bird in the hand. So what if next year he has injuries, transfers, etc. and bombs. He is no longer hot.Instead he becomes like Littrell, not.

Guys, you are smoking crack if you think that a coach would turn down $2 million+ a year for 5 years vs $700,000 to do the same job. Would you? When you are hot you grab the brass ring. Remember when Littrell was hot? Regarding loyalty , his loyalty is too his family, not an institution that would have no qualms about showing him the door if things go south. This is a business decision that he may or may not have an opportunity to make. Lets not get our panties in a wad over something we can't control.

LSU is going to get hammered by the NCAA

Other than South Carolina I think most good head coaching jobs have been filled.

Tulsa is a good job with a rich history and a really nice arena.They have good fan support which softened recentlybecause several bad seasons that forced previous coach to resign [ He was head coach at Mizoo and left them for the Canes] I think it is a 7 figure gig plus its a good city to live in.

I saw where the New Mexico State coach was hired by Mississippi State. Just guessing but I would think if Mac is tempted to move it would be to a program in a major conference, not mid major. It is really hard to make the NCAA's in a one or two bid conference.

Love it!

The "going gets tough " comment is inappropriate . The Board of The University of Alabama controls the purse strings to UAB, and never supported their establishment of a football program. A few years ago Bear Bryant's son became chairman of the U of A Board and under his leadership eliminated Blazer football due to budgetary concerns. The biggest sticking point was their use of Legion Field, part of which was condemned as unsafe to use by the city. [My son is a UAB graduate and Legion Field made Foutts Field look like Jerry World]. At any rate , the UAB Administration got up in arms and with support of the Birmingham business community and the city itself, they were able have the U of A Board reverse its previous decision .By then Bear Jr had rolled off the U of A Board and UAB had a beautiful new stadium . {I think the city of Birmingham actually owns the stadium but am not sure. My son and I are attending the UNT/UAB game in October in order to see the new stadium] Regarding La. Tech being a classier act, they snubbed their noses at ULL and ULM, and even refused to play Monroe in the Independence Bowl in Shreveport about a decade ago. As a result, when the Sun Belt recently expanded their spokesperson said that the Belt already had two teams in Louisiana and a third would be redundant. Pay back can be a real bitch.

Unlike football, head basketball coaches schedule their own OOC games.

You were correct. Just comparing football conferences.

Dumb question. I was referring to PAC 12 football vs CUSA. I grew up in FT. Worth in lower middle class neighborhood and choices were either sign up for the draft [1961] or North Texas State. [ minimum wage was 75 cents an hour, tuition was $5 an hour plus $2.50 lab fee.]If I had it to do over again I would have gone into military and then college. What about you? Daddy have enough money for out of state tuition?

Our football glory years were in the 60's and 70's when the SEC and SWC were segregated and if a black athlete wanted to play in Texas NTSU was their primary option.

They see coaches move to perceived better opportunities and do the same. It's no different from you or I moving to a better job. I certainly would trade UCLA for UNT.

I wasn't comparing programs nor investments .Their new arena is equivalent to us replacing our men's gym with the Super Pitt.There were posts about TCU's stadium and I just thru UTA into the mix. However, if the Super Pit is so good [ and I am not saying it isn't although practices are a problem] why is a new dedicated basketball arena on Wren's master plan? Just to look good on paper next to our proposed baseball park?

Well, UNT is in Denton, and the Cougars are in Houston. Big difference in media coverage, access to alumni with deep pockets, and huge population. While they were in the SWC, AAC, and now Big 12, we were in Southland, Big West, Sun Belt, and ACC. I don't think we are comparing apples to apples with Houston in the conversation, and probably in another decade or so UTSA . While the Roadrunners have no success in basketball and very little in football they have a large city to draw fans and money from, and this years football team got very good media coverage . We seem to be doing a better job with fans in Dallas, but I don't understand why we have made little if any inroads into the Ft. Worth market. Our medical school partnership with TCU dissolved in January with the Horned Frogs going it alone. Perhaps a satellite campus is something to consider to increase visibility as well as fill a academic need.

Looks to me we are back to the question what do we want, what do we need, and what are we willing to pay for. We want a new arena, we need a new practice facility , we are starting from scratch to raise money unless there is a major donor on the $15 million range that we are unaware of. While the Super Pitt is too large, in my opinion it works as a basketball game venue but not for every day use. Life being a compromise I would opt for a new practice facility which certainly should be more attainable that a new 7,000 seat arena.[ While you are looking at arenas, check out UTA's new 7,000 seat arena.]