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The other Frisco Bowl's logo on the 50. The overwhelming feel of the game being played on a soccer field. And especially the fact that everywhere I went, they wouldn't accept cash. They wanted me to use my cards, and I don't like using cards. Even at Apogee, I pay with cash. A third-rate bowl like either of the Friscos should be glad to take cash, instead of inconveniencing the attendees.

I agree 4 would have made more sense. But, ESPN gets what ESPN wants. And remember, at the time of the decision we were the biggest head-scratcher of the bunch. But if it were just 4, I'd have picked UNT, UAB, UTSA, & Rice. Rice has history, money, academic respect, and a national brand. FAU has none of those qualities and seems to be regressing. Have two divisions... East: ECU, Memphis, South Florida, UAB, Temple. & Tulane. West: UNT, SMU, Rice, UTSA, Tulsa, & Navy. I think those would be 5 great annual match-ups UNT fans would show up to watch.

The answer is still "No thanks". That entire experience sucked. If UNT ever goes back to that P.O.S. I'll watch the game from home.

Not ideal, but better than Frisco. I'll never go to Frisco for another bowl game.

Wow McKrackin, are you Mr. Pink?

No. None of the things you have listed are enough to merit his return. Littrell has not progressed UNT's football program to a point deserving of any extension. There is an argument that he should have been let go after last season. After 6+ years as UNT's head coach, he is about a .500 coach, with the majority of his wins against losing programs. And while competing in C-USA (arguably the weakest conference in the FBS) Littrell has recorded no conference championships and no bowl wins. UNT now has more to offer a new coach. We need to set higher expectations as we move to the AAC, not hope our 6+ year project finally figures things out in a tougher conference.

Let's be honest about this loss. UNT lost because Littrell and company got out-coached. UAB made the halftime adjustments and scored 24 points in the second half, while UNT didn't and scored 0 points. Our players either didn't do what they were told... were never told to do what they needed to do... or didn't understand what they were being told to do. Any way you slice it, our players didn't make the plays, and the blame falls on our coaches. You can't polish a turd. This loss is what it is. UNT is still a team that is not ready to compete against an AAC schedule next year. Beating the crap out of FIU last week was great, but it was just FIU. WKU (7-4) is still the only winning team Littrell and company have beaten this season. And, 3 of our 5 loses were to teams that currently have records of .500 or worse. Only 3 of C-USA's 11 teams have winning records right now. And only 3 teams on our 12 game schedule currently have winning records. Even with this incredibly weak schedule, we are struggling to back into a spot in the conference title game. Every Mean Green fan should be concerned about what we saw today.

Fit check.... This look is unique and clean. It stands apart from all other uniforms in FBS football. Should we get to the title game against UTSA, I hope we wear them again. UNT would be wise to continue embracing these throwbacks. The extra ESPN press is just proof of their appeal.

It was a great day. Great UNT win, with great weather. Just a perfect fall afternoon. Plus, we now stand on the edge of an all-Texas C-USA title game between two programs that are both leaving for the American. And, I really want some revenge against UTSA.

Overall, I love the look. It just doesn't get more unique or dynamic than the old school two-tone green with white on white. The grey facemask is the perfect touch. I'm old and miss the days when grey was the only color on a facemask. I wish they'd make this our regular away game uniforms.

Quality win today. Great job all around. UNT is now a dominating 3-0 versus the programs that will be remaining in C-USA. UNT 31 UTEP 13 LT 27 UNT 47 UNT 40 WKU 13 UNT has beaten these teams by a combined score of 118- 53.

This is the first quality win UNT has had since beating UTSA last season. With that said, I'll stick with my statement from last week. Players make the plays coaches coach them to make. Our coaches did a great job this week and the evidence is on the tape. I saw our offense executing creative plays. And, defensive players were staying home and taking care of their responsibilities. Sure, C-USA is very weak this season, but we are clearly among the better teams this year. Right now, I just want to enjoy this win.

Did we ever get a post-game press conference?

Baker chose to bring back Littrell after a sizable portion of our fans called for him to be fired. There are always additional problems when the fan base is fractured (attendance, donations, infighting, ... ) So this is the reality everyone has to deal with. And it's only getting worse the longer the Littrell situation drags out. Nobody wins in this.

Rumors of the incident were circulating last night, but I ignored it until Vito chimed in stating heard it play out. Something happened. I wish someone would report on it. Hint. Hint.

Yes. Littrell is 0-2 versus Will Healy coached Charlotte teams.

I had not seen this posted yet. Anyone have insight into this? Seems like Vito isn't talking to us about it.

The defense played their ass off for most of the game, but not down the stretch when we had to have a stop. The offense played like crap for most of the game. The coaches were out-coached yet again. That's why UTSA kicked our ass with a bunch of backups. This was not a great game, it was a great loss (and I don't mean that as a positive). It was a game we had won, but gave away in the closing minutes. There is no moral victory to be found in this.

Players make the plays that coaches coach them to make. Tonight, UTSA's backups made more plays than UNT made, so we lost. Seth isn't good enough. Not at coaching. Not at recruiting. Not at retaining quality players. Littrell is a liability and should have been gone at the end of last season. And anyone that is being honest with themself knows it. I wasn't planning on signing back in tonight until I read your stupid comment.

We really sh!t the bed down the stretch. Way to snatch defeat from the clutches of victory. UTSA had multiple injuries heading into this game and lost more players throughout this game... but still found a way to kick our ass. That ending was an embarrassment. After years of failing results against quality competition, how can any real Mean Green fan continue to support Littrell running the show?

This was not the same FAU program that dominated the eastern division of C-USA under Kiffin. This FAU team will probably not finish their season with a winning record. Of course we're all glad we won. But, don't take the cheese.

Yeah, and within 24 hours of the loss, Boise fired a coach. https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/34657389/day-disheartening-loss-utep-boise-state-fires-offensive-coordinator-tim-plough

I see no glory in beating the UTEP's of C-USA. The only games I'm focused on this season are against SMU, UNLV, Memphis, FAU, LA Tech, UTSA, WKU, & UAB. So far, we are 0-3 in these "better" games. I think that is a fair standard for accessing a coach in his 7th season at UNT. Personally, I think the OOC games against SMU, UNLV, & Memphis were a large enough sample size. Getting excited about winning the "lesser" games can cloud the judgement and give a false sense of improvement.

I think Wren runs the risk of being labeled a basketball AD since he continues to tolerate failure from our football program. It's insane that he can orchestrate the building of our successful basketball program yet completely drop the ball with football.