greenminer

I wonder if some of you are already discounting Vizza. Todge didn't recruit Riley, he recruited GV, and admitted this was the guy he would have gone to if he had a whole year. I'll be happy to see Riley come to UNT for a couple reasons, 1) competition only makes people better and 2) top recruits flock together like birds. Remember when Tim Tebow signed with Florida and all those National Top 100 recruits followed him there? I like to think something similar could happen with Riley, our first Rivals State top 100 of the '08 class. The possibility of Riley committing to us certainly makes us more appealing to Kenny Barrett, the top '08 WR oral committ so far. He has made some of us nervous with some of his comments regarding his committment. Hopefully, an oral committ from Riley will secure Barrett. Deep down I'd like to think that some fantastic lineman will follow Riley here and give us some great beef and depth at a position that we traditionally lack in Norman and Austin.

Just as long as it doesn't take SEVEN OTs (ugh), or a sidelined QB to get a few wins this go-round

Well I like your style too, man. Got a whole cowboy thing goin'.

I don't know where Dumpsalot gets that our campus is not attractive? I've always thought it was one of the more beautiful I've ever seen. And it's gotten even better the last 3 years? Am I alone feeling that way?

OK, so we've established "students" (which I never doubted). I just want to know that it's for UNT students, i.e., a DISD kid couldn't come in and show them DHS I.D. and get in for 10 bucks.

What a glorious irony it would be one day when that man says "We're honored just to be on the same field as the Mean Green."

Personally, I'm holding my breathe until I see Vizza. If this kid is as good as some people are claiming, why bother with Riley? ...just trying to ruffle some feathers

We need a thread in memorium of the Buckles/Jones combo. Maybe one for Neon Don's athleticism lol

And if not?

Hey I think I've seen you on Fry!

I don't think you can separate the two. Winning and "brand name" teams (what is that anyways?) go hand in hand. People are going to stop coming if you continue to whip up on the bottom-feeders, and people are going to stop coming if you continually get whipped by brand name teams. Because it only reinforces that we are the bottom feeder. Heck, I sometimes think it's just a matter of winning against a variety in opposition. How would the fans react if we lived in the same Belt for the next 7 years and had the exact same OOC schedule to go with it? If we went 9-3 every year against the Belt, OU, SMU, Baylor, and Navy (splitting those OOC games at home/away), how would the fans feel after 3 or 4 years of that? I don't think any of us can say for sure, but I don't think our attendance would improve. You can't be consistently winning against the same old teams. And you can't sacrifice winning just because you want to boost attendance every year against that "name" team. Maybe our reality is that we've had a little bit of both, but not at the same time? Perhaps that's why it didn't work. PS: I'll take struggling to get 16K fans at a Sun Belt game over struggling to get 1K fans at the Big West games. Lets just keep taking care of the things we can control and hope one day we're struggling to get 40K.

Both sports are full of big plays, fans that appreciate defense/offense. I think the big difference is pace. The nature of American football is that there is time between plays to actually discuss what's going on in the play, what strategies are being implemented, and let the couch coaches speculate what's going to happen next. It's a sense of suspense which is somewhat lacking in soccer. Soccer is just one continuous game, with the rare stoppage due to a penalty kick or yellow/red card. I think it is a matter of preference. I liken soccer to Nascar really: you can sit there and argue about the intricacies of the game and tell yourself that it makes it more exciting, but the casual fan just sees it as a ball being kicked around, or a few cars racing around the same track 400 times. For the record, I'm a huge fan of the World Cup, but it seems to be - as a whole - a matter of pride for your team/country/player? Rather than the actual strategy. I've been to soccer games and Texas Motor Speedway events, both of which the fans actually leave and get drunk for the majority of the game, or until the last 10 laps. Their only regrets occur when there's a freakin' goal or wreck and they miss it. American football captivates the crowd: creates suspense every 35 seconds. There's a reason the concessions are packed in between halves: because people aren't getting up during game play. I'll give you that soccer fans will save some things for the half time, but it's just not the same.

I seem to recall those aforementioned franchises having decades and decades of winning tradition, and thus fans that hopelessly hold on to those memories even during the bad times. We have spats of glorious years throughout our history, but not much of a tradition (especially at the D1 level) to hang our hats on, with the exception of a nice 4 year run through the Belt, which we are 18 losses and 2 seasons removed from. Hopefully some consistent success with Dodge will help erase the aches of the last 2 years from our stomaches.

I'm surprised to hear all this talk about Tune's size, then go to the athletic's website and see him listed under 200 lbs. That seems more ideal, rather than big? Just a thought.

What an odd sequence lol. The QB was rightfully penalized for taunting (spiking = taunting, right?), but that ref missed an outrageous shove the defense gave him (the QB) in anger.

took me a sec to figure this one out

The obvious: win.

I thought mobility was a huge factor for Dodge's qbs, which doesn't bode well for Tune. You're part of the few that think Tune is in the top 2. Personally I think it's between Meager and WW, but whoever wins I will trust they earned it. I never thought of WW as inaccurate, just that he needed to learn to read the routes better.

I just want to reiterate how badass this is. Sometime down the road, if we are in another conference, I hope we can look back at the Belt and appreciate some great times.

I look forward to our D - just as much as the O - surprising a lot of people this year.

indeed. 247 yards and two touchdowns. THAT would get under the Sooners' skin.

Not hard to figure out: click "Direccionies" at the top, scroll down to "LA MICHOACANA MEAT MARKET - LOCATION DALLAS AREA" and I think you'll find what you need any other needed translation I just googled and found this: http://babelfish.altavista.com/

You would think that would be the case. Why am I know so convinced that applies with SMU and Mean Green?

I stand corrected, and my point still stands. I just read Stan's reply above and plugged the number into my response. Thanks for picking on me and not Stan

Lets just focus on getting better.