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And a great article about New Orleans. http://www.slate.com/id/2125352/

http://www.sunherald.com/mld/sunherald/12524309.htm Photo galleries of Mississppi. Amazing stuff.

I'm aware of that. But I'm not sure the entire MS would've been as devestated. She was a big storm, but Gulport to NO is about 80 miles west. They would've been more on the outer fringes of the hurricane winds(which were about 105 miles from the eye). So more like 100mph winds and 12ft storm surge instead of 145 and 25ft.

Honestly, I think this may be worse. MS would mostly have been spared and New Orleans woulda had a quick death. It 's the difference from a shot to the heart and bleeding to death for NO. Which is really more traumatic?

Thanks Rick...

I'm against them shooting the looters...but not because I think it's "okay". There are still hundred, maybe thousands of ppl that need to be saved from the flood water. I'm more concerned with getting every available person helping with the rescue effort - including law enforcement. Maybe the looters will drown.

Ponchatran just breached her levee. Whole city at risk.

The boot on LA and the coast of MS(around Gulport) are where we'll see the worst Katrina had. The Weather Channel(not prone to hysterics) reported a storm surge well over 20 feet in Gulfport. Tommorrow when they can get choppers up we'll get a look.

You want chilling....this was sent to the city of NO this morning. If it hit at current intensity it would be the second strongest storm to hit the US in recorded history. Urgent Weather Message for Orleans, LA Top of pageTable of contents for Orleans, LA WWUS74 KLIX 281550 NPWLIX URGENT - WEATHER MESSAGE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NEW ORLEANS LA 1011 AM CDT SUN AUG 28 2005 DEVASTATING DAMAGE EXPECTED HURRICANE KATRINA A MOST POWERFUL HURRICANE WITH UNPRECEDENTED STRENGTH...RIVALING THE INTENSITY OF HURRICANE CAMILLE OF 1969. MOST OF THE AREA WILL BE UNINHABITABLE FOR WEEKS...PERHAPS LONGER. AT LEAST ONE HALF OF WELL CONSTRUCTED HOMES WILL HAVE ROOF AND WALL FAILURE. ALL GABLED ROOFS WILL FAIL...LEAVING THOSE HOMES SEVERELY DAMAGED OR DESTROYED. THE MAJORITY OF INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS WILL BECOME NON FUNCTIONAL. PARTIAL TO COMPLETE WALL AND ROOF FAILURE IS EXPECTED. ALL WOOD FRAMED LOW RISING APARTMENT BUILDINGS WILL BE DESTROYED. CONCRETE BLOCK LOW RISE APARTMENTS WILL SUSTAIN MAJOR DAMAGE...INCLUDING SOME WALL AND ROOF FAILURE. HIGH RISE OFFICE AND APARTMENT BUILDINGS WILL SWAY DANGEROUSLY...A FEW TO THE POINT OF TOTAL COLLAPSE. ALL WINDOWS WILL BLOW OUT. AIRBORNE DEBRIS WILL BE WIDESPREAD...AND MAY INCLUDE HEAVY ITEMS SUCH AS HOUSEHOLD APPLIANCES AND EVEN LIGHT VEHICLES. SPORT UTILITY VEHICLES AND LIGHT TRUCKS WILL BE MOVED. THE BLOWN DEBRIS WILL CREATE ADDITIONAL DESTRUCTION. PERSONS...PETS...AND LIVESTOCK EXPOSED TO THE WINDS WILL FACE CERTAIN DEATH IF STRUCK. POWER OUTAGES WILL LAST FOR WEEKS...AS MOST POWER POLES WILL BE DOWN AND TRANSFORMERS DESTROYED. WATER SHORTAGES WILL MAKE HUMAN SUFFERING INCREDIBLE BY MODERN STANDARDS. THE VAST MAJORITY OF NATIVE TREES WILL BE SNAPPED OR UPROOTED. ONLY THE HEARTIEST WILL REMAIN STANDING...BUT BE TOTALLY DEFOLIATED. FEW CROPS WILL REMAIN. LIVESTOCK LEFT EXPOSED TO THE WINDS WILL BE KILLED. AN INLAND HURRICANE WIND WARNING IS ISSUED WHEN SUSTAINED WINDS NEAR HURRICANE FORCE...OR FREQUENT GUSTS AT OR ABOVE HURRICANE FORCE...ARE CERTAIN WITHIN THE NEXT 12 TO 24 HOURS. ONCE TROPICAL STORM AND HURRICANE FORCE WINDS ONSET...DO NOT VENTURE OUTSIDE! LAZ038-040-050-056>070-282100- ASSUMPTION-LIVINGSTON-LOWER JEFFERSON-LOWER LAFOURCHE- LOWER PLAQUEMINES-LOWER ST. BERNARD-LOWER TERREBONNE-ORLEANS- ST. CHARLES-ST. JAMES-ST. JOHN THE BAPTIST-ST. TAMMANY-TANGIPAHOA- UPPER JEFFERSON-UPPER LAFOURCHE-UPPER PLAQUEMINES-UPPER ST. BERNARD- UPPER TERREBONNE- 1011 AM CDT SUN AUG 28 2005 INLAND HURRICANE WIND WARNING IN EFFECT HURRICANE KATRINA A MOST POWERFUL HURRICANE WITH UNPRECEDENTED STRENGTH...RIVALING THE INTENSITY OF HURRICANE CAMILLE OF 1969. ONSET OF TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS WILL BE AROUND 3 PM THIS AFTERNOON AND PERSIST FOR ABOUT 26 HOURS. HURRICANE FORCE WINDS WILL ONSET AROUND SUNSET TONIGHT IN LOWER PLAQUEMINES PARISH AND SPREAD NORTHWARD BY 3 AM MONDAY MORNING...PERSISTING FOR ABOUT 12 TO 17 HOURS. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS IN EXCESS OF 140 MPH CAN LAST FOR 2 TO 3 HOURS. ONCE TROPICAL STORM AND HURRICANE FORCE WINDS ONSET...DO NOT VENTURE OUTSIDE!

Basically the worst case scenario if a Cat 5 hits NO dead on. I've been obsessed with these storms since I was a kid, and meterologists have always warned of this possibility.

Once again I'd like to say how much I wish I had ESPNU. Nice article on yahoo though.

I'm in. I think I was in the bottom half last year, but I can't honestly remember.

Alot of people don't even get OLN. In fact, it's about to be removed from my cable package(along with about 10 other stations - that are moving to premium status). I'll watch if I can.

It's kind of sad, since the NIT was just as prestigious as the NCAA for years, and even into the late 70's/early 80's was a big deal. But since the NCAA went to 64 schools, the old tourney has been slowly dying. Unfortuntately I think this means within 10 years there will be no more postseason NIT. I do think the preseason one will stick around.

It'll be good to see you too Ms. Dolan.

Okay, I pretty much know where that is, though I've never gone to Palmdale. I hear it's very nice though. I'm in Hollywood, so in LA proper, and very close to downtown.

What part of the LA area do you live in Ken?

Having bonuses contingent on attendance isn't a bad idea actually. I'd say both Dickey and JJ could have some incentive like that in their contract. Hell Villareal too.

Hey folks, since the FB season is about to start I figured I should get back into the posting swing of things(it's just hard for me to get that into the board in-fighting etc. that plagues GMG April-Mid August every year). A bit of slightly off topic news. The NT Exes is trying to co-ordinate with myself and a few other alums out here, a LA Chapter of the organization. I'll let ya know how it goes, but the home office sounds excited. Also, I will be back in town for HC this year (my first since '02). So, if the current Talons membership allow - I'll be throwing some pallets like old times. I look forward to seeing some old friends and meet alot of the board in person. Anyways, here's to a successful season, and another conference title. Scrap'm Eagles - Go Mean Green

I remember, believe me. I had to leave a friend there as collateral once so I could run home to get cash! LOL (Dave if you read these boards, sorry man)

Back in the day my favorite places were Barri's(please tell me it's still there), Sweetwater, Hooya, and the Loophole. I'm gonna try and hit as many as I can next time I roll thru.

Hard to say really. Probably Chris Davis even though I followed most of his career thru audio broadcasts. Followed Ratliffe thru the radio too. My favorite player while I was actually a student was David Miller because he was all we had for acouple of those seasons.

I read a version of The Longest Yard script about a year ago. I could tell it was gonna be pretty lousy.

I thought the Big East was too big anyways. And that was BEFORE all the additions.