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From what podcasts I have seen we are not even in the conversation. However that could change depending upon how many teams the PAC 6 wants in Texas. It could be an either or choice between UTSA and Texas State as most pod casters don't know how close the two schools are to each other . Then we might slide in because the media size of DFW. If both Tulane and Memphis move our chances are determined as to what size the PAC 6 wants to get to, 10 or 12 football programs. If 10 we might be passed over , if 12 maybe not.

So Podcasts from the the rockies and west coast are saying that an 8 team conference won't work because of the difficulty in scheduling 5 non conference games every year and that the PAC 6 will move to 10 and possibility 12 schools. Looking at adding 4 programs those mentioned high on their list are Tulane, Memphis, and UTSA. Next mentioned are Texas State, New Mexico, and UNLV. Very few believe that Tulane and Memphis will move to the PAC but if they do that leaves at least 2 other schools for consideration. UTSA is a slam dunk and one big thing that they have going for them is they don't have an NFL team in San Antonio to compete with. Texas State is getting some love but I feel that they actually share the same market with UTSA just as UNT does with SMU and TCU. If the PAC 6 agrees there may be an invitation for UNT as travel partner for UTSA. The bottom line is that if Tulane and Memphis agree to move then the PAC 6 wants a bridge in Texas which may only include UTSA. However if Tulane and Memphis decline invitations from the PAC 6 our chances for inclusion should increased if 10 or 12 is the magic number. Who knows?

They need at least 10 teams for scheduling purposes as with only 8 trying to schedule 5 non conference is a non starter.

I doubt it. Football is driving this otherwise UTSA and Texas State would not be in the conversation. However if baseball was the only thing between us and the PAC 6, and if a move was really financially beneficial, we would probably agree to add baseball in the next 5 years or so at which time we might be able to weasel out agreement of actually add a team.

One game should not make a difference. Assuming that the PAC 6 needs to get to 10 teams in order to avoid having to schedule 5 non conference games with an 8 team conference, and that Tulane and Memphis see no advantage in moving from one G6 conference to another,UNT might get an invitation along with UTSA, who appears to be a lock. Also adding the AFA to the AAC might be because the conference expects to be poached by the PAC 6 and is simply being proactive as well as having all 3 service schools in the same conference. However the AFA could wants to join as football only similar to Army and Navy parking their other sports in the Big Sky conference. Fun times.

The main reasons conferences add teams in today's market are if they must have them, such as the PAC 6 and perhaps the MWC, and if they bring value to their media contract at least equal to what share they would receive. The AFA might do that for the AAC, although the renewal of the AAC media agreement will probably take a hit with the loss of Houston, UCF,and Cincinnati.

Dam those Red Raiders! They called off the dogs at halftime preventing them from scoring 100 points and having UNT crack the top 80.

Cool Beans! Is this your personal van?

It seems like every football conference we are in we want out of with out having won anything except for the early years of the Sun Belt over 20 years ago. If we have an opportunity to move to PAC 6 for double our money great otherwise let's just try to be competitive in the AAC.

Good point!

After missing a short field goal everything that could go wrong for UNT did go wrong. We are not that bad and TT is not that good. This is football , and when bad things happen a game can snowball down hill in a hurry. I am optimistic that we will turn things around Saturday.

What I don't understand is all the love for Teas State. They had a decent football season last year and off to a good start this year but like UTSA do nothing in other sports. While I realize football is the driving force behind the PAC's expansion it's not like Texas State has a large following or successful history in football since moving up from 1AA.Their attendance and student body are similar to UNT and proximity to San Antonio is comparable to ours to DFW. However in looking at some of the P4 schools some of their players transferred in from I am guessing [and its only a guess] that they have more money for NIL. Also C Rod is probably correct in his post regarding the cost to the PAC after buying the 4 best MWC schools might have them looking hard at the AAC for additional programs. It also has been reported the Tulane,Memphis, and SFU have little interest on moving from one G6 program to another, especially since the PAC doesn't have a media contract. However I have demonstrated that I am clueless regarding realignment as I just can't seem to accept geography no longer matters. It's one thing for your football team to fly cross country 6 times a year. Its another for your other sports. Oh well.

All the pod casts say UTSA, Texas State, UNT, and Rice if the PAC 6 enters Texas. If they stay closer to home its UNLV, SJSU, and New Mexico. I am just providing information with no opinion.

The AAC requires a 27 month notice with a $10 million exit fee. Anyone think we have the money to move to the PAC 6? Also the PAC 6 doesn't have a media rights contract so you are betting on a come.

So intramural?

Evidently you didn't travel to Norman to watch us get pounded by OU in the worse UNT game I have ever seen. However this game is looking familiar.

Try 63 years. No wonder we are coming out with both a Mean Green beer and bourbon. If we drink enough it will help us to forget this game.

I am surprised that New Mexico is in the PAC 2 expansion conversation. UTSA appears to be a lock if they expand into Texas. Texas State is getting some noise but they are basically in the same market as the Roadrunners, so UNT could be a good match. The pod cast word is that the PAC 2 is paying $100 million to basically "buy " four MWC schools and don't want to spend anymore hence one of the reasons they have interest in AAC programs. Also the UNLV pod caster said the the Rebels have financial issues in their athletic department plus political problems in trying to separate from Nevada Reno. Also mentioned was that the AFA was passed over because the academies don't participate in NIL and that they possibly might be interested in moving their football program to the ACC and other sports to the Big Sky. However it would cost then $18 million to buy out of the MWC. Finely Sacramento State has a group of businessmen and alumni who has put together a committee to move their program up to 1A status so they might be considered by both the PAC 2, who has stated they are not interested, and the MWC, who has made no comment to date. Surprisingly this committee doesn't, at this point in time,does not have university representation included. Finely,I have no predictions other than the sun will rise tomorrow.

$235 million

Texas State and UTSA are basically in the same market.

It was a good game. ASU was lucky to get out with a win.

Proving that once again that I have never been correct on realignment [ but I keep trying ], new podcasts have thrown out a $100 million value for a 10 team PAC with UNT, UTSA, Rice, and Memphis as potential targets. With a $10 million per school payout that will get any AAC member's attention. At any rate stick a fork in me. I'm through reporting ,guessing, and hoping on what the PAC will do next.

The PAC 2 doesn't want Nevada but the Wolf Pack and UNLV may be locked at the hip by state politicians. I don't know why the AFA wasn't invited unless after getting CSU the PAC 2 doesn't really need another school in Colorado. To me New Mexico doesn't bring anything to the table other that a very poor state with sparse population and no following. If the PAC 2 really wants the best teams in the west it appears to me that UNLV and AFA would fit the bill.

Great response!

The Denver market. Regarding media rights value of the new PAC 6, a former executive of Fox sports who negotiated for before retiring Fox said on a recent podcast that a combination on the PAC 2 and MWC schools would be worth an amount similar to the MWC's current contract. Finely the addition of UNT to the DFW market and Rice to the Houston market hasn't moved the media needle nearly as much as successful athletic programs in much smaller markets. Memphis and Tulane come to mind.