BillySee58

Yup. Also, take into account that we didn't sign any running backs last recruiting class and we may not be able to use any of our few remaining scholarships on a running back. Ivery may be our only running back recruit between the 2013 and 2014 signing classes.

I think Ivery will be more of a running back than a receiver. Probably special teams specialist first and foremost for his freshman year though

Absolutely agree. Two Freshman all-conference players and honorable mention guys like Buyers are absolutely worth it. And yes, the guys we have committed are key. Especially those receivers who had breakout years like Fonzale Davis and Tee Goree. Those two will likely have the big boys knocking on their door saying come play for a Big 12 team.

Yeah, when you're first team punt returner and kick returner it's kind of a foregone conclusion

Another thing that is almost certain is that we will not have the full 85 scholarship players next season, even if we didn't have any current players transfer or quit. Unless Mac puts some more walkons on scholly and no one transfers or quits.

He has to. Brett, you were right! Sorry for doubting you. Did not know that walkons put on scholarship after playing two years or less as walkons counted towards a signing class.

Link http://www.meangreensports.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/121113aaa.html

Thanks for the backup, John. But seriously, in the words of the great Admiral Ackbar "it's a trap." They're making silly statements saying Cyril didn't deserve first team. No need to argue why Lemon is better than Y'Barbo by pointing out why Y'Barbo, our own player doesn't deserve first team. That's what they did with Lemon, our own player, which is ridiculous. But you saw that too and gave them both their dues rather than bash one. And them for Denton America to tell me if I asked the players who they thought was better, they'd say Y'Barbo, when I've definitely had that conversation with many of them and they said Lemon was the best on the team the last two years. Not by much, but I have heard the players' takes. Both are highly respected and acknowledged and it's sort of a 1A and 1B thing. Still wasn't as ridiculous as the conspiracy that Lemon made first team because Mac recruited him and didn't recruit Y'Barbo. But you have he right outlook like always John. Be glad both were so highly regarded, and realize that both will have great shots at being the two first-team all conference guards next year with Will Simmons of ECU graduating and likely headed to the NFL.

Brian Calhoun. Running back who started at Colorado and transferred to Wisconsin.http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/brian-calhoun-1.html Jarvis Jones started at USC and transferred to Georgia, where he became a two-time All American and a first-round pick. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jarvis_Jones Oh yeah, and we have this Trice dude who transferred from OU and made first-team All CUSA.

Wells is a preferred walkon

Yes. This sort of worries me. All conversations about how good he would be for us set aside, I wonder if we might be sort of blacklisted at Travis. If you guys recall, we once had a commitment from Mayfield's teammate/classmate Hunter Siddons, an offensive tackle from Lake Travis. He was injured (concussion iirc) and we pulled his scholarship. Maybe we aren't much at fault for that and it might've been something we had to do, but I can't imagine that sat well with Siddons, the Lake Travis coaches, and his friends/teammates (Mayfield?). Don't know how close Mayfield and Siddons are or were, but it is something to note as they may in fact be close friends. That might have left a sour taste in Mayfield's mouth.

If we only sign 5 more than we can grayshirt, or even blueshirt another guy. Blueshirting would work because we have scholarships available after signing 22 guys. Here's how this works. If we sign 25 guys, with 3 being current scholarship guys who were former walkons (Buyers, Kirby, Macek) we will add 22 scholarship guys, but we are losing 17 scholarship guys and only have 77 guys on scholarship right now. We have 25 open spots for next year, but we can only bring in 22 new scholarship guys. We will have at least 3 open spots, so if a kid would be willing to blueshirt than he would have a scholarship spot assured to him. Here are some explanations of blueshirting. I've put this here before, but what it means is that a kid can come into fall camp as a walkon and get awarded a scholarship before school starts. He would then count towards the next year's signing class. The catch is that he can't have gone on an official visit to the school or have had an in-home visit with a coach. http://www.presnapread.com/whats-a-blue-shirt-anyway/ http://knoxblogs.com/evanseleven/2013/12/05/has-butch-jones-found-a-recruiting-loophole-vols-could-use-complex-stragegies-to-manage-brimming-class/

Coaches can't contact him yet. He also is probably still in Lubbock right now, finishing the semester.

He's a walkon. Likely wont here either, but you never know. He isn't costing us a scholly so no risk.

Also getting a walkon receiver from OU. Think he's from McKinney. Name is Cody barrow. Tweet isn't showing up for some reason ">

Very interesting. If it's true, would he be able to play right away, rather than sitting out a year, since he is not on scholarship?

I think Nick Orr is a guy we'd make room for. As for White, as long as we can keep our slots (Davis and Adams) and Willie Ivery, we don't need White IMO.

8, 2013"Committed"I'd like to keep Davis. He's a good corner and has good run support ability, but I hope we're still recruiting Howard Wilson from DeSoto. Some on here have said that he wants to commit to UNT but his mom wants him to stay committed and go to La Tech.

I wonder if Copa is our number 1 target over Christian Beard. I also wonder if we would take both of them with only a few scholarships left and some pressing needs on the d-line.

Silly. If you're going argue Y'Barbo's case then do that. Saying they might not even consider Lemon the 3rd best linemen on the team is just not true. Cyril did not look nearly as good at right tackle, but he did his job and was playing out of position. They're both studs and they were both rewarded for it. Don't worry, I'm close friends with a couple and have hung out with a lot of the lineman, offensive and defensive. They've said Lemon was the best lineman last year and this year. They all acknowledge that they're both good players and leaders on this team. As for it being political, I'm not going to say that's completely untrue, but these are the coaches picks.

Our conference is actually pretty loaded with defensive back talent. Conference tackle leader Michael Mudoh was relegated to second team at safety. It was not easy competition for Lee and it won't be next year. He's a stud for us whether he makes 1st, 2nd team, honorable mention, or none of the above. Things don't get much easier at cornerback. Bryce Callahan, who was second-team all CUSA this year at cornerback, was first-team freshman All-American two years ago. And he was a darn good football player this year. Part of it is that Buyers and Lee didn't have an overwhelming number of interceptions like some of their competition. But we know how good those guys are and how important they were to this team/defense. Honorable mention is no accomishment to scoff at.

Seeing talk like this makes me think that Cyril Lemon is our most under-appreciated player. Y'Barbo is more of a fiery guy and a damn good player, but Lemon has been our best, most consistent, and most versatile lineman on our team and maybe in our whole conference. Watch him pass block; he never gets beat and hes a road grader. Y'Barbo's good, but the other guard picked was Will Simmons of ECU, who most predict to be a top 10, some say top 5 guard in this draft. Y'Barbo being the third best guard in this conference behind Cyril Lemon, who has the best chance of any of our players to get drafted at some point, and Simmons who will likely get drafted this year is no knock on him. He's had a great season and luckily for us still has one more.