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+1, because I'm starting to like Holgorsen. SI.com Holgorsen article

Not too sure about that; the search committee consists of him and President Lane Rawlins; he of BYU, Washington State, Memphis, and a Mormon from Idaho, whose only prominent coach hiring decision was bb coach Calipari at Memphis. Leavitt have anything in common with any of that?

Sorry to wait so long to reply to this, but was wondering if anybody else would. If there's one person (yes, there are probably more) with a worse collegiate head coaching record, it is Joe Avezzano. Joe Avezzano at Oregon State He DID do a great job as ST coach for the Cowboys; just showing that some who don't pan out as a college head coach can have a very bright future indeed. .

Hey, I don't begrudge Dodge not quitting; my wife would kill me if I left $200 big ones on the table. It's RV's job to get the personnel actions right.

Yep. That's what they do in the College of Music: "Sorry (insert name here), but you're just not getting it".

Well...I won't bother rating this post, because after reading it twice, I only became more uncertain as to what you're trying to say. My initial impression, which I guess I'll stick with, is that you're being disingenuous: disingenuous, from the American Heritage Dictionary: Not straightforward or candid; insincere or calculating.First, I find it troubling that you define yourself as "a Dodge fan from the start and still am". Are you not a fan of UNT more than one coach? Will you be around after he (almost certainly) is not? Second, you say that you "want to win, so if a new coach is the answer, then fine by me". I don't recall anyone here saying that just any new coach will be the answer without someone else correcting them, but it seems lame to speak in such broad generalities, Third, you get to your actual premise, which is whether a "new" coach right now would make sense, but can't ever bring yourself to use the term "interim", so that we could all just mentally recall all the existing threads dealing with that topic. Finally, you finish that paragraph; on to the second: Fourth, ask "If TD is let go, who fills his shoes for the rest of this season...Canalas?". Did you ever think you might you might check somewhere like meangreensports.com so as to know that his last name is "Canales" rather than "Canalas"? Fifth, ask "does he stay on as the new head coach or just in the interim?". Does that usually get determined with 5 games to coach? I guess Bill Stewart at West Virginia made a convincing case in one bowl game, but hey, we'd have 5 times that many chances to evaluate Canales or whoever else (Gandy?). Sixth, finally say something in your second paragraph: "If he is not ("the guy from here on out"), then I struggle to find the reason to let TD go right now", so... To your final paragraph: Seventh: "I mean, we're freakin 1-6". That's the part I find most disingenuous, trying to justify retaining someone as coach (through the end of the season, or however long your status as his "fan" lasts?) by citing his (typical) 1-6 record so far this year. Eighth: "Hopefully we can finish the season 2-10 or by miracle 3-9. I don't know if switching coaches right now REALLY improves our chances of winning games this year". So, your "hope" is for one more win, with a schedule including two teams with first year coaches WKU and ULM. Would a "miracle" at 3-9 then justify retaining Dodge or whoever might be the "interim" (or our "new" coach), however you can bring yourself to frame it? Ninth: "Again, if Canalas is the guy and he keeps most of the staff intact, then I see the reasoning. If not, then why not let the current crew finish the year and clean house after the season is over?" Again, wouldn't we know something about whether he or another assistant were "the guy" if given a chance to prove themselves? Or, can you only frame a question in such a way as to only consider two extremes, thinking a "new (not interim) coach" being only considered if he is "the guy" would seem so unattractive that we would all embrace this status quo because "I don't know if switching coaches right now REALLY improves our chances of winning games this year". Man, how would you or anyone else REALLY KNOW that, especially if was not at least attempted. Tenth: "Thoughts?" I think you don't realize that even the POSSIBILITY of a win or two or three might mean a lot to the current players, students, and those who attend games. Anyone who still thinks this team doesn't need at least some HOPE of a few wins in this season didn't look at their faces as they went into the stadium last Saturday. Also, I think you're such a Dodge fan that you hold out hopes that, by some double miracle, he wins those 4 games some other "Dodge to the end" fan was saying as the minimum win threshold for him to return next year, and that the powers that be decide to bring him back for year 5. Also, I feel bad for writing such things as this about you, with your cute little kid avatar, but I tell myself I'm not against you, just the arguments(?) you've presented, just as I have nothing against (and great respect for) Coach Todd Dodge. It's just time to realize that this was not meant to be.

+1, but I'd like to know who Jerry Luis is.

Well, there's your problem. Attendance is terrible, but those inside can't bring themselves to make any noise one way or the other. Inside Fouts or out in the parking lot, people who have at least brought something to the game day experience should be given some credit, rather than just being called out. KingLD1 made the day for a lot of folks. We need more like him.

I was thinking the same thing. Honestly, whoever we have as our next head coach, we have to give them a free hand in hiring their assistants and building a program, otherwise it never seems to work. However, I'd make one exception: ask them not to talk about bowl games at their first press conference.

Why not? We spot everybody else 7.

I still think folks are missing the even more obvious, we need someone to do a HELL of a lot better than Dodge.

Not until they beat Texas.

Problem is, we need to win a LOT more than 6 games in the next 4 years. Remember trhis; even pro COACHING experience hasn't made them happy at A&M, nor did it at Nebraska. College coaching requires specific skill sets.

And that's about all I have to say about that.

After what I saw last night, I'll raise you $80!

+1...and what is the best way to get this started in a way that makes a difference?

I have thought about him; have wondered what he's done since leaving Clemson.

Don Henley was quoted in the North Texan interview a few years ago saying words to the effect that "my education in the North Texas English Department is perfect for me". That's probably better than Norah Jones quoted in the Texas Monthly saying something like "I didn't realize how much I missed country music until I moved from Denton to New York City". Do we really want to hear Dr. Phil mentioning UNT right now, "How'd that work for ya?".

Well, they did just over a hundred yards offensively, but no points. I guess at least they lost by an interesting score, 5-0. Distracted by events in Texas? One wonders. Northern Alabama falls to Valdosta State, 5-0.

I thought about mentioning that ill timing to my wife, but...yeah, what you said.

Yes, he was a grad assistant, in 1989. Nothing I see in Gill's record indicates he should be our next HC. You can do a search for him on Wikipedia and find all the facts. Here's something that makes me question his judgment (especially for a place like Denton), this "No women after 10 p.m. policy". Turner Gill "no women after 10" rule.

About all there is to it, other than the loss of Atterberry for the season, which is extremely depressing.

And, you could pretty much see in RV's facial expression and body language that he know's it's over; I just didn't see any stress there.

And I walked out right before that play. I could hear the cheering from the men's room, but just thought it was some late developing mechanical problem at Fouts. Probably just a pervasive sense of unreality on my part. We did go back upstairs after that, thinking they might score again, but no such magic.

And so, as a proposed solution, haven't some said we should hire a coach who was fired for hitting a kid?