Meangreen Fight

And you as an employee owe the company nothing except your labor while you are on the clock. But thank you for highlighting what the "disloyal" younger generation is responding to. 🤣

I don’t think they were ever that valid except for top 15 teams. The New Years 6 Bowls were the only bowls that had history you average player at that time relished playing in. The bowl tie-ins are convoluted now. It used to be that if you won your conference or got second place you knew what bowl that level of accomplishment would send you. Now you don’t have a clue. Look at Army and Navy from our conference. Army should have gotten a more prestigious bowl and opponent than Navy. (Remember Bowls were assigned before the Army vs Navy game and Army is our conference champion).

Definitely a HUGE part of it but lots of other programs that don’t win consistently have better game day participation by their students for on campus football games. It just a lack of vision by our university when it comes to athletics in general. The new stadium should have been more centrally located than Fouts or just built on top of it. I pushed back and others calling our students “weirdos in another thread. General it seems like the Adminstration doesn’t understand the harder you make it to get to games that we don’t win the fewer the amount of people/students will show up. If DATCU was across the street from the SuperPit or in the footprint of the old Fry Street area, I think you would see an average of 10% more students actually inside the stadiums. The Fry Street area would have been harder to acquire and building within the Fouts (and adjacent parking lot) footprint may have required borrowing another stadium for a year or two. But it would have been worth it in the long term and significant because it would be a symbol that athletics are an essential part of the experience they want to provide traditional on campus students. Winning helps but fixing the culture takes more than just that. And fixing the culture is the only way you can have a down season or two that doesn’t turn into 5 or 10 bad season.

Sounds like most homecoming games… hell it appears that is the SOP for most of the current students who care to be within a mile of our stadium on game day.

In fairness that was a Big 12 vs Big 12 affair.

Kind of pathetic. A program that looks down on us they refuse to play us and have a guaranteed good attendance turnout for an early season out of conference home game, dominates our board in mentions. I am not for blanket cencorship of all things SMU. But when a topic is exclusively about what SMU has or hasn't done that doesn't directly involved a former Mean Green Coach, Athletic Department Employee or Player it should be removed.

That is crazy unless they want playing time on a weaker program in a weaker conference. I wouldn't be excited about us getting a Rutgers transfer if we got one. They would just another body. I wonder how manybod those guys find what they want by leaving.

Unfortunately they are mimicking the behavior of businesses that can behave that way. Nobody gets pensions anymore and few get favorable stock options as front line employees. Loyalty is seldom rewarded in the business world. In college sports I wish it were different. They had the power to do that but leadership, schools, coaches and conferences didn't want to make sacrifices to make that work. 🤷🏽‍♂️

Yes if exhaustion of their play makers is your strategy. 😂

I think that has nothing to do with the struggles of our athletic program. If you loathe the students whose fees pay for athletics do you see how the current students might be uncomfortable around alumni who support athletics? Lots of those “ weirdo” students and alumni are outside the stadium partying not because they don’t like football it because they don’t enjoy watching us lose or beating a school they wouldn’t take a scholarship from. Denton natives are far more hostile or dismissive of UNT athletics than your average student. As a Denton native and UNT alumni I find the disconnect between the local community and athletics confusing. Also the Dallas Cowboys seem to consume so much of the sports atmosphere there is very little for everyone else. Cowboys are the ONLY sports franchise in the area that can consistently underachieve and not lose a second of media coverage.

To many this is the offseason. This game win or lose will be forgettable in UNT football history unless a future All-American, or NFL Starter makes a splashy debut in this game. There isn’t that much to discuss with the modified roster not representing what the 2024 team was nor probably the best starters for the 2025 Mean Green roster. Leading passer, receiver, rusher, tackler, and best graded coverage player are equally likely to enter the transfer portal or end up as 2nd string next season.

Can we get a picture posted with the Schutt helmet and the correctly colored flying worm helmet?

This guy is wasting his time and everyone else’s time. Dude should have found a FCS program with an academic program he was actually interested in. He is going to be 25 soon with nothing to show for it except maybe a “general studies” degree that nobody respects. And may have some student loans if he is extra stupid.

Excellent point right there. I grew up in Denton and the disdain for UNT Athletes was very apparent. I didn’t know they played Div I sports when I was growing up. But when I asked about their sports, the adults suggested they were on par with TWU, sucked in all sports all the time or they had no knowledge about their programs.

Why they won’t use this simple design and color scheme on a helmet, I will never understand.

If Caponi was the least bit self aware and considerate of his friend, he wouldn’t have done that. If you put in 2 years of historically bad performance on your job it isn’t cool to beg your friend to keep your job and putting his career in jeopardy if he saves you. If I were looking for a defensive assistant verification of this story would be imperative before I hire him. Even if I like the 3-3-5 and Caponi’s version of it (when he has the right athletes) I would NOT hire a dude that put upon his friend like this. He might end up being successful here but firing a second year DC who had one of the worst (if not the absolute worst) FBS defenses has nothing to do with it. So yes, it is just you. 😂

The Universities, the coaches, and athletic directors are not committed to them. That is why the transfer portal doesn’t make sense. Nothing the NCAA has been allowed to do actually promotes education or ensures the athletes have access to the most valuable degree programs. Basketball scheduling is joke and now worse with coast to coast conferences. All this nonsense is a work around players being paid in a structure that would make them employees. Like I have said before this could all be rolled back. But it can’t be done selectively to only benefit everyone else but the players financially. They could truly make an amateur league with all “profit” going to back to the school’s athletic scholarship funds. The wealthy universities and fans of the bigger athletic brands don’t want a more level financial playing field. Hell from CFP whining they don’t even want to play less popular FBS teams no matter what they accomplish on the field.

Yes, I am beyond tired of discussing them when they won’t be on our schedule for the foreseeable future. We aren’t rivals as much as we just hate them. Our identity needs to be bigger than that. If I were a mod I would remove this thread. It isn’t possible to make SMU fans to pay a fee to interact on this board so I don’t see the point in this thread. 🤷🏽‍♂️

I think you will see dramatic drop off in interest if that happens. The casual CFB fan without a passionate attachment to a particular team is a small market. College Basketball found that out the hard way. Your purely market driven model applied to the NFL 40 years ago robs the league of Carolina Panthers, Houston or Tennessee franchises, Baltimore or Cleveland franchise, the Jaguars an maybe even Green Bay (if they were poorly managed and never found Brett Farve). Hell even the New Orleans Saints would be on thin ice with hurricane Katrina without the Drew Bree and Sean Patton era. What I think is best would be about 30-40 FBS teams going back down to FCS. And I think a conference like the MAC just doesn’t belong at the FBS level. And basically any team that has jumped up to FBS after 2000 should be critically examined and forced to go back down if they haven’t met certain criteria in on the field achievement.

This is what the NCAA was trying to stop. But the hypocrisy and greed of everyone else in the sport getting paid a “market rate” while walk-ons got nothing and scholarship athletes were eating ramen noodles in the offseason broke that model. The ONLY rational way forward to get sanity and fairness back with a large healthy FBS would about 80-100 teams coming together and becoming an actual league. No less than 50% of all revenue (not including home ticket sales and merchandise sold on campus) would be shared equally. Lots of other things would have to be done but most of them include cushy fat cat positions going away, and others taking 50% pay cuts. The athletic departments would have to surrender a lot of power to the new league/NCAA along with the revenue sharing. We all know that isn’t happening. And we are on a slow road to College Football regular season ratings going down and playoff ratings going up while it is new. Then after the newness wears off we will have FBS looking more like College Basketball. Dramatically less interest in regular season football with few being familiar with great players outside of Heisman contenders (and/or projected 1st round Quarterbacks).

Not if we are conference champions or go to a bowl with 3 losses or less. The qualifications for making a bowl game are a joke.

Is it really a Bowl game if they can’t even change the 50 yard line logo and end zones? And that field looked hard as a rock. I would ask my best players returning to my team to sit out or take limited game snaps. Tape from this game will bare no difference in appearance than a regular season Coastal Carolina game. Maybe I tuned in late but the attendance looked like it a friends and family only affair.

I wonder how many of those programs losing money are paying 10 million per year or more in athletic department staff (including coaches) salary? Everyone paid by FBS football is overpaid if they are losing money. That didn’t just start with NIL. Bear Bryant maxed out with a salary that was around $1.5 million in 2018 buying power ($450k in 1982). And now little old (football wise) North Texas is paying Eric Morris $1.3 million. And that is down from the $1.9 UNT paid Seth in 2020. https://www.bannersociety.com/2019/8/15/20732192/coach-salaries-history-highest The greed and mismanagement is absurd.

I was channel surfing and caught Coastal Carolina getting blown out at home. Oh I forgot this is supposed to be the “ Myrtle Beach Bowl Game”. My initial thought was “who cares”. I hope at least 5 of these fraud money grab bowls go away. Maybe he resents having to write about an extremely irrelevant bowl game.

Man I hate to agree with a stang but the truth is the truth. The average margin of victory in the opening round of the 4 team playoff was 17 points (on neutral fields and nice conditions) and the average margin was almost exactly the same for this opening round with “undeserving teams” playing on the road. Keep the playoff as is and get rid of these Super Conferences killing rivalries.