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You're welcome. If they were a little bit more savvy, they would've already begun reaching out to people directly (it's easy to make a profile on this forum and reach out privately) and been monitoring this forum and addressed these issues that've been raised here regarding the game day experience. Perhaps this will get their attention and they'll be more proactive in reaching out to people and resolving these issues. From what I've read, there's really no excuse other than "we dropped the ball and weren't prepared." Parking, TV's not working, ticket issues.... this is all very basic Sports/Event Management 101 stuff, it's disappointing to see we're failing at the most basic level of operations and customer service.

For those who still think all wins and loses are equal and can't understand why the SMU game moved more people over to the SL Era is Over side..... Feel free to use the TSU win to continue getting high on your own supply that SL is the right person to lead us, that our ROI on him as the HC is just fine, that our program is heading in the right direction, that he has "earned" and "deserves" to continue as the HC at UNT.

What you did to get suspended from a message board?? 🤣🤣 I saw your picture and remember you from when I was in school.... I remember you being a stand up cat and pretty funny. Although I do think your take on this backwards.

Bro, this is the point of opening up the job….. to get in early on who’s interested and then go from there…. Go back and look at the timeline and think of the process that has to take place and then consider the benefits like recruiting, the early signing period, starting fresh THE DAY AFTER THE SEASON ENDS versus delaying this process into the new year and losing time…. You’re on the “wait until after the season” bandwagon and to me that wastes valuable time to begin this rebuilding progress. Wait until the end of the season and we’re competing against other programs, open it up now and see what you can get done earlier in the process. If you can’t see the benefits of opening up this process now versus later, I can’t help you. If you can’t see the difference between SL calling a recruit in Oct/November versus a new HC with a fresh vision and opportunity along with having more staff in place the day the seasons over to make those phone calls, flip recruits, and bring transfers in, I can’t help you. Everyday that goes by, we’re waisting on an SL program when we should be spending time building the UNT Program. Coaches are hired guns, if the opportunity is better and they’re up for the challenge and opportunity, why wouldn’t they come? Especially when someone else just as good or better may take the opportunity? Opportunities don’t last, coaches get it - Lane Kiffin leaving ‘Bama before the National Championship game, it depends on the person and opportunity, other guys on the Bama staff in recent years stayed. So long as the job is not open, then there’s no opening for progress or to find out how it shakes up. We’ve got more to lose by not opening the job now than by keeping it closed until the end of the season and then starting the process then and loosing more weeks/months.

Fine, 6 Coaches/Staff can come in and begin recruiting immediately with the remainder coming in at the conclusion of the season. Open your mind up a bit here.

*reason

Off topic but his involvement, via the collective, was and is a huge red flag for me for a number of reasons and is the main reason I have and will continue steer clear of it.

You've got to start the process so that when the last game is played, we're not waiting for interest, having interviews for multiple positions, fending off other schools from those folks, then rushing into bad contracts, and missing out on guys because we waited. Let them finish out the season with their team and the next day, they're Mean Green! As far as burning bridges, any coach who would hold back another coach from progressing in their career, isn't worth holding the bridge down for. Loyalty goes two ways, I'd rather be pushing guys out the door for better opportunities for their career and families versus holding them hostage for my own benefit. You've got to open the gate to give the pool a chance to fill up. Candidates can choose when they want to jump in and how they want to jump in. If "P5 OC" at a ranked team right now says, I'm really interest but can't leave until the end of the season - I'd rather know that now and open the lines of communication, than wait until the end of the season and be out pitched by the competition when we could have been talking for a few weeks/months. This takes leadership from the AD and a well thought-out presentation on the future of the program and why the person selected was selected. You have to work for buy-in, this has to be earned at every level, regardless of the circumstances. As far as clarity, it's clear that the current state of affairs is unacceptable which warrants a change of leadership at the HC position - this is relatively self-evident at this point. Let's not fool ourselves into thinking that we're all going to agree on who the next HC should be. We could win the Conference and a Bowl Game and the current HC could be off to greener pastures and there will still be discord on who the next HC is and should be.

Good Riddance. Either the AD and the President have the balls to run the program or they don't. BMD's who stand in the way of progress for their own self-agrandizing pleasure can F-Off! (I don't know if I can say "F-Off" on this board, apologies if I can't and it can be edited as necessary, TIA!)

If it happened today: Day 1 - Current HC Fired & Job is Posted Day 2 - Talking heads on TV "UNT is a great opportunity, with new facilities, x, y, z etc." Day 14 - A list of prospective candidates begins to emerge as proposals and presentations are received and reviewed by the AD Day 21 - Discussions with prospective candidates begin Day 28 - List is narrowed to 3-4 candidates Day 35 - New HC in Place, Discussion on Staff and Recruiting Begins Day 50 - Key Staff (OC/DC) Identified and Discussions Begin/PSA's (Recruits) have received interest from New HC Day 60 - Key Staff Announced/First New Recruit Commitments Announced Theres a sample 60 day timeline or say two months. Two months from now is Nov. 2nd and we will have played 9 games(3-6, 4-5, 2-7 record?) going into the 10th game of the season on Nov. 5th vs FIU and the UIL Football regular season ends, HS playoff start. New staff can be at those high school games actively recruiting. New staff can be in the transfer portal. New staff can be moved in and families settled. New staff is pounding the pavement with a refreshed sense of what can be accomplished. If a candidate emerges via an Interim HC then so be it. My emphasis or suggestion is not that there is an interim HC on the staff that needs to be evaluated, though if the current HC was fired today and magically we began really playing good football, that wouldn't be a bad thing for anybody. What is a bad thing is waisting time when we could be getting started on a better future for the program, versus kicking this can down the road (again and again) and losing valuable time. Also, IF an Interim HC confuses the hiring process, and we can't figure it out, then we've got a huge problem of an indecisive AD, who doesn't know what they want, severely lacking in vision, unable to make sound decisions, who is inept and would be unable to continue leading the program. This same AD orchestrated the current HC's extension and feels that the current HC is still the person to lead this program out of where it sits today: lackluster in the abyss of ineptitude and irrelevancy. IF this AD then falls over an Interim HC conundrum, then he's got to go as well. Again, you don't know this. This question will remain unanswered until the job is open.

Just to add to this point. Full scholarship student-athletes walk across the stage with the same degree as non-scholarship students less the $$$$ of student-debt. If you have no student-debt, you can't understand what it's like to be making those payments over years. If you have no student-debt because you worked a full-time job going to school, barely getting by, you get it. Both signed up for it, not complaining about student-debt, but to say they're "playing for free" is disrespectful to a majority of the student body at the majority of schools. All make or have made some sort of sacrifice, let's not make it out to be more than it is. Given the choice a majority would pick playing football or some other game "for free" over graduating with student-debt.

You don't know that. I've been in a situation where I joined a staff after being a HC as the top assistant, didn't ask for it but was told I would be given a lot of say in specific aspects of the program, it quickly turned out to be a situation where I was sold a bad bill of goods. Once the season started, the coach began to micromanage every aspect of what the coaching staff was doing and we were all itching to get out. That's one example and what's taking place somewhere in that form or similar that leads to good people looking elsewhere during the season; I'm less naive now than I was then. Until it's put out there that the job is wide open, we're just waisting time now. The buyout is a premium to getting a head start on next year and the future.

All things considered, it is time to start looking. We don't know who's really interested until the job is open. The potential new hire could be complete surprise to everyone..... Could be someone no one thought was interested that sees it, evaluates it, and says, "man I can really do something with that program" - think big because you never know, when you put that "Open for business" sign on the door, who is going to show up!

Just a thought on this, when a certain P5 coach took over a program, their staff couldn't find enough ways to "push" players out the door. Firing him now gives potential coaches a chance to evaluate the program, and make thorough proposals and well thought out presentations in their interview.... The sooner a new coach is in place, the sooner we start recruiting their players and earlier than other teams...... put together the new staff earlier than other teams..... The faster you can hit the ground running on next year and the years ahead, the better off we will be.

"Mass Chaos" and "Disaster"..... there's a book that talks about that and SL didn't write it, I think you're getting confused.

I'm at two years and 2 games to be specific with 6+ seasons used to evaluate

I quabble with it being inevitable. You've got to make moves, things don't just happen on their own. Right now, the only movement I see is further backwards, with no reason right now to believe this will change. Either make a move to prevent further sliding into the abyss of irrelevancy or the only thing inevitable is we will continue digging a bigger hole someone else will have to try and dig us out of. Take the shovel out of SL's hands.

Before or after, the product has been mediocre over the past few YEARS!

There's something to be said about the "redemption factor." No doubt he wasn't happy about being let go at Texas which should provide a lot of fire and a Texas-Sized Chip on his shoulder, and wants to show the football world that he's a damn good football coach. Energy came through during the broadcast last night and as others have mentioned, his passion for the players. He was telling anecdotes of guys he had at Texas who had transferred and were on the field last night and guys he recruited who were on the field with genuine happiness and excitement for them.

This could be an actual scenario, AD & Pres. need to be on the same page on a lot of issues. This would seem to fit in the category of topics to be discussed.