BillySee58

It is a good insurance policy. Unfortunately it's hard for that second qb to jump on board knowing you already have a qb committed. Giving a guy like Caleb Chumley a chance to play qb at first might be a good idea. Then if he can't beat out Connor Means then you can move him.

He just isn't consistent or accurate enough for me to call him a good qb, personally. Hope he proves me wrong this year. He was a combined 35-80 at home this year against Texas Southern, Troy, and South Alabama. That's a little under 44% completion percentage. Those type of performances against subpar defenses come far too often. He's been good enough for us to win 7 out of 11 home games at Apogee. We need to win 4, possibly 5 of our home games this year if we hope to qualify for a bowl. We can't afford performances like the ones DT had at home last year if we hope to win a majority of our home games this year.

That's Devante Davis. Not sure about Kelly, but he was somewhat buried on the depth chart and a guy coming in like Chad Davis didn't help his position on the depth chart.

Yeah, Means is a big time pull. I know Tight End isn't a dire need, but I hope we continue to recruit Chumley. His size and athleticism would make him a weapon in the passing game.

1 running back is definitely a possibility, but a lot of that will depend on how confident the coaches feel about our redshirt freshman Lewis, Rollins, and Evans after this year is over. Three running backs in the same grade potentially sets up a situation in which one may transfer. You never like to see that, but that's a reason why I see us taking two backs. More as an insurance policy. As for tight end, I wonder if we are still actively recruiting Caleb Chumley. He may be a case of a kid who wants to play quarterback in college and we probably won't be the one to give him that chance after the Means commitment.

We're going after some prospects with legitimate D1 interest. If we can have a breakthrough year on the field expect an impressive signing class.

My thoughts exactly. You never know. Could battle for a starting spot next spring. Hopefully not, but him having a spring to get some experience under his belt is only a good thing. Also, with an extra semester as well as a likely redshirt, Means could have up to 11 semesters paid for, plus summer classes. Kid could have a doctorate by the time he leaves.

Saw this on twitter. He's ours

I think we did on signing day. I looked at the roster and counted everyone on scholarship, which came to 79. Since then Devante Davis, Boone Feldt, Dustin Clark, Dylan Mcdorman, and Xavier Kelly have left and Richard Abbe has been taken off scholarship. That's 6 guys right there. With all of our 2013 signings making it in that would make sense that we have 79 scholarship players currently.

So Connor Means will be an early enrollee. That's awesome, especially for a quarterback. Does anyone know the last time we had a high school kid enroll early?

Davis is now listed as a commit on rivals fwiw.

With things picking up a little but in the recruiting class of 2014 I wanted to see how you guys feel we should fill our scholarship spots. We currently have 17 scholarship seniors on our team, and about 79 players currently on scholarship. This 79 does not include Oregon transfer Anthony Wallace, who will be a part of the 2014 signing class like Darius Terrell and Reggie Pegram were last year. This 79 also does not include walk ons how may be put on scholarship this semester (i.e. Kaydon Kirby). We will lose 1 qb, 1 running back, 3 receivers, 2 tight ends, 1 o-lineman, 3 d-lineman, 2 linebackers, 3 dbs, and 1 kicker to graduation. My prediction: 23 total signees - 1 qb - 2 running backs - 3 receivers - 3 o-lineman - 1 tight end - 5 d-lineman (3 tackles, 2 ends) - 3 linebackers (including Anthony Wallace) - 3 defensive backs - 0 kickers (could get one depending on how confident Coach Mac is with Zach Paul and Travis Tamez replacing Zach Olen) - 2 athletes/best players available

I am very happy to see us doing this. A lot of big time programs have events like this around this time. Tennessee had one called foundation week last week where they got about 5 commits, Georgia has one called Dawg Night, and I think Florida has one called Friday Night Lights also. Coach Mac wants nothing less than for UNT to be a top destination for recruits and not just a fallback plan.

I believe this kid is in class of 2015.

Beat ya to it on the NEO alum . Check the Akii Smith thread haha.

Same JUCO as Kevin Galbreath and Jeremy Shockey. Would have 3 years to play 2 (still has redshirt eligibility if needed. http://www.neoathletics.com/documents/2013/4/5/D1_Norsemen.pdf

Positives: We have some solid interest from some good players who have impressive offer lists and have even landed a few commitments recently. Also, Ryan Walters looks like a solid young coach and a very good recruiter. Negatives: A few commitments seem to be soft commits and those players are not shutting down their commitment. More positive: We will have a very good chance to further impress these players who have interest in us and the soft commits. A winning season could help validate the guys who pulled the trigger to realize why they picked us and be confident with that decision, as well as give us a good chance with the other players. Should be a fun recruiting season! If we win they will come! Not rocket science, but easier said than done.

We'll only return 7 scholarship receivers after this year is over if everyone stays. Only two of which has any experience so far in Carlos Harris and Derrick Teagarden. The others are Darius Terrell, Darvin Kidsy, Turner Smiley, Nick Schrapps, and Rod Lancaster. Good to see us add some talent to our potential future receiving core.

Momentum may be a little overzealous, but I like what we've done lately with the visitors, camp, and possible commit(s). Still haven't heard anything from Vito about Means, but I think we have a really good shot of holding onto Jackson.

Wow. Sounds like we have a little recruiting momentum going this summer. A few weeks ago it felt like we had none at all.

Hall was class of 2010

Interesting. Didn't know that about Ryan. As for McCoy, he came in as a walkon after he served our country.

I'll admit to being a newer Mean Green fan. While I didn't follow the team the way I do now, I did keep up with UNT growing up. I remember guys like Booger, Awasom, Cobbs, Jamario Thomas, all the way through Vizza and Dunbar until I enrolled at UNT in 2011. I want to know how you guys think this year's senior class stacks up against previous senior classes in the Mccarney era and in recent memory in general. 4th and 5th year players: Out of the 2010 and 2009 classes we signed a total of 26 high school kids. 17 of those kids were still here when Coach Mac got here and all are still here with the exception of Will Atterberry who graduated. Run down: 5 fifth-year seniors from signing class of 2009 (Thompson, Anyiam, Prior, Boutwell, and Hilbert Jackson). 7 fourth-year seniors, guys who never redshirted, from signing class of 2010 (Byrd, Chancellor, Abbe, Bellazin, Orr, Wright, and Olen). Finally, 4 fourth-year juniors from signing class of 2010 (A Johnson, Y'Barbo, Teagarden, and Dunham). 12 seniors who have been here on scholarship their entire college career may not seem like a lot, but compare that to a total of 4 last year (Feeley, Cantly, Phillips, and Atterberry). Not to mention 2 of those seniors are receiving some preseason all-conference hype (Orr and Chancellor), and 2 fourth-year juniors are as well (Johnson and Y'Barbo). Then you throw in FBS transfer Marcus Trice, juco transfer DQ Johnson, and former walkons such as Drew Miller and Darnell Smith. These guys who've been here together this long together make me feel confident in the leadership on this football team.

Happy birthday guys!

Yup, you're right. Graham is listed as a commit on our rivals page. Our school page is still there but it isn't active. Only thing that updates is the commits.