BillySee58

Digging the pass rush

Not sure who yet

Before the decision was made, many on here were saying “if the race is even close, we should just go with Ruder since if he has closed the gap that quickly, he’s probably the better QB.” Wondering if this was Seth’s thought as well.

It’s great he’s hearing the feedback and fans are submitting it. I think my biggest problem is that when there’s an issue on game day at Apogee, I’ve resigned to expecting it to just be something that will be an issue all game. The inability to troubleshoot and correct is more troubling than the issues themselves. But I digress on this. I’ll be at all the games regardless.

I feel like you’re interpreting my post as “wow our passing game sucks. What gives?” My point is this is year 3 of Mainord coaching the outside receivers in addition to the inside receivers, and in that time our outside receiver production has dropped off severely. In 2019 our top two receivers were inside guys (Darden and Lawrence) and our leading outside receiver only had 473 yards, last season our leading receiver only had 517 yards, and in our first game this year our outside receivers combined for 2 catches for 21 yards against an FCS team. Yes I would expect the chemistry to improve and acknowledge this is the beginning point on the QB-receiver chemistry. I’m just saying we probably need to start holding our Associate HC/Co-OC under the microscope more. Especially as it relates to developing these heralded receiver recruits and getting production out of the outside receivers he has now been responsible for over the last 3 seasons.

When the two-deep came out this week there were 12 players listed between the wide receiver, tight end, and h-back positions. 9 out of these 12 players were P5 recruits or transfers when we signed them, 1 was just shy of that (Jyaire Shorter), and 2 were walkons (Burns and Pirtle). Our two leading receivers yesterday were… the two former walkons. These two former walkons accounted for 142 of our 182 receiving yards yesterday. From 2016-2018 we had two receiver coaches; Joel Filani coaching outside receivers and Mainord coaching inside receivers, with no Tight Ends coach. After 2018, Filani left to go to Texas Tech and we hired Adrian Mayes to coach Tight Ends and made Mainord the only receivers coach, coaching both inside and outside guys. Since then our outside receiver production has been lacking. Mainord gets a lot of credit with Darden but at the same time he has higher caliber receiver recruits to work with then we have ever seen as long as recruit offer lists and ratings have been tracked online. He needs to start developing these guys and have the results to prove it. Same for Mays.

Yeah that’s exactly what I’m hoping for. Work in the sponsor without getting completely doing away with it.

It’s both. He’s not Ron Burgundy

He was really bad at identifying the players. For example, I remember hearing against SMU “pass incomplete. Intended for… Amani Gilmore.” I get confusing number 9 (Simpson) for number 8 (Gilmore) but you’re the PA announcer for the team. Simpson is a starting receiver and you’re misidentifying him on a pass play with our redshirting 5th string QB? He doesn’t have to know as much about the team as we do but come on, that leads me to believe he does zero research in between games and just shows up on game day relying solely on the printed roster he is given. Again, this was also not a one-off issue, just an example.

These are spot on and everything you’re saying had me disappointed as well. Also, the stats on the small scoreboard you’re referring to were messed up the last time we played as well. During that UTEP game at the end of last season that small scoreboard was displaying stats from the SMU game. So this isn’t exactly strike one there. I wasn’t at the La Tech before that one, do not sure if that scoreboard was accurate for that game at least. Here is a picture of that scoreboard, taken in the 4th quarter. Also the second digit in our score was not lit up. We get 6 of these a year. Feels small time to have all of these issues after a 10-month offseason.

RPO doesn’t mean the QB has the option to run or pass himself. It almost always means he has the option to hand it off or throw the ball depending on defensive alignment and leverage. We ran RPOs all night.

We typically have a lot more success throwing the ball in this FCS games than we did tonight. And we should have tonight as well.

Yeah I feel very similar. This game felt almost exactly like the 2012 Texas Southern game. Solid rushing performance against an inferior team but very underwhelming passing performance. Both games we failed to complete 50% of our passes and had more INTs than TDs. Playcalling felt pretty scared too. Ruder throws his 2nd INT and we pretty much stick to the ground from there on out. We should have been able to call any play we wanted and it didn’t feel that way. Gotta hope things look better after this. https://www.espn.com/college-football/boxscore/_/gameId/322520249

Thought it was interesting that ESPN’s matchup predictor gives us a >50% chance to win in 9 of our 12 games. Most of those are pretty close margins, but I was surprised that whatever metrics ESPN is using seem to hold us pretty favorably. They even gives us a 50.1% chance to beat Liberty and a 51.2% chance to beat UTSA, whereas it feels like most even on here are pretty much chalking those up as losses. https://www.espn.com/college-football/team/schedule/_/id/249

Another major roster update, but not from a personnel standpoint. Everyone’s grade classifications have been rolled back a year. We knew that everyone who played last season would be granted an extra year due to COVID, but the team (and many others) showed the players all having advanced a grade classification from what they showed last year. This has been rolled back. Players are now showing exactly as they did last season. For example, Loronzo Thompson is back to showing as a true freshman instead of a sophomore. This is also a change from what the two-deep earlier this week showed. Offensively we are back to just one senior starter now. Four on defense.

Thanks for doing the responsible thing. Hope you feel better and get to watch us go for 3-0 against UAB

The guy who backed up Mayfield and Murray (Austin Kendall) won the job at La Tech.

Definitely not the case looking at that other “ORs” lol

Looked at last year’s depth chart before the HBU game and Aune was listed first with Bean on the other side of the “or.” It was in one of Brune’s VIP articles so I can’t link it but just something to note that Aune being listed first didn’t mean he got first crack at it last season.

I’m talking about why he got cut, not why he didn’t win the starting job. You keep two QBs and Newton was neither.

I think it has more to do with the fact that Cam is not vaccinated and the protocol on a non-vaccinated player is pretty intense. If someone on the team tests positive and Cam was in close contact, he has to quarantine too. Basically puts you in a position where if anyone tests positive, there goes your backup QB too. Makes your QB depth chart extremely uncertain week to week, and not worth that level of high maintenance just for a backup.

I’ve said this before but the biggest problem last year was our QBs not being able to hold down the job. Aune was putting up big-time yards for a first time starter, then he had a nightmare half of turnovers and Bean lit it up. From there Bean struggled holding onto the job and was yanked a couple times. I really don’t care what the depth chart looks like as long as the position is solidified. If it said Ruder or Aune as number 1 now but they throw 3 1st-half picks against SMU and get yanked, it won’t matter that on guy was listed as the definitive starter.

No. Bean started both games and failed to move the ball against SMU which opened the door for Aune. I think Littrell wanted to just stick with Bean but he didn’t perform well enough to warrant it.