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Yes, going on active duty or religious mission can stop the clock for a period of time. Many Mormons go on their mission after freshman year.

For all the negative post, i thought they would look worse. those don't seem so bad. Am I missing something, or maybe I am just uniform illiterate?

it would make the most sense that we are looking at DB due to another DB not qualifying. We should know soon enough.

Do most of you think we will go 2-2 in OOC play?

That could mean anything

What is this marching band you speak of?

I am pointing out that he raised ticket prices after a 4-8 season and this is the first time I have seen anyone mention it (I may have missed it if it came up before).

Damn, I love the idea of closing all the cafeterias except for the one inside the stadium. That is thinking outside the box.

RV is a genius. He figured out a way to raise ticket prices without anyone realizing it until now due to the overall cost going down. Then, next year prices can remain flat, but still milk the rubes. Brilliant!

I think our final camp is coming up on Friday, which will include our top targets. It will be interesting to who attends and what, if any, commits we get over the weekend.

My point about the athletic scholarship approach vs student loans approach is that you have one group that, exchange for receiving an education, are required to participate in a sport for 4 - 5 years in exchange for getting the cost of their education mostly covered. Indentured servitude You have another group that, in exchange for receiving an education, are required to repay their student loans for an undetermined amount of years, for getting the cost of their education mostly covered. Indentured servitude. Like I said in an earlier post, I don't have a problem with the kids getting some additional money, but it sure seems like it will be the beginning of the end. I agree that it is fool's gold to think we will somehow be able to keep up. The governing body (NCAA) will have to increase subsidies (taxes) on the P5 (rich) in order to allow the G5 (middle class) to conitnue the illusion of keeping up. Or, the G5 could grow and backbone and stop spending their way to poverty in the hopes that the P5 might let us joint their club one day. Until the day comes that the G5 says enough and goes their own way, they will always be at the mercy of the P5. And we know that the NCAA is basically controlled by the P5, so...

What is it called for the kids that rack up $20k-$100k in debt and spend 10-20 years in debt to Uncle Sam?

I have no real issue with the players getting extra money. Most do not realize the time and sacrifice that college athletes make.

So playing college sports = slavery? That's a bit of stretch, even for you.

Here is a link to a UNT website that shows the average annual cost of attendance, as provided by the university. If I am reading it correctly, the COA figure should be roughly $3,100. It will be interesting to see the final number that gets published. http://financialaid.unt.edu/2015-2016-academic-year-traditional

Flute vs Clarinet? Question, no info.

All Mac has said is that McNulty is way ahead. To me that just means the guys that are/were here. Smith is an unknown so McNulty is ahead of him until proven otherwise. I mi believe Smith will be given a shot, although it will be tough with only a few weeks to impress. Two weeks before 1st game I expect Mac to know who his starter will be. At least the opening week bye gives Smith a slightly longer window of opportunity. It's a darn shame he missed Spring, but he has nobody to blame other than himself for that.

Seems like a pretty good idea. Looks like it may be targeted to non MGC members in the DFDub. Hopefully, that will add a couple of thousand unsuspecting alumni. They should promote free GMG.com membership as well!

19. Mac ALWAYS goes bowling after a 4-8 season

I think my standards are realistic. Averaging at least .500 across the 3 major sports would be a huge leap for us considering where we are now. I don't disagree with the sinking of men's basketball. We took a chance on an assistant from a proven program and he proved that he was in over his head initially and this year should be a good indicator of whether he is going to be able to get over the hump. I still feel good about having Mac as the face of our program. Even with the inconsistency, I feel he has restored some legitimacy. If he will focus more on managing his coordinators and helping with boosters and less on the details (I.e give his assistants the freedom to run their units) I think he can be very good for us. The jury is still out on Jalie. I fear there may be a few lean years while she learns the ropes of being a head coach. Mad it stands right now, I feel the following items should be at the top of RV's list: 1. Fund cost of attendance 2. Fish or cut bait with Benford (he either shows improvement this year or he has to go) 3. Eliminate football payday game and replace with 2 H/H series 4. Find the necessary funds for indoor practice facility 5. Fund the baseball program Every one of the items on the list requires money. Lot's of it.

We are winning in Apogee. It's away from Apogee where we have a problem... I also forgot to mention that during RV's tenure, we have appeared in 2 of our 3 total men's NCAA tournament appearances in history. Also during RV's reign of terror, we have played in 5 of the 7 total bowl games in our history (5/14, still needs to be 50%+). I hate to come off as a supporter, because I am actually on the fence with RV. I recognize some of the positive things he has done, but I still feel like there should be more. The big 3 sports should maintain records at or above .500 for example. I haven't taken the time to look at the other sports to see what our results have been, but I know that there has been some success in those sports. As Oldguy pointed out, you might be surprised at what executives in the 'real world' get away with.

You specifically questioned whether RV should be credited with going from 1 to 4. He had nothing to do with the fact that he started with 1. Am I missing something? We spent 85 years building up to 1. In 14 years we are now at 4. I can't disagree that 4 still seems bad when compared to P5 schools, and probably the top tier G5 as well, but it would be interesting to know how our growth compares with our conference mates during that time.

And the prior sins are RV's fault? If I am RV's manager(s), I have to look at how things were when he got here and what has occurred since that time. You may not be happy with where we started, but it is what it is. A better question might be, why were we at those beginning levels? The point about growing by 850 members compared to graduates seems intriguing. I wonder, when compared to our conference mates during the same time, where we rank. That would help me evaluate RV's real performance. I have no way of knowing if adding 1% of graduates is good or bad. On the surface it sounds bad, but it may actually be good. I am trying to look at what the BOR might be looking at in order to justify rewarding RV with an extension. They are not stupid people.

Plying devil's advocate, if it were so easy to fix at North Texas, why hasn't it been fixed in th the prior 85 years. I mentioned that the numbers went from really putrid to slightly less putrid. What is the annualized growth rate of 400% over 14 years. These ARE real numbers.