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I didn’t think that at all.

I get what you’re saying, but if the Top 40 break off, you don’t think we’d be in the next 40? Surely we can crack the top 80.

I think the Top 25 I listed are in without a doubt. The only question for me is which and how many of the remaining 20+ teams join them.

Here’s a quick list of a possible Mini Professional league. I really think I would be great if the Top 30 broke away. That would leave a lot of name teams and I think would be nothing at all like DII, but rather a very good league that would have lots of interest. The point is not to argue the teams I listed. I know several on here are debatable and I didn’t list a few that could probably be here. This is not a researched list, so there could also be a few teams that I simply didn’t think about. Top 25 (in no particular order) Michigan Ohio St. Nebraska Penn St USC UCLA Washington Wisconsin Oregon LSU Alabama Tennessee Ole Miss aTm Texas Oklahoma Georgia Florida Florida St Clemson Miami Auburn Arkansas Notre Dame Iowa Next 20 (again, no particular order, but I did give state schools a bit more preference otherwise I would definitely take off Indiana, Illinois, Minnesota, Kansas, and South Carolina…and probably Kentucky, Colorado, and Virginia). Arizona Utah North Carolina Michigan St Kentucky Illinois Minnesota Virginia Colorado Arizona St Missouri Texas Tech Oklahoma St. South Carolina Indiana Kansas Mississippi St. Baylor Virginia Tech Syracuse

This is exactly what I’ve been saying. Let the top 30 or 40 be the professional league and let the rest of us get back to playing college football.

I’d have a hard time paying an athletic fee as part of my tuition while some of my classmates were making 6 figures.

This. I wouldn’t have a problem with the portal if there was a one transfer limit. A highly recruited guy goes to P4, but doesn’t develop as expected…let him go to a G5. On the other hand, a guy doesn’t get recruited heavily out of high school, but develops after a couple of years at a G5…let him go to P4. I don’t like it, but I get it. On another note: I understand there are cases where it makes sense or is needed, but I’m generally against P4 to P4 transfers and G5 to G5 transfers.

Chump change compared to some college players🤣

It’s absolutely ridiculous that some college athletes make more than professional athletes. Makes me think of the old Sports Illustrated bit: Signs of the Apocalypse. I stated this in another thread, but I strongly believe that the players are not the engine that drives the machine, it’s the universities. Ive got a theory that I believe to be true and hopefully I am able to explain it in a way that makes sense. Let’s say that next year, all the talent dropped a level. So Alabama, etc. had the talent usually associated with UNT. UNT had the talent usually associated with SFA. SFA had the talent usually associated with aTm Commerce, etc., etc. Most fans won’t care and most won’t notice the drop off in talent. All most fans care about is their team winning. If we had the talent level of SFA, but we won the American, no one would care that we’re not as talented. I’ll even go a step further and say that must fans would think we were better. Bottom line is that the universities are the ones making the money, not the players. No one is forcing them to play. If they don’t want to play for FREE tuition, don’t play. There’s a line of people wanting to take their place. I was working 25-30 hours a week in a warehouse while going to college, so forgive me if I don’t have sympathy for people who have the opportunity to do something that I wasn’t quite talented enough to do. **That being said, I don’t have a problem with legitimate NIL**

I disagree that we necessarily want to see the “best guys play.” I just want to see the group of individual players* who have been playing together all season. *this is how I will now refer to “team.” Joking…kind of, but not really.

Especially when the wealthy alumni are paying the salaries and it costs the schools nothing. Why would they ever want that to change?

Every post like this just causes me to have less and less interest in minor leag…I mean college basketball. It’s ridiculous. He’s a great player and he will help whatever team he goes to, but NOBODY is going to a game to see Johnell Davis play. They will be going to see Arkansas or Kentucky play…and I bet those arenas are pretty much at capacity no matter how good or bad the team is.

If you disagree with this, it’s only because of who posted it.

I completely agree with the last two sentences. The first one? Maybe, maybe not. I wouldn’t say I’m “glad” that the athletes are making money, but I definitely wouldn’t mind them making money via a true and legitimate NIL.

What I think is insane is just the way things have turned, not that kids want a part of it. My goal when I started college was to get out as soon as I could. Now kids are going to take a pay cut when they graduate. That’s crazy. I don’t blame the kids though. I blame the system.

I didn’t give you the barf, but it’s unbelievable that people are staying in college to make more money. Isn’t the purpose of college to be able to get a job and make more money? It’s just insane.

There’s no contradiction. The average fan/alumni aren’t paying NIL, it’s the big donors and corporations. And they’re only doing it because that’s the way it is under the current, broken system. My 2nd point is that comparing college coaches with college players is neither a fair nor equal comparison.

1: One big problem with the NIL (aka pay for play) is that the universities are what draw the fans, not the players. People argue that "they deserve a piece of the pie", etc., but the big money comes from rabid fans and alumni of the schools, not from fans wanting to watch certain players. I wish they would form a minor league football and see how much interest there is...wait, we already have that. It's called the XFL, USFL, UFL and the players don't make much money ($5,500/wk) and there aren't many fans at the games. Put the Rengades in Alabama uniforms and the Stallions in Auburn uniforms and you'd sell out AT&T stadium. Why, because the players don't matter, the universities are what matter (as it pertains to attendance). Another example is the NBA D-League. What kind of money are those guys making? (I'll save you the Google search, they make $25K/yr). I have to assume that's peanuts compared to many of the NIL deals players are getting. If you want to get paid, go pro. Nobody is making you go to college to get a free education that will benefit you for the rest of your life. 2: I hate the argument that "coaches make big money and can leave for another job whenever they want to." See the last two sentences of the previous point. If you want to be able to do that, go pro. Make it your career just like the coaches have done. There are a very limited number of head coaching jobs at the college level and these coaches have put in LONG hours and worked their way up to the positions that they are in. Nobody was giving them millions of dollars when they were a GA busting their tail for nothing.

As it stands now, I think it’s a valid question. What needs to happen is that the top 30 form their own league. That leaves the G5 with a lot of really good teams that would draw lots of interest. For example, if aTm and UT are the only “big boys” in Texas, there will be plenty of interest from Tech, Baylor, TCU, etc. Now, will my scenario ever happen? I doubt it as it’s too good to be true.

Hidden camera on cousin oliver:

I wonder where he’ll play his senior year?

My initial reaction is “Please let this happen.”

4.9 yards per carry is pretty good, but when you get that average from 10 carries for 49 yards over two seasons…I think we’ll be okay without him.

No doubt that’s true. I can’t begrudge someone like Rubin who has been here 4 years, given a lot to the program, and gotten a degree. Good for him for all of those things. Plus, I believe he only has this year due to COVID, so there’s that in his favor as well. My issue is nothing personal, and is admittedly shallow, but going to another school taints his legacy here to some degree. Kind of like Emmitt Smith playing for the Cardinals or Michael Jordan for the Wizards. Plus, he’s leaving MY university, so I’m obviously not happy about that. I don’t wish most of our portal guys well, nor do I wish them ill will, but I do hope things work out for Rubin the way he expects.