BTG_Fan1

Short-term should be focusing on the bowl game.. Long-Term should be on recruiting, this staff and Wren have a plan. We may not believe in the process, but we have to trust them.. which is difficult for a lot of us after after the whole RV thing

I'm going to guess those aren't the real #s but I think it be safe to assume local kids parents know about that stuff happening at UNT compared to UTSA or TXST don't you agree? On top of kids, wanting to off go off and do their own thing as well..

Didn't Dickey win us multiple SunBelt Championship with bad classes?

I'm not upset at all.. Everyone is wanting to jump overboard(IE: on twitter, bashing UNT/Calling for the firing of the recruiting coord) because we haven't filled our recruiting class 6 weeks before signing day... If we had filled our class before signing day last year, we would have missed out on Jenkins..

How we should view Recruiting is in 3 cycles.. 1- Mid-Semster JUCO/Freshman--- Izzy, Auggie(Rumored) but who else? 2- NSD-- we should focus on the Freshman mostly since they should be a lock to attend UNT, with an idea of what JUCOs we need to follow 3- Fall Camp- Who did we pick up after NSD along with which JUCOs were able to make it to campus. ------------ With that being said Izzy by various recruiting services have him in the top 5/10 JUCO QBs so that is solid start, but can we piece together 1 or 2 more Mid-Term guys at WR or OL which would calm alot of fears here Pearson, Davis, Johnson and other HS recruits are a solid core, but can we add a few late.. Galvin Holmes and Beau Corrles are still out there and if a few bigger schools fill up we could shock some people. But I was looking at 1 JUCO WR ranking and we had offers out to 4 or 5 of the top 10 with offers to Guys at Trinity Valley, Naverro, Georgia Military Prep, among others which could be good but may not know till the summer. We don't know who is left out there just like how Jenkins, Wyche, Hoston, Peters, were all out there after NSD. While only Jenkins out of these guys played a big role this year, all of them were thought/viewed as quality adds. Jenkins may have been the best CB that we had all year, and hopefully he is healthier for the bowl game because he didn't seem to play the same during his limited time vs SM and when playing vs UTEP. Wyche never found his place in the back-field but has another 2 years following this year Hoston would have been another body to rotate but we will never know what his impact coulda been to the DL this year. Peters didn't play much this year(Believe he was on Special Teams), if he played at all.. But should rotate into the LB core with Scott and Finney leaving.

I'm not saying we focus on that twitter user either, but that user could have hurt us... I'm not saying that they did, but just planting that seed to possibly grow is the problem. We shouldn't be frustrated at all right now. Yes, we don't have the # of recruits that we should but UNT does this alot and SL even pointed this out and Vito did as well in his recruiting post today. There will be plenty of kids that come NSD, that can't go to a school because that class filled up and we can pounce on them while UTSA and TXST are full. Yes its very risky, but it could be huge as well possibly. We all should trust the staff that they are out doing their jobs, and it sucks that they haven't gotten any new commits in the past 4 or 5 weeks, but we have doubted this staff and they have surprised us with them putting together a solid class last year, then the record and a shocking bowl game bid this year.. Give it time and SL and the staff got a plan, and we have to hope its the right one.. but it has been good so far. Also, its possble that GH and SL are bringing in 2 or 3 of the best QB prospects that we have had in terms of Star ratings.. in Pearson, Izzy, and Auggie(if its true he will be here in the Spring)

I totally agree about the past few weeks without any new recruit,and the firing part was in response to a tweet from someone on this site, and how that could affect possibly current recruits that follow that user. We also have to remember, NSD is no lock.. We were in shock after we landed Cody Haynes and William Johnson, and they never arrived on campus then we landed Eric Jenkins along with a few other guys after NSD. Yes we can be happy/worried on NSD for the high school kids, but the full class won't be completed till the Fall.

Whoever it is, they need to be motivated and play better than we did last time vs army

It is just a tweet, but again these things add up to recruits! When we all were younger we would find flaws and expose them way more than we should just to try and make ourselves look good for that one girl in class compared to the other guys. Colleges do that as well, and not saying they would use a tweet against us because it has nothing to do with the staff, but a recruit could read it and see oh maybe UNT doesn't have the budget for this or that like they say they do. I'm not here to complain about the recruiting, I'm waiting till NSD for that. My complaint is people are here complaining, but they've offer nothing in terms of new ways to help change and just to bash the program. I could make my own and maybe I will, but this account went from promoting UNT in the past to now bashing it, so why the switch and whose running it? Also, I don't see Bama fans calling for the graphic design guy to be fired because some recruit picked another school like we do at UNT..

Growing up everyone wanted to give off to school, and growing up here these kids have done that at stuff before. We can say we have 3 studs but it's more like 2 with the LBs but they were undrafted. UTSA had a guy drafted and they have that over us, also Wilson can talk about all the guys he has put into the NFL as well plus the LSU RB as well. another thing that helped, was LSU/UTSA satellite camps. The big names being paired together helped. Also, the stadium maybe trash but the recruits are ushered and controlled with where they go so they don't see it. I go to UNT now, but have we already forgotten about the kid killed by a cop shootings last year, even when the kid was high on something. The chick that disappeared with her BF? The chick that was killed after a party, plus multiple robberies on campus as well.. that's safe? I'm not denfending all the victims but yea Denton isn't without its problems, plus compare the size of SA to Denton, a lot more can go wrong.

I think the question that should be asked is, whatever pitch they are trying why haven't they adjusted it yet? And if 1 or 2 kids are who we are holding out hope for, are they worth it compared to these other Texas schools classes?

Do we honestly think the coaches aren't out recruiting? The efforts in recruiting isn't by the guy doing the player edits, it's by the coaches but yet they don't get tagged in the posts. We see high schools saying thanks to UNT for coming by within the past week or 2, just because a kid doesn't commit doesn't mean they aren't trying. These coaches are having to change entire campus mindset and how UNT is viewed throughout the state. Also, if your going to bash UNT bring facts and actual ways to fix I to compared to stupid tweets, saying fire the graphics dealing guy for no new commits. But most of all, if it's meant to bash and trash UNT then do it in a private account and not one that would possibly add to recruits worries out in the public, and again bring a solution to the table! With people paying to consume a product, that see no results.. I'm not seeing people lining up to make donations left and right with the sole purpose of recruiting. I'm not seeing these people offering up student ticket donations, nor doing other things to aid these coaches either.. not trying to attack you or anyone @BillySee58but the bashin of UNT has to stop. We have to find what's I see wrong with UNT in terms of it being viewed by recruits, so it can be corrected in the future. The coaches are out or were out recruiting, but whatever they told kids wasn't clicking that is something we can complain about but this is a young staff that has only been around for 1 year. Yes, they need to produce but we need to find ways to aid and not potentially hurt them or undermine them. I don't often agree but I'm worried as well, but I'm going to hold back the sky is falling till signing day. But I'm not going to call for coaches to be fired or replaced yet..

Once again, this should be used to promote UNT not bash it nor the staff. This account can say whatever it wants but planting these small seeds can hurt. You gotta remember these are high school kids, and how it was when you were in school. You hear a rumor or hear it and makes you have a seed of doubt. Not saying this will lead to kids leaving, but you have enough things it could impact where they go. Also, with the people on here complaining about the lack of effort made by coaches, I'm not seeing these people donating/paying for other designers to make stuff for these recruits.. but again, since this has been missed.. this isn't a big deal but it should be meant to promote the school and team not bash it, tagging people to be fired.

Idk tweet the kid and ask... but The river walk, better night life, close to Austin and Houston.. also, somewhat close to home but not to close. Along with UTSA playing in a dome and having a player drafted last year, couldn't hurt.

Must of liked what SA had to offer over DFW

It wasn't that tweet, the tweets have since now been deleted after posts on this thread, but this twitter handle went on with a UTSA fan trashing/bashing about UNT and recruiting. Talking about replacing the recruiting coordinator/ graphic design teams, etc to give the Coaches gas money to go visit campuses. It may not be a huge factor but look at # of our recruits that's follow it. It could put doubts into their mind if/when someone else comes a calling or visiting.

Hired

Nope it isn't and the bashing had been going on a week or 2... whoever is running it hopefully that have a come to Jesus moment since this is the dead period. A lot of kids are now digging deeper into the schools and narrow down lists..

Soo here is a question I haven't seen asked.. but we know about SL and EK, Reff with who they have recruited and perry as well... but are these other coaches that we have known to be recruiting coaches? Or guys who got a promotion for coming to UNT over their previous college employer?

The twitter page @northtexaseagle, someone had posted a tweet from this twitter account... but look at the # of recruits that follow it. Bashing and hating on the coaches for not getting commits makes the staff look bad and makes the recruits wonder as well. It should be showcasing the opportunities and what is offered by UNT, not asking to have people fired(which now those tweets have been deleted).

It's great seeing recruits looking at the page, but whoever is running it is bashing UNT non stop and trying to get the recruiting staff fired than keeping us informed and help display the school to recruits...

Be ready for the -1s for saying Fine had a bad game

ANd Temple was just ranked 23rd and Navy 25th... along with Army's 5th ranked defense holding off those 2...

informed conversations are something adults should try and strive for when discussing a subject... but again you missed the ending when I say who/how the QB spot should be handled.

I'd hope Fine pass for 300 in a game with him with the Weapons that he had when he was in... and with how many more games he played in compared to Morris... Because I mean, Morris tied Fine in TDs and Morris played what 3 and half games... got no problems with fine.. gotta repeat it multiple times in different threads because its the same valid points to criticism him on. Everyone thinks he is a savior but he hasn't do anything to stand out besides vs Marshall and times vs MTSU/UTSA... when Fine goes out and puts up a 300/400 game with 3+ TDs and 0 Turnovers on a game in and out then we can say how great he is.. but again, he has had flashes but other times down right terrible. We can say he is freshman but he played with the better OL, RBs, WRs. Morris didnt't have the great OL vs WKU/SM/UTEP or the RBs/WRs either... Yes morris messed up and never did i put all the blame on these other spots. I was saying morris played a fraction of the time but gets alot more blame, because he came from Bama... Morris would have worked out his problems with more time, and the huge thing that is overlooked by everyone is Fine and the # of sacks he took. He could have avoided a few but just getting the ball out of his hand like Morris does... But again, neither one of these QBs should be getting the lionshare of the snaps at the HoD, they should rotate them and go with the hot hand... Beating Army could be/ and should be a big deal... Army has beaten Temple and Navy, and Army is a top 5 defense as well.