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I'd argue Mike Ekeler was that guy while he was here. Hired gun/follow the money type guy that wasn't a particularly great coach for us, but he brought in some of the best defensive players we've seen under Littrell.

Kemon Hall was a first team all conference DB. In fact, under Reffett, we had a string of very good corners between Hall, Jenkins, and Brooks Edit: MGT beat me to it, but he forgot Jenkins

Pretty clear cut decision here IMO

https://meangreensports.com/documents/2022/1/24/2021_NCAA_Financial_Report.pdf?id=5356 Here you go. Football generates more revenue than every other sport. Expenses are also included

Baseball is cool and all, but let's get Football, our actual revenue generator right before we address baseball.

One is a generic feather. The other is the back half of the SOW logo. They are not the same

I mean we are recruiting against them. Gotta show the recruits who's the better choice

All true. In a pure Air Raid there's maybe 30 plays that are installed(if that), they then run those concepts over and again so that the timing and routes are exactly how they want them. The entire offense is based on pure execution. It's simple, but if you can run your plays better than the other team it's effective. We used to joke about Mike Leach and his notecard of plays. Seeing other guys with a massive call sheet with formations, plays, situations etc and he'd have just a single notecard with about 20 plays written on it for the entire game.

If Wren doesn't fire him after 5-7 wins, I'll be officially on the fire Wren train. Littrell should donate all his paycheck to Mason Fine and Graham Harrell. They got him paid. It clearly wasn't his doing

Austin Aune is Seth Littrell's McNulty

Mountain West is a good conference. Glad they have this option readily available. Can't wait to be in a real conference where we don't have to watch our games on ESPN 8 The Ocho Premium+ Do Not Go, Do Not Collect $200 brought to you by Clown Emporium, the one stop shop for all your clown needs Network.

OR we could just fire Littrell and get on with it

I was cracking up when the first depth chart leaked. Every position had 4 OR's on it Seth Littrell on the weekly depth chart:

Yeah, Littrell was friends with his head coach and he tipped him off. Harrell visited him and the rest is history.

Carthel still hasn't done anything at the FCS level. If he can turn in a 10 win season this year I'd be more intrigued but relationships or not, he's a .500 coach at the FCS level. Kinda hard to justify that, especially to big money donors. We need a winner

Me seeing Nebraska firing Frost:

Back to the original conversation. I think Wren's letter points to a bigger issue overall for him and UNT athletics as a whole. They're almost always reactive, rather than proactive. We hold on to coaches too long, we wait for the dumpster fire to happen before we make a notable change. The problem is being proactive can sometimes put you in between a rock and a hard place. Much like giving Seth Littrell a massive extension/raise when in reality all of his success was because of Fine and Harrell. It's the home opener against a perceived rival. It's gonna be one of the highest attended games of the year. He should've prepared for it

Helps having the best offense UNT has ever seen during that timeframe The flashy uniforms aren't as cool when you're getting smoked every other week

Agreed. It will be very telling if we don't have a 60% completion or higher. Even if we're up big. Like yeah it's the dick thing to do, but I want to see them throw the ball 50 times

I think another thing we're overlooking is the impact of Joel Filani as well. That entire offensive staff was insanely good at their jobs and are now all at P5's because of it

It's a catch-22 Mason Fine is the greatest QB in UNT history Darden, Bussey, and Guyton were all really really good, could even throw in Lawrence as a rock solid, dependable option. They made each other better. They ran the routes and Mason put it on the money more often than not Our current receiving corps could very well be better than those guys (although I doubt it), but the QB play is so putrid, it makes them look bad as well.

My in game tweeting is so apocalyptic and depressing many people have blocked me, and even former players have called me insane. Oh well. I'm a glass half empty kind of guy

While I agree there are plenty examples of great coaches that have minimal/no playing time, the proof is in the pudding with Shanbour/Bloesch. Unless Littrell is intentionally playing Aune over others for God knows what reason. The coaching just isn't good.

Conceptually sure, but career wise there's no comparison. Harrell was doing it at a high level against top 25 teams on a weekly basis. He could coach the reads/throws/angles/concepts/footwork because he actually did it week in and week out. Not saying Shanbour is a bad coach, but having that much playing experience is invaluable. You can only out-concept people for so long. Being able to actually do it is another thing completely. A lot of the fault can be placed on Aune because he's just not executing, but if he's not even being taught how to execute in the first place, who's fault is it really?

This is it exactly. Mason Fine was a stud and Graham Harrell is one of the greatest college QB's of all time. Those two made Seth look like he knew what he was doing regarding QB's. Now they're gone and he's lost. Mason Fine was good enough and coached well enough by Harrell for three years to still put up solid numbers with Bodie freakin Reeder. Watch this and tell me there's ANYBODY on staff currently teaching QB's this kind of stuff