BillySee58

Tough team we got

I’m generally okay with him taking shots, as long as they’re in the flow of the offense. But asking him to create off the dribble or as a back-to-the-basket player just doesn’t help us.

Much better player when he isn't trying to create his own shot.

I assumed the answer was going to be yes they can, but the last time I read something it sounded like you only get it once a career, regardless of if your 2nd transfer is as an undergrad or grad transfer. Which seems counterintuitive because I know players were allowed to grad transfer multiple times without having to sit out. Jeremy Combs grad transferring to LSU then Texas Southern the next year without sitting out comes to mind.

I don’t know that we’re actually still recruiting Curtis. Seems like the staff is going harder after Oke and with Robertson signed we probably just get one more.

Give me Jack Curtis. Really good player, had some very impressive clips from camps this summer beating top ranked offensive lineman, and I’m sure he’d be very motivated to take on SMU every year.

He has been gone from the team and off the roster for almost 2 months.

Exactly. That’s definitely something that coaches need to be mindful of from a roster management standpoint. We have 44 players on our roster who currently have freshman eligibility and we’re getting 2 more through the portal in JD Head and Jay Maclin. We need to build some type of freshmen class behind them otherwise we’re going to lose 30+ graduates in one year with only 25 new scholarship spots to replace them.

Everyone who played in 2020 was eligible to return in 2021, even the players who were seniors in 2020. So instead of seniors graduating and getting replaced with freshmen, your freshmen got to be freshmen again and the players who left were transfers. Those transfers got replaced with outside transfers. I agree we need to hit the transfer portal hard. I just think we need high school recruiting to still be the lifeblood of the program going forward still. It sounds like the new rule is you get 25 spots per class plus you get an additional spot for each player you have transfer out, up to 12 transfers. So you could potentially sign 37 players in a class. I think the model should be to replace your outgoing senior scholarships with freshman and JUCO scholarships like normal, then replace your outgoing transfer spots with portal signees. This way you sign those high school players, develop them, and then when the players who get buried decide to leave or quit as they inevitably always have, you replace them with portal signees to supplement the players you already have in your system.

I disagree. The portal was not in its infancy stage last offseason and those guys I mentioned all still stayed. It was in its infancy stage when they were freshman, not recently. And our young stars like the Murphy twins, Gaddie, Adaway, etc all came back last year. None of them were poached away by P5s. We’ll see if that remains the same but I expect that to be the case again. Maybe 1 or 2 at most but you build a solid foundation of underclassmen starters, you’re still going to have that solid foundation when they are upperclassmen. Unless you go through a coaching change. That’s what the evidence has been thus far. And SMU, for all their hype on their portal usage only started 5 or 6 players from the portal out of their 22 starters. They built their roster through good high school recruiting and supplemented it through the portal. Not the other way around.

Listening to Littrell’s presser, it sounds like he’s looking to use the opportunity to snatch more high school players who are available due to the numbers crunch and wouldn’t be available in normal years. I think we see a mix but I’m expecting the high school 2022 recruiting to ramp up, not just the transfer recruiting.

It just doesn’t seem like it’s really playing out that way though. At least not at a widespread level. Seems like most G5 to P5 transfers have been guys leaving after a coaching change. Even for us, the only guys who have really left have been guys who were buried on the depth chart (encouraged to leave?) or guys who already had given us 4 seasons (Bussey and Cam Johnson). The guys we really invest in certainly seem to be staying. Look at our offensive line. All 5 are guys we signed out of high school, 4 of them have been here for at least 4 seasons. Our running back is a JUCO guy who played here 4 seasons, our tight end has been here 6 seasons, both of our defensive tackles have been here 4+ seasons, KD Davis and Tyreke Davis have been here 4 and 5 seasons respectively, Sanders has been here 5 seasons. The transfer portal has been here these guys whole careers essentially. Had Littrell left after 2018, I’m sure a good chunk of those guys would not still be here, but again that’s what we seem to be seeing. More of those transfers based on coaching changes, not P5s pilfering our players that we worked so hard to develop.

Defensive end Kenneth Dotson has also been removed from the roster.

This is our first true road game and the only one we will play in non-conference

https://247sports.com/Player/Tom-Trieb-46054978/

JD Head will have redshirt freshman eligibility and Stone Earle will have true sophomore eligibility, while Drummond will be a redshirt freshman. If those two both pass him then the path to Drummond ever being the starter here becomes hard to envision.

If we’re including transfers I wonder why JD Head is not included

The thing I keep coming back to on Martin is that I’m actually kind of surprised he didn’t take part in the Senior Day ceremonies. He still has two years of eligibility left, but I have no idea what he will choose to do. Him staying and being a backup who never plays, him transferring, or him moving on from college football really all do seem like possibilities.

Malik Willis threw as many passes at Auburn before going to Liberty as Ruder did at NC before coming here. At the time of pickup those guys were essentially the same caliber transfer recruit. Willis is obviously a much better player but the point is those pickups were on the same level. Not sure who Texas State got unless you’re talking about McBride. Unfortunately SMU just has a higher profile in college football. Especially with QBs. Guys like Gilbert and Buechele had pro athletes dads and grew up well off. SMU is just always going to attract those guys more than North Texas does unless we truly and clearly pass them on the field.

Yeah that’s everyone. Although the thing we forget about Aune is that he walked on. And maybe I’m being too optimistic, but I really like the Earle pickup. Just looking at his numbers as essentially a redshirt freshman, then assuming standard QB progression you would expect this guy to have become a 3,000+ yard/30+ TD type passer at the FCS level. And he had a 66% completion which is really impressive efficiency. I feel like with Earle we got a guy who was on track to become the type of FCS QB we want, we just got him a little early before he really substantiated that. If he had stayed and become a Walter Payton award candidate type player his Sophomore or Junior year, we probably don’t get him. There’s obviously risk and no actual track record of him becoming that type of player, but this is the type of thing you have to do at North Texas. You have to be a little bit keener and a little bit riskier with your moves than the schools perceived ahead of us in Texas.

NT 65 ------- Sam Houston 55

McBride is 4-7 from three today The rest of the Mean Green are 1-11 from three today

He has been back and looked fine. Didn’t spend much time out of the game.

The ball handing today has just been atrocious by the guys in green and gray.

Whoops, didn’t see this thread when I made the other one on Joseph