meangreener

I love the Stars. Go to multiple games a year. Attendance has been garbage past few years. Last year was an improvement.

One of many things...this is most noticeable. Formerly, you had the best view of Downtown. No longer. Also blocks the train. Is also ugly as shit. Won't repainting all the faded green on the exterior because it's too costly now...told fans to open their pocketbooks. Also, to make it clear, I'm not saying Houston isn't a bandwagon town. It is. DFW is just more severe. Texans have sold out every game as did the Oilers until Bud announced he was moving the team...so the Texans thing is unlikely. Astros...maybe at this point because our attendance has been so bad for 3 years but we sold out every game in the Killer B era from 04-07ish. Houston is a bandwagon town, all cities are, look at all the Ranger gear and lack of Cowboy gear down there. DFW is a bit more extreme, however.

Um, Astros are an exception...we've lost legions of fans due to the AL move, the embarrassing budget, no TV deal, ruining Minute Maid Park, poor marketing, trading away every fan favorite, overcharging for tickets, not allowing coolers (until this year), overcharging for food, no game promotions, etc. A fanbase can only take so much neglect. Astros have historically had really good attendance and averaged over 30K at Minute Maid until 2010. Astrodome attendance was quite solid year in and year out as well even as it fell into disrepair. And up until the last few years, UH was regarded as a community college in the city and didn't really have much history to lean back on. That's like calling Philadelphia a bad sports town because Temple has/had bad attendance. The Oilers, Rockets, Texans, Dynamo (hell, even the Aeros until they moved them) had incredibly solid support. Love Ya Blue? Astros sellout streak from 04-08? DFW is 100% bandwagon town. Not as bad as Miami though. But every team except the Cowboys has had attendance problems...and the Cowboys would if Jerry wasn't in the pockets of every businessman in town...that stadium is all suits and no fans, even Aikman noticed it.

I've heard through the grapevine that it's a non-issue. Maybe it'll become a problem if we sell out every game, but that's unlikely. There's no way UNT will let visiting fans sit behind their teams. As in Young Alumni section just something to appease CUSA. They won't enforce it because it's GA (essentially, they're making this kind of a second version of the student section.) I have heard this from some usually reliable sources. We'll see tonight and then on Saturday. I'm going to be sitting at my usual spot on Saturday.

I think we see shared QB responsibility between DT and Dajon with Berglund sitting behind them, then McNulty at the back.

Okay, back away from the panic button. This town is a bandwagon town unlike any other. They only support a winner. There were very, very few Rangers fans prior to 2008. There were no Mav fans prior to Dirk. There are not a lot of Stars fans left anymore (sad.) SMU gets publicity but has horrendous attendance and no fans...the only reason SMU gets any publicity is because they're known (mainly for obvious reasons.) TCU won recently. The only exception is the Cowboys, but it's starting to look like even the Cowboys are fallible these days. Personally, I'm amazed that we average 18K despite being SO BAD and the local sentiment around UNT in a bandwagon town like this. The growing disconnect in personality between D/FW and Denton doesn't help things, either.

Yup. Heat won't matter. This game is gold for alumni and students are new to campus and haven't had very long for apathy to set in. 27K minimum.

Forgot about them. This won't be enforced.

UNT 24 Idaho 7 28.5K in attendance

UPDATE! Flying Worm shirt Friday or Saturday morning @ Apogee store. If the dude working there is accurate.

My point...nobody will sit there until later in the season. It also won't help they've told students all summer at Orientation about the old student section.

Honestly, the students will just bleed into it, unless we are going to have an empty section in the middle. The student section seats are death in the heat. I wouldn't pay for them for a 3:00 kick or a 6:00 in August or September. The students bleed into the lower bowl end zone which is paid all the time. This is confusing, frankly. I don't know what's going to happen. In other news, gonna run by the bookstore and look for the Worm shirt.

Well, honestly, they'll have problems telling the students to move. They get there before the yellow shirts did and last year when one was confused over where the students were supposed to sit, the frat people kind of went off and, well, yeah, y'all get it. It was rough. I'm not going to the student pride thing tonight, but that's where they introduce the freshman to traditions, songs and tells them where to sit. I know people who are going, I'll keep y'all updated.

And, looks like nobody else really has them right behind the visiting section, the current CUSA members, at least. Sorry, don't want to hurt any scholarshipped players feelings.

Can you get us any more information on this? Since this was so late, I'm going to be surprised if they have even sold any "Young Alumni" seats...if they are GA, etc. This could be terrible. Like it or not, the students are the major impact on why Apogee has a huge homefield advantage.

They haven't. No school with the students behind the visitors have. Except us. It's also not in the 2013 handbook.

Well the Talons don't do anything except for make up dumb chants. But yeah, the band. We've never done young alumni and I don't know who is dumb enough to sit there, frankly. When I graduate, I'll go sit on the actual alumni side...

I'm just saying, the students will fill up before the "young alumni" show up. So the yellow shirts will have to move the entire student section. Also, I find it likely they'll just sell these tickets as a GA. It'll look like crap come home game 4. Furthermore, where are the band and the Talons going to sit now?

You've gotta be freaking kidding me, right? They do realize nobody will be able to enforce this, right? I'm sitting in my traditional spot, as will the Talons. But are they going to be selling seats in this section? Like, I mean, tickets with the actual seat numbers on them? This won't go over well. So we butcher the fight song and then ruin the student section? Good job UNT.

They aren't. Commuters are people who live outside of 20 miles from UNT.

You'd have to be deaf and blind to not see things on campus or the amount of people telling to go or the Mean green Fling which is pretty much just "GO TO THE GAME OR ELSE"

Us fans may enter with this but you have a 0% chance of the team thinking it. This is a huge game and they know it. Personally, y'all would have had a better chance if it wasn't this game, IMO. I mean, make no mistake, this is a money game, so y'all were chosen as a sacrificial lamb but still, doubtful anyone is overlooking.

They haven't had to do it in years. They're severely overbooked is why. I have RHA friends.

It's been growing since I got here in 2010. Pretty cool.

I almost think that Mac is really trying to light a fire or go a different route at QB.