NorthTexasWeLove

Yes, yes, and yes. *For wildcat, give me Adaway all day.

I don't think it's really comparable. Different eras, different offenses. I think the only way to really even try to pinpoint it is to ask ourselves could one QB fit in every philosophy we've seen here at UNT and still have success, or better success than the QB in that era/offensive philosophy had. Even then, I don't think there is really any way to be accurate with an assessment. I think they're all just different. I think MF would be hard pressed to play in a Dickey or McCarney system. Like I know Derek Thompson would be hard pressed to play in a Littrell system. But both have their successes, just differently.

Completely agree

The FCS Fiasco was what it was. An under-talented team performing below their expected low expectations to the point of it culminating into that game. No team is ever as good as they appear, or as bad as they appear. And that held serve in that scenario. Being a UNT fan is unique. It's hard to describe. But that could be a 25 page thread topic on this forum. "What's it like being a UNT fan to you"

As embarrassing? No. Still embarrassing? Absolutely.

No one cares about the jet. The jet is just the string to pull at at a 3-5 start of the season. If we were 7-1, hell maybe even just 5-3, no one would care about a jet. If you're leaching onto the jet story, let go. The story is the fire in the athletic building. The jet? Simply fuel.

Some more backdoor pointing at the players from this staff. The scheme sucks. The scheme has always sucked. So, Reffett is basically saying without 2 all conference caliber players at all 3 levels, he sucks.

Nope, but they'll aimlessly drop 60K for 'expert' analysis.

If this is what our next DC is pulling (which is close to several salaries for FBS HCs) we damn well not be on the job training this fool. You pay that in CUSA, best be having a top notch defense. I think it may be more wise to funnel more money into the recruiting budget so we can wash that excuse away. Better that than doubling every coaching staffs salary in CUSA then STILL get people pointing to recruiting as a legitimate excuse as if it's not a part of the staffs job.

Make a winner then they will have attendance. UNT alum have time and time again showed up in numbers to support this program. But, they are not going to continue to show up and be embarrassed in every. single. big. game. That has been the theme. Ratchet up marketing to pull a big crowd....Pull said big crowd (record setting usually)....And lose in front of record setting big crowd. Rinse. Rather. Repeat. This program, if we're being honest with ourselves, does not deserve another big crowd until they can again prove they are winners.

I too had us at 8 on the basis of it being like a 2017 season where the offense has to pick up the defense all year long. Sheesh, I was wrong.

We are getting bent over financially by this coaching staff and by every team on the field with any resemblance of a pulse... And in typical apathetic North Texas fashion, our fans doing what they do best...

I'm not willing to write SL off either. But I'm not going to chalk up needing to invest more and more to have success. We've invested the most, and will not even have a bowl appearance to show for it. We have recruited better than UNCC in all 4 of SLs classes. We had the better team, in person and on paper. And coaching blunders allowed us to fall, as many times before. That Austin Peay coach was like 16-24 while there. He's clearly buddy-buddy in the coaching community and slipped and fell into that job with recommendations. As for the Bama comment people are in love with... 1) let nicky satan lose to the likes of ULM in year 4 with an Alabama record setting QB. Wives and dogs would've been hiding everywhere in Alabama. 2) we are not Bama and SL sure as shit is not Nick Saban.

So you think UNT is historically sub par because of the comments of the .05% of alum who care and not the absolute apathy that set in into the 99.5%? I....see? Good programs, even in down and troddened years, don't lose to the likes of UNCC under a 1st year head coach from Austin Peay. It's absolutely insulting to suggest such. We have the record setting QB. We have outrecruited UNCC even in SLs first classes. We took the 2 score lead into 4th quarter. We suck/ed. And this admin keeps piling up sandbags and people are legitimately making excuses for it. It's inexcusable.

This thread is lunacy.

The quit crapping on classes before they play. It's the direction you are getting ready to take. If that's not the direction you were going, then good. Don't. Because it's certainly not about them. Oh, and the point still stands. We are not going to be very good at OL or DL unless we make a philosophical recruiting change. The writing is on the wall, as history suggests with the current signed/committed players.

What am I assuming? I have frustratingly stated that things will not be looking promising again until 2022 granted there is not a push for JUCO/transfers. You come in and second that opinion in a different form of verbiage in a light that makes it seam OK to be 'meh' until 2022. What am I assuming here?

Yes, offers lists. Their offer lists in large part are not very good at OL/DL. Yes, some kids come in and outperform their expectation. I hope they all do. That'd be great and a pleasant surprise. Also, quit hiding behind the, "they're just kids" crap for an excuse to mute people dissatisfied by this poor season and the probable season to come. I'm not ever going to directly single out a kid, whether he has played or not, on the basis of being upset at poor coaching, development, preparation, recruiting, motivation, etc. I know where the onus lays.

Ahhh, yes. Be patient. Time will get us settled in...It might take until year 7, but it will happen...Maybe...Hopefully.

Yes, so some concepts of it. He pulls a linemen and inserts usually a hybrid safety to run a stack 3-3 defense.

We are not top dollar? This doesn't even make sense. Your analogy applies to everyone, everywhere. But, we actually pay the most money to have our coaching staff coach our team. The most money should, by minimal standards, get us to 6-6 bowl eligibility year in and year out. Arguing the basis of that is just being a SL homer without the willingness to look at our situation with realism.

Kansas State used it as a model for years. And heavy doesn't mean an entire class, but absolute needs.

Pay top dollar, expect top product. Pretty simple.

A singular down year? In your opinion, are we going to have another down year next year? Or the next?

Wow, well for starters, this young lad is better...apparently. And for 1.1M less. Yay us!