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UNT did have tall QBs who couldn't play. Greer's performances were not good, and Means couldn't pass up anyone on the depth chart. Chumley didn't show much either. Then the other QBs Mccarney brought in were listed at 6'3" and up, in Berglund, Cooper Jones, and Brent Osborn. Almost all of the high school QBs Mccarney offered were 6'2" and up. Usually 6'3" and up. The exceptions here were Mcnulty, who was practically family to Mccarney, and JT Barrett, who was one of the best QBs in the country and signed with Ohio State. Damarcus Smith was Chico going out and getting his guy, knowing that his job was on the line and if he was going to be a scapegoat he was going to go down at least running more of what he wanted to do. Seneca Wallace was offered 15 years ago. And Mac was calling the shots with QB offers. Riddle's dad said so on the board. That's proof that doesn't even require knowing behind the scenes moves.

Yes, it's 12 hours. But if you're under 12 hours you also can't participate in athletics.

Here's a 6' even pro-style quarterback committed to Notre Dame. https://rivals.yahoo.com/ucf/football/recruiting/player-Ian-Book-155371 Also has offers from Boise State, Washington State, and four other FBS offers. Even big programs do give undersized guys a shot if they have traits that can make up for their lack of size. Most college coaches are not like Mccarney, where he seemingly wouldn't even consider a player if he didn't meet his height requirements.

We need to lock this one up

Anytime a high school kid enrolls at mid-term they describe it as a financial-aid agreement, since they can't sign their LOI until February, yet are enrolling in January. I'm not sure what the differences are between that and a scholarship from an LOI, but I think that's what they're saying. I think they're just excluding any type of athletic scholarship.

Article on Fine from Damon Sayles, currently of bleacher report and formerly of ESPN. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2587478-how-record-setting-qb-with-video-game-numbers-finally-landed-fbs-offer

Yes, a Blueshirt is a guarantee. They only technically start off as a walkon in fall camp, but are put on scholarship before they have to actually pay any tuition. Here's an article I posted on here the first time I suggested this when we were getting close to the limit on the 2014 class. The more intriguing and non-traditional option is blue-shirting. Here’s how I described it an earlier article: “Officially, a player arrives in the summer as a walk-on. Once football practice begins, he’s awarded a scholarship. The school is allowed to count the scholarship forward — against the 2015 class — but the player can play immediately. There’s a big catch: The student-athlete may not have been recruited, as defined by NCAA bylaws. That means no official visit to campus, no in-home visits from coaches, no signed National Letter of Intent or athletic aid.” http://knoxblogs.com/evanseleven/2013/12/05/has-butch-jones-found-a-recruiting-loophole-vols-could-use-complex-stragegies-to-manage-brimming-class/

Way to be skeptical and pay attention.

Thanks for the information that his visit was an unofficial visit. Once you said that it became very easy to piece everything else together. Next question is, why the blueshirt? I've said it before, but the reason that doesn't make a whole lot of sense is because that's a move used to save space in a large class. Space is one thing we seem to have.

Yeah, it actually is pretty sad in a way. I don't know him personally, but it's sounds like (as is the case with a lot of athletes) that's just all he knows is being a football player and doing what he's supposed to do as a football player. It's hard to grasp the concept of voluntarily not doing football activities and focusing on something else. I remember my senior year after we got knocked out of the playoffs by Trinity, I woke up the next morning in shock. I literally didn't know what to do, with going in for Saturday film not being an option. I laid in bed staring at the ceiling for 30 minutes until my dad walked in and said they showed the highlights and I had a nice block. Being done with a sport when you've invested so much into it is just a weird experience.

Williams did commit to Wisconsin

I'll save everyone else the time. Here's a slideshow of 10 short QBs who played in the NFL. http://espn.go.com/nfl/photos/gallery/_/id/8395099/version/mobile/short-quarterbacks They tried to make one for short QBs who didn't make the NFL, but their server wasn't large enough.

I'm sure he's been very busy with Capper trying to figure out a way to get Eli Howard removed from our official roster. I'm sure they'll get that taken care of after the next men's basketball game against Southern Miss on March 4th.

The thing is, you look at the best teams in our conference like Marshall, La Tech, Southern Miss, and WKU and they're doing it with signing classes filled with players who had 3+ other FBS offers. That being said, they also all have key players who had less than that, and sometimes even no other FBS offers. The range I usually say is 1-3 kids per class where we are their only FBS offer is a good number as long as we are in CUSA. Especially as long as you are filling the rest of your class with players with good offer lists. You just really start playing with fire the more prospects like that you get. In 2012 I want to say 13 of the 22 high school kids we signed had 1 or no other FBS offers. And the production from that class has just been terrible, in all honesty. Especially when you look outside Carlos Haris. The key is that when you get those players it's because you want them and really see something in them. Not because you can't get the kids you actually want because you can't win a recruiting battle.

You're missing the context of his post and the post he was responding to.

https://baylor.n.rivals.com/news/baylor-offers-2016-juco-dt Will take an OV to Baylor this weekend. Will host Baylor, Indiana, and UCF coaches on in-home visits this week. Claims to still be a UCF commit. Looks like we're on the outside looking in here.

Not on Kilgore roster. No stats accumulated this year.

Good luck, Keenen. At least up there they'll spell you name right.

He just never took that down. I'm pretty certain he didn't even play this past season.

If we don't sign a full class next week then he technically can still blueshirt, but there would be no added value in that case.

The thing is, he told Vito it was a scholarship

Exactly. I don't see why they wouldn't save spots to use for next class, when they'll have the full cycle to recruit. Honestly, it would make more sense if he were a PWO, but he said scholarship to Vito.

Exactly. Still no tweet from that account about Fine's commitment like they have for all the others, usually within an hour of the announcement, sometimes before. The thing I don't get is blueshirting is a maneuver used when a class goes over the limit. We aren't even close. It's a weird situation, but doesn't seem to be a straightforward commitment. Absolutely

The advantage is for the coaching staff, in that the player(s) being blueshirted will count toward the next class. In the event that this kid were blueshirted and put on scholarship in August rather than introduced with the class this February, then he would actually count towards the 2017 class, allowing the coaches to sign 25 recruits this class outside of Fine.

Exactly. I have no clue why it wouldn't have been an official otherwise. Blueshirt does make sense, because it would explain why the visit would be unnoffical and he would be accepting a scholarship, just not an immediate one. It would also explain why no tweet from the Untgridiron page about a commitment from his area code. If it were a Blueshirt they wouldn't be announcing it now, if he still has to technically start off as a walkon.