BillySee58

1. This is interesting to think about. Two walkons in particular who have a chance to end up on scholly are Chelf and Zach Paul. Because they have played two years here as a walkon they would not count in any class. Plenty of other walkons who joined the team for the 2013 season who have a chance though. But we all know Coach Mac doesn't just give them out. 2. Possible 3. Don't know if the coaches would intentionally leave a spot or two open to carry over to next year, although maybe if they really like the 2015 class it's possible. Good to be able to carry any extra scholarships over to next year.

You didn't watch the national championship game, did you?

Got it. Well that would put us at 23 with the 19 signees. Still two short of 25, but I'm sure Vito will clear up why there is only one spot left, tonight.

How Tee and the other recruits getting late interest from bigger schools decided to stay with UNT: Tee asked the other recruits "you strong?" And they said "I'm strong if you strong." So Tee said "we strong then."

Skip! Didn't factor him in. I never saw anything that said we put him on scholarship. Do you know when he was put on scholarship?

I trust Brett, but I just still don't get this scholarship situation. With the 3 grayshirting we should have 3 spots left. 19 signees and 3 walkons count in this class. Why only 1 scholarship left? I don't know why it wouldn't be 3, since that's how many short of 25 we are. Not to mention we have 63 scholarship players on campus right now, to my knowledge, and we signed 14 more today (5 already on campus) who will arrive in the fall. That would put us at 77 total projected scholarship players for fall. So we have 8 left there, and 3 left in our class cap of 25. Why only 1 left?

Brett Vito article http://share.d-news.co/YAoea0U

The listed offers on the major recruiting services out to our signees. Going to count Caleb Chumley even though he appears to be grayshirting, thus would count towards next year's signing class. Offers may not have all been committable when these guys committed to us, but they were offered by these P5 (formerly BCS) schools at some point. P5 offers -Colorado (Tee Goree) -Iowa State (Fonzale Davis) -Missouri (Caleb Chumley) -Oregon State (Caleb Chumley) -Kansas (Caleb Chumley) -Indiana (Jalen Adams) -Iowa (Andrew Jones) -Purdue (Brandon Garner) Not to mention OU came knocking late with Andrew Jones and Arkansas expressed late interest in Tee Goree. Maybe more schools not publicized, not just with them but with the other commits. A few other notable schools we beat out for multiple players -Toledo (Fonzale Davis, Willy Ivery) -Colorado State (Tee Goree, Willy Ivery, Fonzale Davis) -Nevada (Chris Miles, Fonzale Davis) -San Diego State (Chris Miles, Tee Goree) -Houston (Caleb Chumley, Chris Miles) -Memphis (Tee Goree, Caleb Chumley) -La Tech (Tee Goree, Caleb Chumley) Offer lists are right up there with film for me as far as what is most important when looking at recruits. I personally value offer lists above film because I trust D1 coaches scouting abilities over my own. Although we all know some guys inevitably get overlooked. I don't discredit star ratings either, just below those 2 for me. Great class according to all 3!

Hafoka Olie will not sign today.http://northtexas.scout.com/a.z?s=353&p=2&c=1372697&ssf=1&RequestedURL=http%3a%2f%2fnorthtexas.scout.com%2f2%2f1372697.html

So he is enrolling in the fall, rather than grayshirting?

Here's an article on backcounting, from back when the SEC was the only conference enforcing the 25 scholarship/class cap. It became an NCAA-wide thing last year (2013 signing class) so I'd have to imagine backcounting is NCAA-wide as well. http://www.macon.com/2012/01/30/1885259/sec-clarifies-rule-on-back-counting.html

However many spots of the 25 you have remaining after all have signed from a class, you can exceed the 25 cap by that much in the following year. As long as you have at least that many players (the number in excess of 25) enroll at midterm. It's called backcounting.

That's what I'm wondering. We saw he signed, but nothing official from MGS.

We get to sign 27 next year, if that is the case.

If all 3 grayshirt then we will only have signed 22 for this class. We would then be able to sign up to 28 kids next class. So the 3 of them, plus 25 others.

#winthewest

Click my 247 link in the post you replied to.

About 90% sure he would sign today whether he grayshirts or not. I think grayshirts sign during their normal signing day, just get their enrollments pushed back. Edit: not as sure about that. MGS didn't report Shaq Jackson and Johnavahn Graham's NLIs. Maybe they are grayshirting and Chumley is not.

For those who really dislike the star system, Miles may be your guy. I'd say it's a shame he's not a 3-star (1 point shy on 247 at a 79), but it doesn't matter in the end. He's got big-time size, film, and offer list. Check it out. One of the best offer lists of our o-line signees in a while. 12+ offers from schools from across the country, from the Pacific coast (San Diego State) all the way to the Atlantic coast (Yale and Harvard). Glad he settled on a school in between.http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Christopher-Miles-150444 http://247sports.com/Recruitment/Christopher-Miles-30226/RecruitInterests

Absolutely. Just like SSP said earlier, those Carthage boys are great additions. Goree and Rutherford. Great job by the staff locking him up and keeping him.

Beat me to it on Clark. Vandy lost a lot of commits after Franklin left, and they started scrambling like crazy. Good luck to Clark there. Also, Southern Miss has been signing quality d-linemen. No surprise, but they'll be tough competition in the West in upcoming years.

TJ Tauaalo

Sorry, not a fax. But a vine of our Carthage boys signing/getting ready to sign. Courtesy of the awesome Gabe Brooks. Also, if Fortenberry was the only grayshirt then we may only sign 22 this year (including the walkons, FBS transfer, grayshirt, JUCOs, and high school guys) if Chumley, Jackson, and Graham all end up grayshirting and we don't get any surprise signees today. A surprise signee or two would be nice, as would be bringing in one or two of those three grayshirting guys in a semester early for fall camp, but however many under 25 we sign this year, we can go over by that many next year.

Good luck buddy! Hope signing day puts a smile on your face when you wake up.