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Yeah it's a big football school from what I've read. Tate Martell came out of there a few years ago. Was the number 2 Dual Threat QB in his class and went to Ohio State. He's now at Miami. Definitely a pipeline you want to tap into.

With zero evidence, I would guess the other schools' tuition costs you mentioned as being less than UNT are lower because of housing. DFW housing > Nacogdoches/Stephenville/Corpus Christie/Commerce housing. Housing is a large chunk of the total tuition package.

I know Texas is not Ivy league but they're highly regarded nationwide. A friend of my brother's (who went to Missouri) convinced me UNT was the best option for journalism. He was the sports editor for the DMN at the time and told me he held a UNT degree in higher esteem than a Texas degree if everything else was equal. I decided journalism wasn't for me but I don't blame that on him. Anyways, just my story on an employer's value of a UNT degree. I think it's also going to depend on what you studied and how that relates to what you're applying for. An Art History degree will hold little weight regardless of the school name on the degree.

I'm not going to look at all your examples but I looked at UTA because they're in DFW. Per their website, their tuition is $27,280 per year which is about $2000 more per year than UNT per UNT's website. My statement wasn't clear. While I'm sure there are other universities in Texas that are cheaper, from what I've seen they're mostly no more than $2,000 less. My comment was regarding the belief that you can go to a 4 year school, get a degree, and not get into debt with today's costs unless you have a scholarship or your parents are paying for you to go or unless you work 50+ hours per week, take 1 or 2 classes per semester, live with your parents, and take 6 years to graduate thus starting your career later. $2,000 less per year is a lot of money but you're still accumulating debt doing to any one of those schools you mentioned.

I'm hoping this is my last response on this topic. I've been way more invested in this thread than I should be. I guess it's just that I can clearly see the different mindsets by generation. My issue with asking within a few years after graduation is these young adults are tired of college and being broke. Give them some time to accumulate some wealth and assets (house, own car, etc...) and then start the conversation. Starting immediately after college left a bad taste in my mouth which that alone takes time to get past. Like somebody else mentioned, after paying for every little thing including scantrons to take tests, now you want MORE money? Give it time before asking for the first time. 5 years down the line, you introduce the thought to somebody and they might be in a good spot financially to where they can happily accept and donate. Graduating college with these loan debt amounts felt like a bad breakup to me and the last thing I wanted to do was give UNT MORE money. That said, with the amount of data out there, I feel universities would be better off creating time frames to start contacting graduates based on their level of debts. I'm sure universities know how much students owe Sallie Mae. How quickly they start asking for donations should depend on how much money the owe. The more they owe, the longer you wait before contacting them. If somebody really wants to donate anyways, I'm sure they will.

I would forego 2 Starbucks drinks and shift that money to UNT.

I agree with your sentiment about the picture. I feel like it's a middle finger to the university and I love UNT. I plan on donating one day when I can. I've never been stingy but calling somebody within a few years of graduating while they're watching hundreds escape their checking accounts monthly to pay for said university seems like a poor tactic .

Find me other 4 year universities in Texas that are cheaper. I'll wait.

Even then, inheritance turning you rich only matters for those who have wealth in their families. For those few, student loan debt doesn't exist anyways. For the majority, there is no inheritance to fallback on.

The current average tuition for 1 full year at UNT (two 15 credit semesters) is $25,680. This total does not include the summer when you're out of school and need housing/food as well as winter break which is about 1 month. Most people go home for breaks which means less costs but also needing to find temporary employment back home or just going unpaid. I made $11/hour in college working at a distribution center. At 40 hours per week, I would have made $22,880 in 1 year before taxes were taken out. My employer did not allow us to go over 30 hours per week. Paying for tuition would have been nearly impossible. Thanks for playing.

I've never donated money to UNT and I immediately throw away anything asking me to donate. I graduated in 2014 and hope to pay off my student loans by next year. If the school wanted me to donate, they could have made tuition/overall attendance less expensive. How can you expect young adults, most of who can barely get a job out of college, to take what little bit they earn and donate it away. I don't think most of you here understand the current costs of college education, cost of living, and current incomes. I started off making $15/hour out of college in a corporate job doing work unrelated to my studies. The field I studied generally demanded unpaid internships for experience. I'm fortunate now to have gone into another field unrelated to my degree where I will make close to 6 figures this year (thanks to lots of overtime) which is why I should have my loans paid off by next year. That said, I haven't taken a vacation since high school due to now having kids as well. I'm not going to crap on young adults who can't afford rent for not donating to their university. UNT won't pay their bills. Hard work will. For those saying the UNT degree helped them find employment, college degrees are the norm now. Not having one is nearly a disqualifier barring incredible experience but having one is expected. If our recent grads found decent paying jobs more easily and didn't owe $500/month in loan payments, maybe they'd donate more.

As far as I'm concerned he wasn't convicted. Plenty of people go after celebrities for money so regardless of threats, the case loses credibility for me because she settled for money but wouldn't follow through with the criminal side. In regards to signs of abuse and all, Ezekiel Elliott's ex-girlfriend had all the evidence for physical abuse but didn't consider her best friend turning in text messages where his accuser said she was going to frame him for leaving her. That's why there's a court case. If you read about Kobe's case, the accuser wore underwear with a white males pubic hairs and another male's sperm on it to her rape kit exam for Kobe but then claimed she put on the wrong underwear by accident. That makes no sense but that's what happened and what she claimed. If that's not suspect I don't know what is. The debate was that she had sex with another man after the alleged rape. If that's true, that's not consistent with the behavior of somebody who was just raped. A witness who worked with her said he saw her after the alleged rape and said she didn't seem distraught or bothered in any way. Him apologizing was part of the civil settlement so there certainly was some control from her side in what was to be included in the apology. Of course, when celebrity trials don't go through everybody just says the accuser was afraid of retaliation and they consider the celebrity guilty without considering that maybe they just didn't have a strong case. Regardless of your beliefs, Kobe had 1 blemish which was the rape allegations. His family loved him, he had an incredible bond with his daughters, and was very involved in mentoring youths. Everybody you watch play basketball today grew up wanting to be Kobe. He's this generation's MJ. In addition, he was very involved in supporting other sports including being one of the biggest celebrity supporters of women's basketball including attending games of all levels. In my opinion, his legacy will live in more than just in basketball. Finally, I find it highly inappropriate to talk so poorly about somebody when they're deceased based on allegations that happened almost 20 years ago. He has a daughter who will never even know him. Have some respect.

I've got a bunch of kids. Unfortunately my best shot at athletes are the two youngest. I've got the 3 oldest step kids wearing UNT gear though... had the 10 year old in football but he wasn't interested. Going to be another 15 years for the two youngest and I'm going to steer them towards non-CTE sports if possible.

12-0 confirmed. We'll get the Heart of Dallas Bowl against a 8-4 G5 team.

He goes to Parish Episcopal. For kids from Parish, Greenhill, Hockaday, Episcopal school of Dallas, Jesuit, Highland Park, etc... going to SMU is part of the culture. They stay in the private school system in college and stay with the same circle of people. This isn't a shot at them or SMU by saying it's part of the culture but they get to go to a school where they know a lot of people, feel comfortable because of the culture, and stay close to home. I'm not surprised he's committed there.

I also enjoyed him saying he would stay home with the city that made him... by going to Fort Worth. Those that don't know highland hills, it's considered southeast oak cliff by today's geography so Dallas, not Fort Worth (oak cliff is originally much smaller than what's called oak cliff today). It's actually a few miles east of UNT Dallas. Regardless, I wish him the best of luck. It's not easy growing up in areas like he grew up in. I'm happy he's making it out of there and I hope he works hard, finds success, and gets his family out too. A lot of good kids get sucked in to criminal activity and ruin their future so congratulations to him.

Completely respect that. I feel like we can impact people the best when each focusing on smaller communities (i.e. beat responsibility) and that's dead in Dallas. Call after call without ever getting to handle the smaller complaints and getting to help those who need it. Anyways, I wish you the best of luck. You're clearly doing things right.

Congrats sir. Any chance you put in for the Dallas chief after chief Hall is gone? We could use a real leader who knows DPD and the city of Dallas.

Don't know if this has been answered but what's up with the horn sounding off constantly at the pit?

I think both. Plus if memory serves me right our DL coach or DC went to Texas Tech to serve on the DL. I'm blanking on the coach's name but I belive he had formerly played for the Miami Hurricanes. There was probably a strong connection there and coach offered Howard stability in a situation with so much uncertainty. Edit I think the coach was Kevin Patrick.

I don't think it matters much until he's up for head coaching jobs. Even then I think it only matters if you're looking at programs of similar stature. Right now he's likely just looking for upward moves. Why go to Texas for the same role and pay when it means starting over with implementing his philosophies? He's spent his whole career moving around North America (even Canada) for opportunities. Being close to home probably doesn't matter as much as it does to others.

He played there early on. Shame he didn't want to be here.

He honestly reminds me of Devin Singletary from FAU. Singletary was about 5'9" 200 lbs. Siggers is 5'8" and 200 lbs. He's just as punishing and aggressive of a runner as i remember Singletary being. The same reasons Singletary gave the conference fits are the same reasons Siggers tortures the conference during his career. If he continues like this, expect great things in college and at the NFL level. I'm very excited about Siggers being in green.

Depends. If your transfers never played at P5s due to work ethic or attitude then why believe they'll be any better at a G5 school?SMU got a variety of transfers, several of which had injury issues which prevented them from playing previously. For SMU a few of their transfers were productive at their previous schools. Their QB transfer Bueschele was a starter at Texas for a year and some games so I think many expected him to play well at SMU. SMU also got Abercrumbia, a DT from Rice who was 3rd team all C-USA last year. Their linebacker McBride from Auburn played in the SEC but suffered a neck injury in 2018. He recorded a couple tackles in their SEC championship game against Georgia in 2017.

Yes. Has me wondering, our 2 losses are against what looks like a tough SMU and a solid rankee Cal team who just beat Ole Miss. Maybe UNT isn't that bad this year? I guess time will tell.