BillySee58

Looks like Apogee in the background at the very start of their video. I think he's Northwestern bound, but he had a good time getting the attention. And I don't blame him. If you think we had a twitter war for him, you should see the big name recruits who tweet stuff about every college they are interested in to get their followers count up over 10K. Those guys end up getting at it.

Weird. At the end, Vito lists the committed players but doesn't list caleb Chumley. I get that if Chumley grayshirts he won't be in this class, but Vito has Shaq Jackson and Johnavahn Graham on the commit list on the end, and they are reportedly grayshirting as well.

*Hey, Harry or mods: can we change to thread title to Nafees Lyon? Lyon picked up his third offer from Miami (OH). Plays for a school in North Carolina that has been littered in D1 players including 2013 freshman all-SEC receiver Marquez North (Tennessee) and 2012 freshman All-SEC offensive tackle and 5-star DJ Humphries (Florida). Lyon had 7 interceptions and 10 passes broken up last year. Highlights: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NPseUgTszwA

2 were exhibitions, which still counts towards the 5 max. Just not towards our record.

Coaches can't lead them, but open gyms are allowed.

If this ends up happening and we don't get X, I'd like to see the staff try and not grayshirt Chumley. Maybe not grayshirt Shaq Jackson as well. Should be a fun ride these last few days.

I agree, but our football program has turned things around. We have the resources and facilities to be good at basketball and football now. Something happened over the last two years and we are just not winning games in basketball like we used to.

I had stopped once it looked like our class was full, but please!

Yeah, Jimmerson was class of 2011. Redshirted so he'll be in his fourth year on the team next year, but still a junior. You know how redshirts work, obviously. Yeah, I wouldn't have used the term power back. But rather, a back who is more apt to running in between the tackles. Especially compared to Ivery, as Vito said. Yup, pass protection will be the biggest transition. Giving these kids the ball is often a smooth transition for true freshmen. Maybe the smoothest transition from high school to college of any position, outside of maybe kicker. Can't say I saw Collins play, but 6'2" 230 is about the same weight distribution as 6' 215, which is what Wilson will probably get up to. I'd maybe prefer 6' 210, but just my preference. As you said, how he runs is a bigger deal than what he weighs.

Yeah, gotta wonder if we pull a rabbit out of the hat on signing day. As for Chumley, I trust the coaches and the decision to grayshirt him. Also glad to hear he was on board with that decision and he wants to be here that badly. Disagree with what Vito said at the end about Chumley, or at least how I took what he said. I don't see what coming in a semester bigger/stronger and with a better understanding of where he will fit will help his development, at qb at least. Either way he'll come in with a chance to compete at qb and will get moved if it doesn't work out. Don't see how grayshirting will change that or help his chances as far as working out at qb. Unless the coaches just say "you're playing qb" next spring, which I doubt. But Vito's right, since that's what the coaches are doing.

That's why I wouldn't want him to get over 220 lbs. For a kid who is 6' coming out of a small school, I'm sure they'll be able to put plenty of good weight on him. But yes, I don't like coaches putting on as much weight as possible, especially on running backs.

Courtesy of Cooley. Wanted to make him a thread with his name so people can find it easier if they have an update. Defensive tackle from Bryan Adams in Dallas. Listed around 6'1-6'2" and about 300 lbs. also has a TCU offer. An 89 rating on 247, 1 point shy of 4-star status for the stargazers out there. http://espn.go.com/college-sports/football/recruiting/player/_/id/188955/joseph-broadnax http://rivals.yahoo.com/texas/football/recruiting/player-Joseph-Broadnax-158626 http://247sports.com/Player/Joseph-Broadnax-38721 http://ucla.scout.com/a.z?s=12&p=8&c=1&nid=7514780 Highlights: http://www.hudl.com/athlete/1524405/joseph-broadnax

Jimmerson will be a redshirt junior next year. The power back association he is getting is not because that's how he ran or that he was huge, but rather the fact that he is about 6' tall and has a frame to grow in. Especially from a school that small, his body will be exposed to probably his first legitimate weight program. Kids who come from the 5A power schools over here have seen programs as close to a college weight program as you can get. I played in one at Arlington Martin, and it is not a college weight program but it's as close as it gets. We worked out twice a day (during the period and after school) all offseason. College is a huge jump up from that. The jump up from Elkhart is enormous. Kid could easily get up to 220 at 6' while maintaining, or gaining, speed. Maybe bigger, but 6' 215 or 220 is ideal for me for an every down back.

They can't be in contact with our coaches during the semester that they are grayshirting. Not sure if you were saying that or not.

No. They grayshirt their first semester of college by taking less than 12 hours, delaying eligibility by being a part-time student. Example: Avery Fortenberry grayshirted for us. He graduated high school in 2013, but did not enroll as a full-time student until this semester. He is now with the team and he will sign with this class (2014) on Wednesday. He will be classified as a true freshman in the fall, so he can still redshirt. Essentially a kid can graduate high school, grayshirt, and then redshirt then play as a redshirt freshman despite actually having been out of high school for two seasons prior.

12 hours is the cutoff. 12 hours is a ful time student. Grayshirts must take less than 12 hours that first semester.

Good. Was hoping we'd get him. Ngalo to SMU and looks like Johnson, the DT from Rowlett, is almost ruled out. Maybe an outside shot at Johnson, but I'm not expecting it. That just leaves X. If we get him, someone grayshirts. If not we filled up the class with Wilson. What a skill position haul? Two running backs (Wilson and Ivery) combined for 4,422 yards and 63 rushing touchdowns! 63! Not to mention they combined for another 6 touchdowns receiving. Then you throw in the bonkers stats from our receivers (Adams, Goree, Rutherford, and Davis), 2 of which were first-team all-state selections, among players of all classifications, according to Dave Campbell Texas Football. And bringing in 3 qbs (Greer, Chumley, and Means), including Chumley who has immense potential as a receiving threat at tight end if things don't work out at qb. And we had two true freshman skill players who showed out in limited action lat year (WR Kidsy and QB Dajon). Asking for all of them to work out might be asking for too much, but you gotta figure some of these guys will become studs. Our class next year will be fun, and with 5 scholarship linemen leaving after next year we'll have plenty to sell to the new guys as far as who they get to block for.

Someone pointed out when he was ruled ineligible that it was the ballislife curse. If he doesn't end up making it to the court then we know who to blame. Same with Carrington Ward. If he doesn't end up playing here we can blame retroaction sports. http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1sOywt-Arb4

Bump for a semi-relevant update. Playing for San Jac, same JUCO as Carrington Ward, and is averaging 7 points and 5 rebounds per game. Shooting 40% from three though. Still classified as a freshman at San Jac due to playing at a prep last year.

Yup. Thought they might pull it off. They were answering UTEP's runs. Interesting stat: of the 7 schools that had a winning record in CUSA play in football, they have a combined 14-30 record in basketball. MUTS is the only school to have a winning record in both to this point. Of the 6 schools that had losing records in CUSA play in football, they have a combined 29-14 record in basketball. FIU and UAB have a losing record in both, but they're 3-4 in basketball with a chance at getting to or above .500. Frustrating thing is that this program is easily capable of being at the top in both. Hope to see it in the near future.

And watch this old clip. http://blip.tv/ballislife/6-7-greg-wesley-is-one-of-the-most-explosive-athletes-of-2013-6206868 Wesley is going to be a stud. I don't expect him to ever average 15 a game, but I think he'll be a box-score stuffer and a guy who just helps you win in different ways. Can play the 3 or the 4. Hopefully he's worked a little on dribbling with his left hand, but man he has a quick trigger and has some 3-point ability even if it isn't his forte. Adding him and Combs to the forwards we already have should be fun to watch. Hope Wesley's getting the classroom stuff figured out and will be ready to play.

Watching it from afar, had two kids from high school on the team during the dodge era in DT Joe Hawthorne and Jeremi Mathis, that's what I saw. Joe was the big brother of one of my good friends/teammate/classmate so I kept up with the program with him. Thought Riley would be a 4-year starter and at least get to two bowl games, not to mention when Dunbar emerged. When I actually watched the games it was just surprising to see them just not look like a D1 team despite getting some big names in recruiting. But yes, it was frustrating but I wasn't losing any sleep over it. Had I actually been invested as a fan in those teams it would've been a different story. Maybe this is part of my rite of passage into UNT fandom. Got to skip the Dodge era, so I don't deserve a pass on this.

Yup. What happened today was the fault of both. On a game-by-game basis, over the course of the season it's the fault of both. Our players have not been very coachable a lot of times, committing the same mistakes repeatedly. Especially on defense. Things are not getting better and personally, I don't trust Benford to be the guy to turn things around or get the players to turn things around. I've actually given him a chance, and still will. I just don't think he's going to do it based on what I've seen. Would not be opposed to him proving me wrong. I'll give much more blame to the players than 90 will, but I definitely agree with him as well that he's the constant throughout this whole downfall. It's been two years of underachieving, playing inconsistently, and having nagging problems that don't get corrected. Still time to turn things around this season, but another thing we've seen is "oh, we're so close to turning the corner," then we don't and we go back to square one. If we waste the senior class we will have next year then that's what it'll be for the program. Back to square one.

3rd 30 point loss of the year. That's a lot, all very frustrating.

But games like the one played in the cotton bowl on 1/1/14 and at Apogee on Halloween are.