Mike Jackson

Hey since you are going to be in Dallas anyway. This might be more convenient and cheaper for you.

I did not want to confuse the ‘him' in that I was referring sentence was Odus not Joe.

Who is the best UNT Head Football Coach in history; Odus Mitchell. But I wager that if you ask your average UNT Alumni or Fan they would say Hayden Fry. (God bless the spirit of Hayden Fry, his family members and friends ). As successful as Fry was here in his short tenure let me list the things Mitchell did here that Fry didn't or didn't have the opportunity to do here because Mitchell did it first. 10 Conference Titles Integrated UNT Football a decade before SMU. He recruited Mean Joe Greene and the nickname Mean Green was established by team built by him. ALL 20 years of his coaching at the college level were at UNT Our first Bowl Win Compiled a record of 122-85-9 The truth is Fry may likely have never have come to UNT hoping to do big things here if Mitchell hadn't built up the program. I think Fry looming over this program as the coaching icon (with 90% of his biggest achievements coming at other schools) is indicative of a very strange culture surrounding our program. It is like a widow who pines and tells stories about sexy young girlfriend he had a short exciting fling with after his wife died. But never tells stories about his charismatic, nurturing, hard-working, loving wife of 25 years that birth and raised 5 children with him that became successful great people raising families of their own. Fry is a distance second to Mitchell and I wish that was well known. He is the coaching icon here not Fry. I would like to know your impression of the importance of Fry vs Mitchell to UNT Football before you read my post. Also if you agree that it seems Fry looms larger over this program than Mitchell, let me know why you think it is that way. **What triggered me today was another post mentioning Seth just passing up Fry for wins here. It isn't just 40 wins that is impressive it is the winning percentage here. Mitchell wouldn't be this great standard barer at 122-118 over 30+ years. The frequency of the mentioning of Fry would make sense if that was the case. Because that isn't greatness, it is just longevity. Longevity is an honorable good thing but it isn't hall of Fame worthy by itself"

Are you trollin'? If so you deserve an A+. Hayden Fry - awesome hall of Fame coach but shouldn't be the standard here. Odus Mitchell should be the measuring stick. Mitchell 10 conference titles, 122-85-9 and never took another head coaching job after leaving UNT. His regime recruited Abner Hayes, Leon King, and Mean Joe Green Fry 40-23-3 at UNT. This was a relatively short stop in his legendary career. He didn't Intergrate UNT Football. He is an IOWA legend and the majority of his time at Texas colleges were a other schools chiefly SMU. We need to stop the Fry comparisons as some sort of measuring stick. It was for him his right to leave, and it was logical for him to leave but his leaving was self serving and wasn’t good for UNT. And he should never be mentioned in the pantheon of UNT head coaches at the expense not recognizing Odus Mitchell as the absolute standard here. I wasn't alive for either of these coaches tenures at UNT and I am no spring chicken. So looking at their records here and other achievements here, It is very odd to me that Fry and not Mitchell looms over this program as the head coach icon. It is wrong!

With a lame duck coach a lot of that recruiting effort will be wasted if Seth and most of the staff are gone come December. 🤷🏽‍♂️

To the person that rolled there eyes at this comment. What kind of building would you call giving a coach with no conference championship or bowl wins 2 contract extensions? What kind of building is letting a 6 year tenured coach come back to start a season that could likely be his 4th consecutive losing season? How would you interpret these actions?

That really isn't enough points for me to bet on us.

Man that sounds very familiar, almost like I have lived that season 3 times before. Not possible right? I mean only in the Twilight Zone would fans be cursed with coach mediocre mumbles for the better part of a decade, right? 😨😰😱

Exactly, just lose "state" permanently please. Old logo, fonts, tints of our primary colors and etc are great. I love the flying worm, and interlocking NT. I could see using NTSU on a throwback swag but "state" should never be spelled out on anything newly produced again. I think it's basic marketing. What's next new throw back swag with "Normal" on it? Tell you what if most of are still around in 25 years still pinning for gear with "state" on it I will get some custom made for you.

No run game, dropped passes and an inaccurate QB that make the margin for error for the offense incredibly small hard to sustain long drives. You can't have any missed opportunities when he throws the ball on target and on time. And defense just isn't good enough to be expected to hold a good offense under 30. Two FG drives by UNT and the refs don't matter.

🙄 let’s just say there were 8 blatant drops or judicious throw aways passes to prevent a bigger negative play. That would mean there were 8 bad miss and that isn’t even accounting of the interception. So of the eight he straight up 3 of them should have been intercepted (1 was) and the other 5 were ridiculously off target. That was a garbage performance that many high school senior quarterbacks, (probably 6 in Dallas, Denton, and Tarrant County) given 3 weeks practice with this team could duplicate or exceed. And we are talking about professional legitimately paid as an athlete by the Yankees, almost 30, with 3 years in this system. We are not talking about a true freshman at program transitioning from an old school pro-style I-formation system or triple option. He was a HUGE part of the reason they lost. This guy is inaccurate and that shows in his career stats. And his completion percentage for this game was one second worse this year. People who didn’t watch the game are in his reading audience also. And it gives a false impression as to how he played. Reading that line doesn’t communicate that. An inaccurate QB was more inaccurate than usual ≠ missed a few passes. That is beyond just being nicely subtle.

I wish you comment was 100% liked. I often wonder how many haters from our "non-rivals" come to this board often.

Dude I wish you were being an emotional hyperbolic fan right now. But this was shocking: "Aune missed on a few throws but continued to stack up yards." 😳🤨 The underline part is as close to a blatant lie from a reputable old school sport journalist I have seen. Most people people understand math would describe less than 50% (16 incompletions) as more than a few.

🤦🏾‍♂️ I called this out earlier. But alas you always have defenders on every half ass attempt this program has . Currently on Wikipedia AND meangreen.com he is not even titled 2014-2015 North Carolina's Co-Offensive Coordinator. He was "Assistant Head Coach and Tight Ends Coach". Seems his agent and him play the good ole boy schmoozing, and hype game perfectly. Reminiscent of Jeff Fisher. Jeff Fisher a guy that stuck around in the NFL almost 10 years more than he deserved too. A mediocre coach with no special X & O contributions but a decent motivator. Before North Carolina he was Co-Offensive Coordinator for 2 losing seasons at Indiana. Mind you the offenses put up good numbers against mediocre teams but poorly against the better teams in the Big 10. Also it is key to note they averaged 50 points a game through the first 3 games against D1 athletically load Indiana State, Navy and Bowling Green. And at North Carolina if he was so essential to the offensive production why not give him a raise and title of OC and AHC instead of letting him go to UNT? It would be interesting to calculate his Indiana's team offensive ranking minus those athletically overmatched teams. I can't believe he got the second extension here. I see nothing in his bio to makes me think he was some near can't miss head coach prospect. And getting 2nd extension with 0 post season wins is ridiculous and infuriating.

I am looking for 1 or 2 seats for the FIU game.

I don’t know if I envy your optimism, or pity your delusional state of mind. 🤣🤣. It’s appreciate either way: Go Mean Green.

Let me break it down to you in math. Season Avg 54.1 % > 48.4 % vs UTSA That is his lowest completion percentage this year. He missed more wide open receivers for big plays than he hit. He also didn't take good opportunities to scramble for first downs. Also he threw in an INT that took points off the field. Maybe without the interception I could see how you believe it was one of his better games even if they did lose the game. (That is omitting and just giving him the lucky credit of UTSA dropping two balls that should have been intercepted). And QBR his rating was 60 for this game only his QBR of 29 vs Memphis this season was worse. The only metric that was good was yardage.

KFC will most likely be there. Our career 55% passer is going to have to exceed that average for the rest of the season for us to get there. Seth isn't going bench him unless he plays even worse. That means losing 2 more conference games. (First one with Aune throwing an interception or two AND completing less than 40% of his passes with adequate pass protection on most passes. Then the 2nd one with the rusty backup being asked to do too much). Force me at gun point to bet something significant I could not look at my family in the face and bet on us to get there.

If you're going to judge KD like this I hope you want Aune off the team and focusing on his academics for his own good and the good of the team. 🤦🏾‍♂️

Better game? Then that encapsules why Seth should already be gone and also why Aune should be on the bench. Seth is an offensive coach, who appears to not be able to coach quarterbacks and not scheme offense when the athletes of the opposing defense has athletes that are equal to his on offense. Aune is 10th out of 11th in CUSA. And his completion percentage was lower than his putrid career average this past game. Better game?....? Then his worse are actually unwatchable cause I haven't seen him play much worse and I think I have seen every game of his. 🤣

What makes it all the more infuriating is that they will be cleaning the house WAY TOO LATE. In the scale of time to clean house we are past the point of developing a roach & lice infestation and a month short of being able to have the show Hoarders show up. A coach with 7 years in with NO post season wins a losing record overallshouldn't be given the opportunity to hit rock bottom at a program that tells its students and fans they are serious about winning. If TSU had a few more quality athletes that didn't drop on target passes that game would have been a nail biter. I am starting to think we have a football program to give our great band showcasing opportunities and advertise for our world renowned music school. This is how you end up with Portland State debacles (Hoarders week 5 episode 2015 🤦🏾‍♂️) .

You sir are an AD's dream because you have crossed the line between fan and sucker. And you can get a good coach with 2 million per year. Keeping him here at a higher salary if he is successful is a different challenge that we should welcome. Having that mindset will eventually end the program being in the same level of football with Texas Tech, Houston, Baylor, SMU and TCU.

Nice to have dreams,. I will be dumbfoundedly shocked if they beat WKU.

I would be done critiquing Aune if he didn't have so many apologist on this board. If you compare him to QB who taken as many snaps as he has at the FBS level he is one the worst in the country. Minus quarterbacks running old school triple option who pass the ball less than 15 times a game he might be the worst. But I can only confirm that he is below 100th in completion percentage only because the stats I found so far stop at 100. But we are haggling over the amount of blame. No loss is 100% on one player but being handicapped at the QB position makes winning very hard.

Why are people downvoting this? Nobody’s perfect. Nobody on the team is perfect and there are always more place to be made. However, if your quarterback can’t even threaten to complete 70% of his passes against mediocre, FBS defense, you can lose to anyone. If a few more of Aune's mistakes in this game were taking advantage of, it would not have been close. Most games he doesn’t look like he deserves an FBS level scholarship let alone to be the starter. His numbers is may not be as bad as McNulty but that’s only a function of the type of office we are running.