Ryan Munthe

So typical, you can't actually give an argument without sounding like an arrogant prick. Nevermind.

He was insulting me because I don't believe that a G5 lawsuit would work.

Furthermore 90... You love to rail against "whore games" but what you don't understand is that the only way to win a national championship as a G5 would be to play two "whore games." Think about it. WMU did exactly what you want. Scheduled cream puff P5, beat them, beat their schedule, undefeated. No playoffs. Or, you can take the Houston route. Schedule a pseudo-whore game (OU paid UH, even if it was a neutral-site in the end), beat the P5 team, kick serious ass, but then let rumors of your coach leaving to better opportunities distract the team, resulting in a few losses destroying your playoff chances. In G5, you can be the WMU, or you can be the UH. Guess what? Neither went to the championship. G5 players are the ONLY NCAA PLAYERS who are UNABLE to play for a national championship. Completely unfair bullshit. I'm tired of the P5 bullshit. We are in the strongest G5 conference (check bowl records vs other G5, AAC is flash and talk) and nobody in CUSA would ever get a shot. Like...this is why even Vandy recruits better than most G5 schools. "If we went undefeated, we would be in the playoffs. At UH, you'd have to pray you got a Top 10 ranking." 90, why don't you take your trigger finger off the downvote button and actually discuss the topic without being rude because I'm genuinely interested in your thoughts.

I don't want UNT to be so much less. I just want us to win, plain and simple, at whatever level we play at. Our goal needs to be to win at this level and be one of those in-between schools as far as the fanbase goes (Southern Miss, Marshall, etc). If we can do that consistently, then you move onto the next step. As of now, we aren't consistent winners in the conference and division we are in, and we don't sell out the stadium. My argument is simple: UNT needs to support what helps it WIN NOW and put butts in seats. I'm not sure, in my honest opinion, that the HoD being our national championship is going to let us be consistent winners or put butts in seats. A playoff system that we can feasibly compete in will. This is hotly debated I know, I just feel that a playoff championship where we play a UCF, Houston, Southern Miss, etc is a good thing and would mean something, especially with media backing. It's a lot different than playing Youngstown State on the Ocho. No G5 will ever be able to beat the Bamas and Ohio States of the world. They have the most resources, fans, money, recruits, etc. They have a monopoly on championships. Boise State can't compete with them...hell, even TCU can't. That is why I support the playoff system. We don't bring 100K to fans and attract the very best athletes and if we won our conference EVERY YEAR for 15 years then maybe we'd be that level but that would be unheard of. In G5, you will always be hampered by money, perception, recruits, scared P5s, money games, and the risk of losing your coach. UH is finding out the hard way that there is no way up anymore for the G5. There is no glass ceiling. We are now FBS 1-AA. There is absolutely no way that a band of NIUs and UNTs can take Alabama and the NCAA to court with all their lobby and clout and win. I just don't see it. What are you going to take them to court over anyway? Antitrust? How are you going to plead your case when Bama shows their cash flow and fanbase compared to ours? Their recruits? They're simply going to argue they are a higher level. That's because THEY ARE. It's over. We're out in the cold. What we can do is WIN and FILL APOGEE. Sorry if this sounds pessimistic, I'm just looking at the playing field from a realistic and historical view.

Well, unfortunately as much as I'd like to agree with you, you're crazy and delusional. This whole argument is hypocritical. We barely average 20K. We might as well be FCS. Just WIN, baby.

So you are delusional enough to think a bunch of "Little Sisters of the Poor" G5s would be able to successfully sue the NCAA, which up to this point, has shown to have a stranglehold over judiciary and an immensely strong lobby?

We are already irrelevant have nots. G5 is the only division where a player cannot compete for a national title.

And just because you repeat the same thing doesn't make it true, either.

This year they absolutely were

I still refuse to believe that recruiting rankings are the be all end all. Our issues in Mac's final year were things behind the scenes. Littrell took one of the worst ranked recruiting classes and nearly beat one of the better G5 teams in a mid-tier bowl game. My two cents. If you get players who fit your system and you're a good enough coach, you overcome recruiting flaws. Much like if you're a bad coach but a good recruiter you don't magically win games (UT, for example.)

The band director was trying to get the band and student section to do it, we did it a bunch of times but small comparatively.

I completely agree, I just feel like with today's coaching climate in the G5 that having a coach who is at least willing to finish the job (three years, hand over the reins gracefully) to leave is better than just dumping your dealer car at the airport and not tell anyone for three days.

Kind of. Emmitt is suggesting he's more of a Johnny Jones type guy. If so I'd say he wouldn't be that interested in A&M. I'm simply just wondering whether we should only worry if one of the Oklahoma schools come knocking. I mean Herman did leave to his #1.

He would probably leave for Tech, because of the proximity to Oklahoma. Would he leave for A&M? That's more or less the question.

Glad to hear you dug the Art Car! Thanks for stopping by. Was nice to meet a few of y'all.

I just don't understand the reason these folks won't go to Denton. With traffic and the horrific exits at FP, it is so much better easier to park and get to Apogee. Plus Apogee is a better venue with way better tailgating atmosphere. And it's cheaper. I mean I met a few fans who were there simple because they live in the area and thought it would be fun. It baffles me. To put this in perspective...imagine Army next year. The 20K UNT fans from HoD, usual 6-7K students and 2-3K Army away fans. That's a sellout. I cannot figure out why people won't go to Denton. This bowl was shat on by every publication...so it's not like people were "omg gotta go see this game!"

I think the big deal with Littrell is that it seems very doubtful he would Herman us.

I'm not angry about this loss. We just got outplayed. I would appreciate major improvement from Harrell next year, though.

Exactly. Marginally less than before but not by much.

Lot 12 is closed. We are in Lot 11, on the other side of the gate from the UNT tailgate (the Embarcadero building or whatever)

Alright alright. Instead of "MF'in eagles" I should cough right??? Go Mean Green!! So pumped!

I can barely get through a sentence without coughing so I'll be there looking rowdy silently.

A near sellout of our allotment and few tickets on Ticketmaster is a great sign, IMO. HoD before was a perfect storm, this won't be that for us, but will be good.

I'm expecting a larger crowd overall, but less from us. Still would be extremely surprised if we don't set a record for HoD. We'll bring a large contingent as will Army. Just not expecting 38,000 UNT fans again. I really would expect 25K UNT, 15-20K Army. I think the casuals will buy into the turnaround story being played in the media. The date & time just sucks.

So what? So it just proves that CUSA consistently is one of the strongest conferences in G5.