BillySee58

The insecurity is real

They also already gave two 2017 QB commits, including flipping Hunter Johnson (top QB in the country per rivals) from Tennessee not that long ago. We don't have to worry about Clemson here unless drastic changes happen.

Texas offered. He will probably exceed 20 P5 offers

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It's obvious the staff is jumping on QB recruiting for this class. I could see this staff pushing for an early commitment at QB, especially if they find a kid they like who is an early enrollee. With Morris and Smith set to graduate, an early enrollee could really have a great shot at winning the starting job next spring.

No. Too similar in M.O. to Benford.

No way. Look at RV's track record. Whenever a hire of his fails it can't be his fault. It has to be that the coach was this or that, and we need the opposite. Shanice Stephens, an inexperienced coach, fails. Inexperience is the "problem" so we need experienced head coaches like Aston and Peterson. Experienced, over-the-hill coach in Peterson fails, so the "problem" is that we need a fresh upstart who can actually recruit. Enter Jalie Mitchell. Fires boring Dickey as soon as he gets the chance, gets the polar opposite in flashy, offensive-minded Todd Dodge. Dodge doesn't work so we fix the "problem" of having an inexperienced an overly offensive minded coach by getting a defensive minded and experienced head coach. Mccarney fails by being older and out of touch with recruiting and unable to develop a QB and score points, so we fix that "problem" by getting a young, offensive minded coach. That's what RV said it would be all along. So, again, track record shows RV gets the opposite of each coach that fails. It's that short-sightedness both going into each coaching search and after each coach fails that has led to 147 games under .500 from his big-three sport hires over the last decade. As long as RV is still here, expect an experienced coach. Because the "problem" was that Benford was inexperienced, not that RV can't pick good coaches.

In 06-07 Butler won 30 games and made it to the sweet sixteen. Their coach, Todd Lickliter, was hired away by Iowa. They were set to return the core of their team, led by star guards AJ Graves and Mike Green. They were as heralded a team in the preseason as you'll see from a traditionally one-bid league, with program transcending players set to be seniors. They could've said "we need an experienced coach who won't squander these seniors' last season." Instead they hired Brad Stevens, an assistant. He led them to 30 wins that first year and two national championship games over the next three seasons. I know a difference there was that Stevens was an internal hire. Regardless, he had still never been a head coach. A different team could've hired him away the year before and they would've ended up very pleased with the product. Stevens is a genius and as good as it gets. But the gap between Stevens and Benford is so huge that many assistants could fall between the two, still be well short of Stevens, yet still be capable of being successful here. Even immediately, with inherited players.

Basically. Although in outoftowns' defense, he's maintaining that he wasn't a fan of the Benford hire from the beginning because of the assistant coach thing. At least his generalization is not only made in hindsight. If Littrell doesn't work out you'll see people saying not to hire P5 OCs.

"CHP was a bad evaluation for a number of reasons" Exactly. That's the point. There were misevaluations on Chan Ho Park, the individual. But those misevaluations started and ended with Chan Ho Park. They didn't extend to every free agent pitcher ever. Tony Benford does not represent every coaching candidate with no D1 HC experience. "But why take that risk if you don't have to? ... I am convinced UNT doesn't have to take a risk on an assistant. If it does it is a choice, and that would simply be a stupid choice." In the event that there were two hats, the first with the names of 20 D1 assistants and the second with the names of 20 lower-prestige D1 head coaches, then yes it is riskier to draw names from the first hat. But that's not the case. We're talking about a process that should be very extensive. If an assistant is hired because he displayed throughout a lengthy interview process that he, as an individual, was the best fit to be successful here then that's the guy we should get. Of course we need a guy making the hires to be a good judge of those sorts of things as well. I just don't see why people insist on us being narrow-minded and excluding people based on blanket evaluations in our coaching searches.

I agree that basketball is a lot different than football in that regard. At the same time, if the coach is a smart, good coach, is a genuinely good recruiter, and is a good fit here why should we exclude a guy like that just because he was an assistant? Benford hasn't worked for multiple reasons. The fact that his last job was an assistant role is a very minimal factor at best. CBL made a very good analogy to the Texas Rangers. When they signed Chan Ho Park back in 2002 and he didn't work out, John Hart vowed to never spend big money on a free agent pitcher. Spending big money on a free agent pitcher was not the problem. Spending money on Chan Ho Park was the problem. That being said, the two guys I want most are D1 head coaches in Scott Cross and Chris Beard. However, Chris Beard was a D2 head coach last year and I would've been just as thrilled had we brought him in after last year before he had D1 HC experience.

Right, but physical gifts were not the reason Mitchell could shoot threes and dribble the ball up the court. Those capabilities also contribute to an "overall" game that you mentioned, which you said you believed Combs was better than Mitchell. Just a friendly debate of opinion. But again, production is comparable and there is a reason for that. Combs is a stud.

Mitchell led the conference in three point shooting percentage and shot blocking as a freshman, and also could take the ball coast to coast. Combs can't do the first or third thing, and he is no where near the shot blocker Mitchell was. So overall ability and skill set I disagree. But he has been at least as consistent as Mitchell was during his freshman year. And effort certainly seems to be in Combs' favor. So production wise it does end up being a good comparison.

I've said it before, when I started keeping track of that I just thought back as many revenue coaches as I could remember. I realized after the 2014 UAB football game that we didn't just have a bad team. We had a bad coach who was hired by an AD who continually made bad hires. I have only really been following UNT sports closely since 2011. Those coaches I listed were the ones I could think of off the top of my head, and I compiled their record and saw how awful it was. Did not realize JJ was the last one before that. As for now why I don't include JJ, because as of now that hire was made almost 15 years ago. We're about to have to fire another revenue coach. What's a better forecaster of RV making a hire right now; one he made 15 years ago or the eight he has made in the last 10 years?

Chris Beard would be a good pick up, IMO

I honestly didn't like it from the last staff. Very rarely do kids from those schools slip through the cracks. Pretty much any legit G5 prospect will get so much exposure at those schools that they'll at least have 4+ FBS offers. Old staff had no shot. We'll see about the new staff. Truthfully, the guys we got this year from Cedar Hill and DeSoto didn't have any other FBS schools recruiting them (Rice dropped Moore for grades and they were his only other FBS offer). Let's hope they're ready for some big boy recruiting.

That guy was used as an outside receiver. We're talking about Dillman being a big slot in our offense. Not being too tall for people to contain. I feel like Dillman's projections as a tight end are mainly based on body type and hope. Where has he shown potential to be a receiving threat on the D1 level? On his film he was mainly just running simple, easy routes and making uncontested catches on the JV level.

6'4" 285 lb offensive lineman from DeSoto. We have offered. Also holds offers from Colorado, Colorado State, and Kansas State. highlights: http://www.hudl.com/athlete/5156339/xavier-newman http://247sports.com/Player/Xavier-Newman-88677

There it is

6'0" 190 lb QB from Cedar Hill. We have offered. Also holds offers from Notre Dame, Texas Tech, Colorado, and Houston among others. highlights: http://www.hudl.com/athlete/3734925/avery-davis http://247sports.com/Player/Avery-Davis-38424 http://sports.yahoo.com/olemiss/football/recruiting/player-Avery-Davis-153571 http://www.scout.com/player/195805-avery-davis

There's no doubt he will be told to lose weight. Kind of unfortunate, because he seemingly worked so hard to get up to that optimal tight end weight.

I don't see the harm, especially when you consider he doesn't really fit elsewhere with no tight end anymore.

No, I don't really see Dillman as a receiver. I mean, he could get moved there, but I don't know how much of an impact he can make. As a QB prospect he was agile enough to be classified as a dual-threat, but wasn't breaking off long runs and didn't look like a QB who could also play D1 receiver like some dual-threats. Just looked like a decently mobile QB. Like GMG24 said, if he's too stiff for OLB or DE then receiver isn't a great fit. As a tight end he's always been an unknown. He has tight end size, but has only played on the JV level and just redshirted last year. I just haven't seen anything to lead me to believe he has the quickness or speed for receiver.

Losses: Carlos Harris, Darvin Kidsy (potentially), Marcus Smith*, Chris Loving* Top Returners: JR Turner Smiley, SO Tee Goree Additions: HS WR Deion Hair Griffin, HS WR Rico Bussey, HS WR Tyler Wilson Other Returning Players: SR Thaddeous Thompson, SO O'Keeron Rutherford, SO Daniel Khan, FR Rodney Bendy, FR Kelvin Smith*, FR Kevin Dillman* *tight ends in the previous offense Of one of the bigger disappointments last year was, for the second straight year, failing to have a consistent number two receiver opposite the now departed Carlos Harris. Now we head into this year with just one receiver who has more than 120 career receiving yards (Turner Smiley), should Kidsy not return. We're all looking for big things from Tee Goree. Still a young player, as he was just 18 heading into fall camp last year, but this year needs to be a big step forward for the promising receiver. With an offense that will likely feature four starting receivers this year, I expect Goree to have one of the outside starting spots and Smiley to take one of the inside spots. As for the other two spots, I think we should see a position battle between Rutherford and Thompson for the other outside spot. Daniel Khan had a good spring and fall last year, and was put on scholarship. He's in a good position for the other inside spot, but there's also an off chance we see Ivery there. For now Ivery is a running back, but it's definitely a possibility. Also I expect to see at least one of the incoming freshmen challenging for playing time at inside receiver. We also are expected to phase out the tight ends on our roster. Kelvin Smith could be a candidate for a big-bodied slot receiver. I don't know where Dillman fits, but I don't think it's likely he'll be a receiver. Reinhardt will almost assuredly be moved to the line. Overall, this group is probably our most unproven unit but has some talent. The good news is, the offense should work in their favor, and there will be more combination routes, allowing the receivers to not need to win as many one-on-one battles. Also a good chance our entire starting four will be guys we get back in 2017. But overall just asking too many guys to do things they've never come close to doing before. Talent gives them a chance to be a pleasant surprise. Position Group Rank: 7th

Apparently. But he actually had a much improved junior year. 64% this year. His stock has also gone up a lot. A few P5 offers now.