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How does he keep his job? One winning season with his predecessor's kids, complains about attendance to deflect from his record, can't recruit, picked nearly last in the west after 4 seasons. Hoe do he do it?

As my mother used to say," if you can't sing well,sing loud", which sums up our football program.

Since the Health Science Center is owned by the state, I don't see how UNT can sell it even if they wanted to, which they don't. On paper, it looks like a good marriage, as D.O. programs are going the way of the buffalo.

Houston should be best of the rest,SMU could be. Our focus should be on our program and ways to increase attendance. In my business experience, increased sales solved most problems. In football, increased wins should increase attendance. However, I see little in any difference between Mac's offense and Dickey's, hence our inability to recruit top quarterbacks and receivers. High schools today play a different game that they did 15 years ago, but we are stuck in the past. Time to replace Mac.

We need "A" rival with school that considers us rivals. I can't remember one of any length since my freshman year of 61'.I'm an old man,so some one please refresh my memory.

I doubt SMU will be invited to join a power conference, but agree that their athletic program and fundraising is light years ahead of ours. Besides, it takes 2 schools to make a rivalry,and I only see North Texas interested. To say otherwise reminds me of U. Conns recent announcement that they have created one complete with trophy with UCF without asking them if they are" all in." Since this was the 1st that they had heard of it, they declined.Personally, I would like to see UNT's athletic program mirrow ULL.They have had more success with limited resources than any program I am aware of.

While not in a large market, ULL would bring a lot to CUSA in terms of its overall athletic program.

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I don't know where those 30k and 40k fans per game played.We just had the 2 sides of Fouts, and didn't play in either the Cotton bowl or Texas stadium until 1971 Also,we were 8&2 in 68',7&3 in 69', and 3&8 in both 70' and 71'. The last year during Rod Rust's era that we won the MVC was 1967 with a record of 7-1-1. The only year I find that we were ranked in division 1 was 1977 under Hayden Fry. We were 9&2 and ranked 16th in nation.[later Miss. St. had to forfeit a 2 point victory so out official record was changed to 10&1].

Lake Bridgeport down about 22'

I have slept since then, but I think there was an attendance requirement.In addition, I don't know what conference options at the 1A level were available to us. Also, an alumni donated 1$million for the 10,000 aluminum seats that never felt a butt.

I always thought she should have been given her 20th year.

Any idea why Peterson bombed? He was a head coach in a major conference. Just asking.

Harry, I am just an old fan and not interested in a leadership position.[not that you were offering] However, I made a good living in Health Care Sales for over 30 years,and know what a good product is.Our basketball program, especially women's, is not now nor has ever been with a few exceptions.[ We were lucky to have Ashton for one season.] Johnny put out good teams, went to NCAA twice, but averaged only 3,500 fans in his best seasons. That's not exactly demonstrating to prospective coaches that we are a basketball hot bed. Regarding football, I see no reason why we shouldn't dominate CUSA West, but we don't. My point is that perception can become reality, and if North Texas is really a good job for a head coach, why do we hire who we do? And if its not, what can we do to change that perception? I don't think my attitude is defeatist , but then again I am not looking thru rose colored glasses.

Some of us need to get real about the allure of coaching either men's or women's basketball at North Texas. Looks to me your options are an assistant on the way up or a head coach on the way down. We are not a destination, but rather a stop. The same might apply to football as well. Just because we have interest in someone doesn't mean they have any interest in us. "Mac" says its a hard place to recruit players, but its probably just as hard to get coaches.

ESPN Events owns 11 bowls to date. I don't know who is financially backing the proposed new bowls, but it has to be cheaper to own the t.v. rights than pay for them.

Unless you can get a 2 for 1, it's hard to get a big name to come to Denton. We are scheduling one game at home per year against the likes of Lamar, which is what Texas does against the likes of North Texas. In addition, we always will need to play at least one money game on the road for budget purposes.T.C.U.,Baylor, Kansas State,and Tech no longer have an interest in playing us in any sport, just like we no longer play UTA in men's basketball.I would consider Indiana a big name in that they are the only Big Ten school to play us in Denton.The rule of thumb used to be when scheduling OOC was that you played one you should beat, one you could beat, and one you might beat if the stars aligned. With all the money involved with college football today I don't know if that still holds true. What I find interesting is that while the A.D. schedules football, the head basketball coach schedules basketball, which in the last few years has been a joke.

I think ESPN owns Bahamas Bowl, so it will probably live. With 2 in 3 teams playing in bowls, pressure is really on those who don't.

Great post by UNTDOUBLEALUM.Also thanks to All About UNT for correcting my error in attributing battle flag to Virginia instead of Army of Tennessee.Thats what I enjoy about history, and if I am an American of color I would be offended about what I consider not to be a source of southern pride but of slaver. The south had a cast system simular to England, and if they had won the war I probably would be pumping gas.

The flag shown by K.A.'s in your picture is not the Confederate flag but instead is the battle flag of The Army of Northern Virginia. The Confederate flag was simular to the North's "Stars and Stripes" except that it was "Stars and Bars". Because they looked so much alike at a distance, some Confederate armies flew the battle flag in an effort to prevent confusion. Early in the was many southern armies wore blue uniforms that had been worn by state military units, so "friendly fire" was not uncommon.

I doubt SMU considers UNT a rival in anyway possible.

We have only been competitive in women's basketball[in my memory] when Judy Nelson coached in the 80's. Our attendance hovers in the low, and I mean low 100's. I think its going to be a hard sell.

Were we allowed to join CUSA with the requirement that we add baseball within a specified time or did I just dream it?

UAB is NOT bringing back football, and should get the boot.The Sun Belt needs another basketball program to make it an even dozen and would be a great fit. Moving on......

In 1961, my freshman year,Charles Johnson was men's basketball coach. In the 54 seasons since then we have been thru 11 coaches who had a combined 16 winning seasons.Johnny Jones,R.V.'s hire, was responsible for 6 of them. While I personally would not have hired an "assistant head coach", I am content in seeing his 4th year play out. Just saying....