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I can live another year with Mumbles, but these next hires have got to be out of the park to get me back on his side. I'm still not sold on him, but this does give me hope that he's got the brass cheerios to do what is necessary.

Kinda surprised on this one. I was not a Reeder fan, but I thought first year FBS jitters would get him a pass. Wonder if he was released by us or opted to go. He's virtually guaranteed a spot int he FCS circle

Happy firings to all. Cause there better be some

TE ain't exactly know for speed. That's the witten special. Wide open and slow as a tank

They may blow pineapple chunks. But I'll still be there watching our boys blow them. (Can we say that here? )

Honor and integrity have pretty much ruined the nfl futures of fine and bussey. If we can't put kids in a position to succeed they should challenge it. You never changed jobs for a better pay check? Football careers are short. However they can achieve that dream, do it (except smu). I wish they would stay. But there's no judgement on my behalf

Best of luck to him wherever he goes. Sad for unt but these kids need to look to their futures

True. Look at rice beating up on those top ranked (preseason) teams!

Skip Holtz(54-36)? Bill Clark (44-21)? Even Lane Kiffin(59-34)? All doing better fixing programs that struggled, and cheaper too! Doing more with less. Or let's look at nearby neighbor SMU with Sonny Dykes. Still newish, but not a bad record so far. It's not a head scratcher that cheaper or newer coaches are doing better than ours (27-24)

Again, it doesn't just boil down to good or bad only. Black or white. win or lose. It's just not that simplistic. If all you see is 2 nine win seasons, everything look peachy. Sure we downplay that we went from dead last in CFB to having some decent years. But you can't pump up those seasons as if we were worthy of a national title or even a good team. We did "just ok" in a really bad conference against really bad teams. Hindsight has showed us that. And we failed to do well against anyone with some meat on them. And now, once again, we are nearing the bottom 10. On a scale of 1-10, given the teams we've beaten. We are maybe... a 5? Barely average? I was kinda hoping to see that go up. Not back down. I truly do hope Seth is the guy. Unless, the good lord willing, some other team takes him off our hands, we are stuck with him.

Feels like an overstatement/simplification. Yeah, he is turning the ship. But I don't think it's a turn around or in the right direction. It's not hitting rocks or running aground, but the ship steering still needs some work. A lot of other coaches can do what he did in hindsight.

Yes, of course it's better off. For what we are paying the man we should be. But he is also under performing for what we are paying. I don't expect him to walk on water, but for 2Mil a year he better at least be practicing it.

You can't boil it down to a losing season. That's the bare minimum of the question. It's the fact that we haven't beat a winning team in... 2 years? In the worst FBS conference. And how many of those losses were massive blowouts. Lack of recruitment to fill our needs. Non existent defense for his tenure. Yes we made bowl games. But there's so much more depth to the issue of us being poorly coached than that. Something is rotten and needs work

That's pretty much watching all sports in general. But an opportunity to celebrate some kids who made an impact isn't a waste. Sure it was a bad team/coaching/year. But a few of them deserve the recognition

This is our last chance...privilege... to see Mason play for us. What he's sacrificed for unt deserves our attention. The coaching staff be damned.

Hopefully we make some half time adjustment and get better in all 3 phases ... /takes a double shot of cheapest whiskey

We got a first down! Moral victory!

The only plus side to this game is something must change after. I can't see a situation where we don't make some announcement to bring hope to this program. New DC. Seth taking a new job. Anything. Just some kind of motivation

So I'll go ahead and answer this now: unequivocally yes. Even if it's an unknown I think we have peaked. Time to take seth out back and old yeller him.

Fine looks pissed. Not sure I've ever seen him break emotionally... but this is really hard to see

So I got roasted super hard in that renfro thread for my attitude and negativity against our staff and current situation. We are down 17-0 to rice. If anything I might have understated our situation. This is right plain awful.

So far getting steam rolled by rice.