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It will sell out by EOD Monday. Only SRO available now..

maybe 7,500 lower bowl is approx 36,000 Been going to games for 25 years and I can tell you that the attendance number are correct. Next time you are there you will notice the ticket takers have counters in their hand. Also, the students get in free and are not counted in the attendance #'s. The bowl game uses tickets sold (corporate sponsors etc.), but TCU does not run that. From watching on TV, almost the enitre East side and endzones wer full (18,000). and let's say the lower west side was half full (9,000) that puts you at 27,000.

False. TCU reports actual attendance figures. What you read as the attendance is the attendance.

But better than the #2 SEC team?

neither does Florida, OU, Texas or USC

Well, TCU is going to finish in the top 10...... Not sure if i believe that guy as we get lots of trolls on our board.

This is all pretty true......except TCU is not going to increase the enrollment. Applications have increased significantly in the past few years which in change leads to a more selective admission standard. For a couple of years they increased the size of the freshman class, but it wasn't significant at all. They decided to cap the freshman class size where it currently is. Personally, i wish they would increase the size to 10k. Our attendance woes aren't necessarily a result of no regional rivals. The fact of the matter is/was that UH , Rice, SMU, Tulsa and Tulane didn't bring fans to Fort Worth and TCU fans don't get that excited to play them in return. If we could ever get our marquee games against BYU and Utah on a saturday it would make a big difference.

I think a new stadium or serious upgrades could do wonders for the UNT program. I like that TCU is trying to preserve history and for some reason I like the nostalgia of older stadiums. Something about going places that have history appeals to me more so than new stadiums like SMU's. Don't get me wrong, new stadiums are nicer and more fan friendly, but watching a game where Sammy Baugh, Davey O'Brien, Bob Lilly, Jim Swink and Ladainian Tomlinson played adds to the experience for me.

This gift is in addition to the endzone suites that are currently under construction. The overall plan is leave the lower half of the lower bowls as they are......leave the field the same..........add a new press box, add suites or club level seats under the top deck. Obviously, the restrooms and concession stands need to be upgraded in major way. This will reduce capicity by 4,000 to 42,000 seats Webcam for endzone project.

Not to defend SMU because I do truly despise them, but until last year all potential SMU recruits had to be accepted academically into the university before they were allowed to actually be recruited and partake in visits. This was a result of the death penalty. Also, they did not have "majors" that catered to athletes until last year as well. They supposedly have removed these restriction with the new athletic regime in order to be more competitive in football and basketball.

I was pleasantly surprised by the size of the crowd for the bowl game. It was a great atmosphere. The funny thing is that when TCU and Houston were in CUSA together, UH would bring maybe 1,000 fans to FW. The games at UH would draw maybe 23,000. Tulane Rice were even worse. SMU doesn't bring near as many fans you think they would.

I think upper level courses

It's definitely one of the better, larger and more popular programs at the school. I think something like 1/3 of the students are business majors. Since I graduated in 1998, you know have to apply and be accepted to the business school in order to take business classes.

Not sure where you got this info, but the business school at TCU is ranked #32 in nation Years in which the following programs were founded: Full-time MBA: 1938 Part-time MBA : 1938 Undergraduate business program: 1884 Executive MBA: 1999 Executive Education (non-degree): 1984 BUSINESSWEEK RANKS TCU’S NEELEY SCHOOL #32 FOR BEST UNDERGRADUATE BUSINESS SCHOOLS 2008 BusinessWeek revealed today the third annual ranking of U.S. undergraduate business programs, and the Neeley School of Business at TCU rose to No. 32 out of 196 schools. Neeley ranked No. 39 last year. The University of Pennsylvania’s Wharton school ranks #1. Neeley ranks 4th for Return on Investment for private schools, the highest ranking undergraduate business school in Texas. Brigham Young, Miami and Cornell are 1-3, respectively. Return on investment was determined by the average salary per tuition dollar. TCU's tuition for 2007-2008 was $24,865, and the median starting salary of Neeley graduates was $50,000. Neeley graduates' average salaries per tuition dollar was $2.01, according to BusinessWeek. Neeley ranks 10th for Hardest Working Students, again the highest among Texas undergraduate business schools. Finally, TCU’s business school ranks 33rd for undergraduate Internships. Neeley’s Teaching Quality grade is A; Facilities and Service grade is A+, and Job Placement grade is A. BusinessWeek uses nine distinct measures, including surveys of 80,000 business majors and more than 600 corporate recruiters, the median starting salaries for graduates, and the number of graduates each program sends on to the preeminent MBA programs. They also calculate an academic quality score by combining SAT scores, faculty-student ratios, class size, the percentage of students with internships, and the number of hours students spend on class work each week. The Neeley School of Business makes up about one-third of TCU’s undergraduate population. Bill Moncrief, senior associate dean for undergraduate programs, says: “We know we have an outstanding undergraduate program even without this high ranking, because our applications increase each year. Rankings such as BusinessWeek’s raise our profile. Students are taking notice of TCU for undergraduate business education, and are making smart choices about business degrees and careers.” The nationally ranked Neeley School of Business at TCU focuses on personal development, vital connections and real experiences. High functioning classrooms and calculated career development give students the platform to succeed. Renowned faculty, major corporations and leading executives connect to share winning business practices. Students work for real clients to solve critical challenges. Neeley is consistently recognized among the best business schools in the country by The Wall Street Journal, BusinessWeek, Forbes, Fortune, US News & World Report and The Princeton Review. From skills and strategies to team dynamics and global expeditions, we make sure Neeley graduates are trailblazing business leaders – each in their own individual way.

I haven't heard anything about it. That's some serious front door service for dropping off a date.

Most in Fort Worth are hoping for an SMU turn around with June Jones as the rivalry as been lacking a spark the last 8 years. There have been plenty of times when I wished we would drop the rivalry (especially 2005) and pick up a game with UNT. If June Jones doesn't turn SMU around, I honestly feel that the TCU administration might consider dropping the rivalry. It's not like they bring a ton of fans to Fort Worth (nor did Rice, Houston, Tulane or Tulsa). That is one of the reasons we left for the MWC. Yes, there are regional rivalries, but the fan apathy at those schools is pathetic. Also, stability was another factor. A CUSA-W division consisting of 5 private schools is destined for failure (see SWC). We thought the MWC was more stable for the long run with schools like BYU and Utah being the anchors.

Date Opponent (record) Result Score Site 9/21/2002 vs. North Texas (8-5) W 16 10 9/1/2001 @ North Texas (5-7) W 19 5 11/13/1999 vs. North Texas (2-9) W 27 3 10/17/1987 vs. North Texas (non-IA) W 19 10 10/18/1986 vs. North Texas (non-IA) L 20 24 10/19/1985 vs. North Texas (non-IA) W 14 10 10/20/1984 vs. North Texas (non-IA) W 34 3 9/28/1935 vs. North Texas (non-IA) W 28 11 9/29/1934 vs. North Texas (non-IA) W 27 0 9/30/1933 @ North Texas (non-IA) W 13 0 9/17/1932 vs. North Texas (non-IA) W 14 2 9/19/1931 vs. North Texas (non-IA) W 33 6 9/20/1930 @ North Texas (non-IA) W 47 0 11/2/1929 vs. North Texas (non-IA) W 25 0 10/4/1919 vs. North Texas (non-IA) W 14 6 11/2/1918 vs. North Texas (non-IA) W 39 0 9/26/1914 vs. North Texas (non-IA) W 40 0 We already play SMU every year and that is not going to change. The fact that both UNT and SMU are non-bcs schools is probably the biggest factor as to why TCU, SMU and UNT don't play each other every year. This is unfortunate, but the reality is that we have to schedule BCS schools to make up for our preceived "weak" conference. Our OOC scheduling philisophy is 1. SMU 2. Gimme 3. 50/50 4. Underdog For instance, this year its SMU SFA Stanford OU So, basically it leaves us one OOC game per year for teams from non-bcs conferences. TCU doesn't want to waste opportunites playing national BCS teams by scheduling two local non-bcs rivalry games a year. It's unfortunate what three little letters (BCS) can do to the reputation of a team and conference.

You probably won't see LoJo in a Frog uniform again. He was actually kicked off the team a week prior to the rape allegation for other reasons. The other reasons are not specified, but some think he was skipping practice and failing to show up for workouts.

It definiteley depends on how your season ends up, but anytime a non-bcs team beats a BCS powerhouse at their place, it helps with the credibility and respectiblity on many levels. Unfortunately for non-bcs teams its an all or nothing mind frame. You have to go undefeated to make a BCS bowl game.......so really anything less than that is considered mediocre by most of america.

As a TCU fan being in this situation..........beating OU by far outweighs beating SMU. Our joy after this victory was greater than our dissppointment after the SMU loss. Even with the loss to SMU the following week, the OU win does far more for your program than a "fluke" loss to SMU. OU coming off of back to back national championship appearances, top 5 ranking, in Norman, first non-confernce home loss since TCU beat them in 1997. Yes, the SMU loss cost us a BCS spot (which we didn't know would do at the time) and was devastating, but ripping off 10 consecutive wins and ending up in the top 25 was pretty impressive as well. There is a reason only 1 team ends the season undefeated every year.......its nearly impossible no matter who you play.

Fran didn't sign Tomlinson, Pat Sullivan did...........

I agree.......It doesn't matter how much talent you have, if you can't coach, you can't coach. Sullivans first year at TCU, we beat Texas. We won share of the SWC in 94/95. LT didn't actually play full time until his jr. year and Sully was already gone. Fran should be thanking his lucky stars that LT was at TCU when he came aboard.

He recruited LaDainian Tomlinson as well as Aaron Schobel who starts at DE for the Bills.

new board looks good!

I see, so the new stadium is going to be built at entirely new site.