meangreener

You're exactly right and I can smell your bullshit.

I'm stunned that there is an anti-Mac circlejerk as well. This place never fails to stun me. Ever.

This is, by far, the worst argument with the worst reasoning since I've been on this forum...3 years now. The worst.

I'm adding two new faces (not you GOMG) to ignore, such low football IQ. I can NOT believe that we even have "Mac haters." Did you have your head buried in the sand from 1990-2002 then 2004-2010, 90? How bout you, Ben? Tell me all about the insane accomplishments of this program from 1990-2010 besides the NO Bowl which did not improve attendance or garner national respect. Somebody enlighten me as to how Mac's job isn't the hardest in NCAA. He had 4 solid players, I get that. The other 18 were no names prior to this year after they taught them to play. What else? Dickey AND Fry clearly showed you have to WIN here but also BUILD A PROGRAM. We've never had a coach do both. We've had some great coaches fail here for reasons that SHOULD be obvious. Mac isn't so far and is building a program. I need some Advil, this has gotten to me way more than it should.

I don't get you. One moment you're all "rah rah rah" and the next moment you've already decided Mac will fail. Mac, in one season, brought awareness and respect to this program. Even Fry couldn't bring awareness nor respect judging by turnout. His first two seasons gained us respect with games like K-State. Y'all are delusional and make me want to lock myself in my bedroom. What a goddamn downer.

Well, that's my point in this thread. I'm not trying to argue with you here because I think you have a valid point and we're mostly on the same page, some aren't *cough cough*, but most of what you've described is Mac's doing. I came here with the intention of not giving a damn about football here and spirit until Mac arrived my sophomore year. You can be damn sure I'm not the only one. My roommate was a UT fan when I met him, now he tells me he doesn't actively root for them, he just doesn't root for them to lose because of NT's football presence.

This was the worst job in college football, gramps. Sorry you're in too deep to get that.

Furthermore, the fact book http://mexicofootballnews.info/northtexas2013.PDF shows that this myth of Dodge improving attendance.

Fair enough. But do they want to come in 2010?

As pathetic as this sounds, you do realize that last season was probably one of the best seasons in NT history? Like, ever? And, yes, I know about the attendance. I just said that. 5300 came to our Spring Game. Number has doubled. Doing something right.

Eh, I think we get a sellout as long as the game is close. Which I'm pretty confident it will be.

So Dodge left us with like, five players (amazing players though) and with the exception of Dunbar, they all underachieved with him. Your point, once again, is? Dodge apologist.

We just set an all-time average attendance record, had the highest attended post-October game and homecoming game in HISTORY and had 38,000 UNT fans at a bowl game. On TV, we went from sideline to sideline with no empty seats. Bet your ass the SMU game is a sellout. What exactly is your point because you are clearly talking out of your ass again. Edited by KingDL1 **** Please Refrain From these attacks *****

Exactly. Sometimes I tend to think Todge and Cougar King aren't too far off in their criticism of the denial that goes on in this forum. UNT was in a bad, bad, bad, bad place when I got here in 2010 even with Apogee being built. Shit, Fouts was literally falling apart. And then the MTSU game 200 people showed up at Apogee.

Yes, I do. Clearly the point is "jump on the bandwagon now. There's plenty of room." Because there is. Remember the MTSU game when maybe 200 people showed up max? Now let's look at the bad weather game this year, UTSA. 19K showed up and I was equally miserable at that game as the MTSU one, just not wet.

Well, at least we wouldn't have to deal with a successful coach proud of his accomplishments. The original headline was "Football is back at North Texas. Big time football. Even with Mac's comment and the new headline, how exactly can anything in this thread be bad? Dear lord.

The level of tired head I got from this post... Some people are in serious denial about how this program was perceived before Coach Mac. SFA was a more respected football program in Houston. Hell, I don't even know if most of my high school classmates knew UNT had a football game. But keep idealizing the past, go ahead.

lol

Like everything except the helmets. We really need Pro Combat Nike Uniforms...even ODU has them now.

Yup. He's gonna be upset when we beat the crap out of them.

DMN: http://share.d-news.co/g8CVXfF DFW is noticing. ...and of course the one comment is from an insecure SMU tool.

It's good that Boomer scares everyone, shows that we have a lot of new faces. Haha

I thought Greer looked better. He's really bad at sending pressure but that will grow with time.

Same here. Especially because we have good history vs Anaheim.

According to Vito, we had about 5300 fans. Wild. Tailgating was good too.