BillySee58

Good stuff. Really like the Commits we have. Just need more. And I know some are wary of recruiting high schoolers, but if you can get 2-3 solid starting seasons out of these guys, that value shouldn’t be overlooked or negated even if they leave early. That being said, excited to watch Mr. Atwood give us 4 starting seasons and multiple all-AAC honors!

Yeah, calling that statement petty is just silly. Also, something I haven’t seen mentioned much is how experienced the guys we have still are. At least the expected starters. Wood has 11 career starts and Nixon has 16. We have two linebackers who have proven themselves to at least be legitimate CUSA level linebackers. Like you said, still not KD’s level but not a duo that looks like a weakness either.

Fun fact: KD Davis played as many seasons for the Mean Green as Fine, Darden, and Torrey did.

I don’t think it’s necessarily bad advice just because he didn’t get drafted. He was a legit draft prospect and got a 2-way contract. He’s going to play in the NBA. Bad advice to me would be guys who don’t even get legitimate consideration for exhibit 10 contracts. From a draft profile standpoint, staying in school wasn’t going to help him. His shortcoming is his height, and staying in school won’t help there. From there you have to weigh the opportunity cost. Are the NIL deals really that lucrative for him? A lot of times NIL deals get thrown out like they’re sure things and that six-figure NIL deals are just out there growing on trees. Maybe he would, maybe he wouldn’t. But even taking an NIL deal and staying in college, it hurts your draft prospects the older you are when you enter the draft. Then there’s the education piece. So many of these kids aren’t pursuing a degree that materially increases their earning potential, because they’re really in college to play sports. Not sure if that’s true for Lofton but if a guy is forgoing the completion of his general studies degree, the lifetime earnings impact probably isn’t taking a detrimental hit.

The Bryce Drummond era! Say hello to your new LB1 🤜 💥

Right. It didn’t. I was talking about details on why he would make this move now. NIL deal, internal turmoil, etc. Clearly something changed and there was some reason he decided to leave after the immediate eligibility cutoff date, when he could’ve done it earlier when it made more sense. Hard to gauge how likely a waiver would be. Doubt the NCAA feels compelled to just start handing out waivers and basically nullify the cutoff date. Or maybe they don’t care. But those are the things I’m unclear on. Not the clearly known facts of the case.

It looks like they are still subject to the portal entry cut off dates. Even if they haven’t officially graduated or submitted graduation paperwork, they still have to enter their name in the portal by the cutoff dates to obtain immediate eligibility per this document. http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/eligibility_center/Transfer/OneTime_Transfer.pdf

When you say “free transfer” do you mean not counting towards a class cap? Because that was never the case unless it changed recently. They have always counted towards a signing class total. But I agree on what you’re saying logically. I just remember the last I read is that a player who already used his sit-out free transfer cannot use another as a grad transfer, or at least that was expected to be the case. But that doesn’t disprove what you’re saying about timing and being precluded from being subject to the cut-off dates. Guess we’ll find out for sure in the coming weeks.

I’m not completely sure, but I don’t think grad transfer is really a relevant delineation anymore. It seems you only get one one-time Transfer sit out free, regardless of grad transfer or not. And the portal deadline still applies the same for graduates and non graduates.

Yeah I posted in the other thread. Hard to understand how this move makes sense until more details come out. NIL does seem to be the most likely culprit.

Looks so according to this article https://247sports.com/Article/NCAA-transfer-portal-deadline-May-1-cutoff-primer-transfer-rules-186490612/Amp/

I believe that was the case last year, at least for basketball. Pretty sure last year the deadline was June 30th, again, at least for basketball. Sounds like this is under consideration at an NCAA meeting next week, but not sure what the current rule in place is.

I don’t doubt that. I just doubt the band programming would be so in-depth to the point that they would have other songs our band plays throughout the game (besides the fight song on scores).

Didn’t think so. Thanks for the confirmation.

Pretty sure they didn’t even have our fight song in the game, much less “Fly Like an Eagle.”

Would think he’ll have to sit out a year if going to another D1 school.

Was he not given a playbook the whole time they were gone? I didn’t say anything about coaches working with him over the summer, because I know those interaction times between players and coaches are limited. So not sure that’s the big “gotcha” to my points that you are acting like it is. Either way, it’s semantics that don’t detract from my actual point. His last start was his worst start, statistically. Rushed or not, the situation wasn’t improving. Older QBs across the country come in over the summer and start. My point is it’s really not exceptionally rushed by today’s standards (or even 4 years ago’s standards with the grad transfer rush). Transfer QBs have to improve week to week, even if it takes a little to get over the learning curve. It’s obviously a personal situation for you, hence why you feel it’s okay to take a somewhat personal shot at me. And I’m fine with that. But Littrell is the one who made the switch, not me. You keep telling us how we don’t know all the details, as posters close to players often do on here. Even if “how things went down” really is the reason things didn’t go as well as they could have for Jace, we didn’t see it. It’s only reasonable people are going to be in wait and see mode until then. Not like we’re actively rooting against a player on our favorite team.

He said he could care less. This means he cares tremendously, allowing for plenty of room for which he could potentially care less.

How much less could you care?

https://www.actionnews5.com/2021/09/09/tigers-gunnell-set-surgery/ Reports were that Gunnell was running with the 1st huddle before he injured his Achilles. Henigan had an amazing true freshman season. There is a huge margin between Henigan and what we have been rolling out. Not that hard to see him falling in between there.

I think we need to stop making it seem like Ruder failed because he was “rushed.” He didn’t have to be lights out by the SMU game. He was given time and by game 4 he started 3-10 for 13 yards, more than 4 months after he got to Denton. We’re talking about guys in their 4th year of college like Ruder was last year and Gunnell will be this year. 4 months of learning an offense that doesn’t have a ton of plays or read progressions, and 4 games under their belt, if they are still struggling and not showing signs of progress, that says more about the player than them being rushed IMO.

The worst experience walking into the Pit is when we’re coming off of a great season and good March crowds, and I walk in to a November game and it’s like nothing has changed from the Benford era and we’re back to square 1. Would sure be great if people took some pride and showed up to those non conference games because they want to watch UNT regardless of the opponent.

Tommy Bush has?

I think this is pretty good. A couple differences I have just from listening to Brune and John Fields’ breakdowns are: - Seems like Sifa Leota was the starting Devil this spring. - Gaddie was playing corner, and I think Whitlock was playing the EAGLE position as the 5th DB. And I believe Nick Nakwaasah was the other starting safety next to Crosby. - Jett Duncan got the most reps at Right Tackle in the spring. He is definitely good enough to play, just seems they are trying to find a spot for him and Right Tackle is the most open spot. But at 6’2” we’ll see if he can get it done at tackle. - Not sure whose spot he would take, but it really seems like Jay Maclin is going to be a starting receiver. Also, I keep seeing people spell his name “Gunnels.” It is Grant Gunnell. No “s” at the end.

HBU is D1