BillySee58

LIke GMG24 said, Frazier is eligible for a medical redshirt if he wants to pursue that. Let's say he did and he wants to make the most out of his last college basketball opportunity, and no one transfers out. Here is what our lineup could look like. Starting lineup: PG - RS SO Ryan Woolridge SG - SO AJ Lawson SF - RS SR Keith Frazier PF - SR Jeremy Combs C - JR Rickey Brice 2nd unit: 6th man/PG/SG - JR Jamichael Brown SG/SF - JR Amaad Wainwright SF - JR Allante Holston PF - SR Shane Temara PF/C - FR Zach Simmons Rest of bench: PF/C - RS SO Khalil Fuller PG/SG - RS JR/SR Greg White-Pittman One spot for a signee by the new coach That has the makings of a pretty decent roster if the new coach can, well, actually coach.

I don't know. I'm definitely not well-versed in recruiting violation knowledge. I've just never really cared. I know Auburn hosts a 7 on 7 tourney, so I don't think this is anything new. I don't think this is any kind of aggregious violation or unfair advantage. I'm also not a member of the coaching community so I can't speak to what you're saying.

He was never counted towards any class. Never officially signed an LOI. He was going to blueshirted and be backcounted towards the 2017 class but since blueshirts are nonbinding agreements, it was the same as if he never committed by him never making it in. Also, I'm fairly certain that if a player doesn't qualify then their spot opens up. I think that was the case as we brought in 7 guys post-signing day and only had to blueshirt 5 towards the 2017 class. The other 2 seemingly took the spots in the 2016 class in place of Cody Hayes and William Johnson.

His status is Littrell has moved on but he appears to be very motivated to play regardless. If I had to guess, I would say the only way for him to make the team at this point is for him to tryout with the rest of the unrecruited walkon candidates during the open tryouts that take place right before spring camp. That is, if he is enrolled full-time at UNT, which I am not sure he is. I see a zero percent chance we offer him a scholarship even if he gets eligible, as we would have to count him towards our 2018 class, essentially tasking us with counting his scholarship and replacing him all in the same class. All players currently on scholarship. Guys like Flusche and Gunter who came here as walkons but we're out on scholarship still are included as scholarship guys in my count.

Yes I am. Vito said he signed here http://meangreenblog.dentonrc.com/2017/02/breaking-news-unt-adds-scholarship-punter-late.html/ Not sure if that's true and they just didn't bother to update because signing day festivities were over, or if he still hasn't officially signed.

We were at 70 or 71 I believe. And I wouldn't say we're assuming 76, because that would mean everyone makes it in and no one transfers between now and September. I wouldn't count on that.

We announced 19 signees. 3 are already on the roster (Junior Jevin Pahinui, RS Sophomore Jalen Guyton, and Freshman Cade Pearson). 16 signees are not currently on the roster but will be. So it looks like we have 1 spot left in the class, not including anymore players we may bring in as blueshirts.

The first roster update for the 2017 season came out recently (not sure exactly when). Here are some items of note. Garrett Gunter is back as a Redshirt Senior. He was a Senior last year but suffered a season-ending injury in the 4th game against Rice. 4 games is the max in football for a medical redshirt (hardship waiver if 93-98 is reading), so it looks like he got it. Devlin Isadore is listed as a Redshirt Junior. Per an interview, it seems he thought he would have 3 years of eligibility left. It turns out his eligibility clock did start back in fall of 2014 while at Angelo State, so he has two years left here. Looks like Devin O'Hara wasn't eligible for a Redshirt last year, as he is listed as a Redshirt Senior. His former JUCO teammate WR Quinetin Jackson did receive a Redshirt as he is now a Redshirt Junior. 2016 signee Darius Turner is no longer on the roster. I could be wrong, but I think that's the first Littrell signee to leave after actually making it here and being eligible. Here is the breakdown of scholarship players by grade: Seniors: 19 Juniors: 16 Sophomores: 15 Freshmen: 5 This totals 55 scholarship players. This includes just 3 of our signees, so the other 16 will bring the total up to 71, if everyone stays. We also have 5 other commits who weren't announced and it appears are being blueshirted. This would bring our scholarship total up to 76 for next year, if nobody left between now and then and we didn't add anyone else.

Yes, it's for all sports. Season-ending injury where the student-athlete participated in less than 30% of their team's games, or 3 total games if that is more than 30% of the games, that season.

He *should* have no problem getting a medical redshirt. He competed in 4 games, which is well under 30% of our games played. http://www.athleticscholarships.net/2012/07/17/how-get-medical-redshirt.htm It'll be well under 30% of our games played even if we're only counting from once he became eligible.

Ah, okay. More proof of selective reading. I never once talked about footwork. And as far as Tebow, I said "that's what killed Tebow," when referencing only his throwing motion, not an example of a player not possessing "traits" plural. I didn't say Tebow wasn't good in college. Just said that's what killed him, as in, at the NFL level. His throwing motion was why a 6'3", Heisman trophy winning, National Title winning, 1st round pick with a 4-year guaranteed contract who stayed out of trouble only lasted 2 and a half years in the NFL. He had everything else you look for, but he whipped the ball down by his waist when he threw, which makes it much harder to project the ball than a tight release does, in addition to giving the defense more time to react. Anyone can go in their backyard right now and, if they have any background throwing a football, they can try throwing it normal, then try bringing the ball down by their waist and see how much harder it is to throw a spiral. I never said I was anymore qualified than other posters. I was asked directly for some pointers on evaluating QB film, so I gave some.

Technically they've been handing out 2018 offers for almost a year http://247sports.com/Player/Spencer-Sanders-76560/TimelineEvents Looks like we've already offered about 25 guys for the class of 2018. http://northtexas.247sports.com/Season/2018-Football/Offers I don't think it's the biggest deal in the world that we haven't offered, but given the familial ties and the fact that he's easily proven he's worth the offer, I think the offer should've been made a while ago. If things didn't work out for whatever reason at a big program, at least it would help put us in a situation for a Bryce English type situation.

I think you hit the mark here. And while Mac was charismatic, he was out of touch. His reference for a mobile QB was Fran Tarkenton. A guy who played 20 years before recruits were born.

Selective reading from you? Count me as shocked

Correct. They have signed no binding agreements. Still just a verbal agreement.

There's a chance they will be included in our class on recruiting sites and there's a chance they won't. The guys weren't this year, because it would've meant digging and finding out who our blueshirts were, since they weren't announced. They aren't going to be included unless they're announced by us. As far as their spot, we don't have to use a spot in a signing class on them until they get put on scholarship. As of right now we still have 25 scholarships to use on the 2018 class. Only once we start putting them on scholarships will they begin to start taking up spots in that signing class.

I don't think he'll make any changes to the staff because of it. I also don't think he's going to explicitly bring it up and let them know that's unacceptable going forward. I honestly think he's happy with the class and he's more concerned about getting them to be properly utilized on this team. I can't remember ever really seeing a situation where a coach brings in a few better recruiters onto his staff and they go from bad at recruiting to good at recruiting. That's part of the reason why, while the staff does the brunt of the recruiting work, I feel that the head coach is the main factor in whether a school's recruiting is going well or not.

A comment during the NSD show really caught my attention when Cade Pearson was getting interviewed. He stated that he watched some game film of Graham Harrell at Texas Tech on YouTube. When Harrell was hired I saw a lot of posts along the lines of "Recruits grew up watching Harrell at Tech." To which I said, I thought people were not grasping how long ago that was and how old these kids were. A kid the class before told Harrell that the Tech vs Texas game in 08 was the first college game he ever watched and Harrell was shocked at that. He too wasn't grasping how long ago that was in relation to their short lives. I've been wanting to do this for a while, but I'm making this post to put in perspective what football moments these kids have been exposed to by juxtaposing their life timelines with college football, mainly UNT football, events. High school class of 2018: • Born - Typically between June 1999 and August 2000 • UNT wins first Sunbelt title (fall 2001) - Age: 1 or 2 years old • UNT wins final Sunbelt title (fall 2004) - Age: 4 or 5 years old, in pre-K • Texas vs. USC National Championship game 1/4/2006 - Age: 5 or 6 years old • Todd Dodge's last game at Southlake Carroll (December 2006) - Age: 6 or 7 years old • Graham Harrell's senior season at Texas Tech (2008) - Age: 8 or 9 years old • Todd Dodge's last game at North Texas (2010) - Age: 10 or 11 years old • Johnny Manziel wins heisman (2012) - Age: 12 or 13 years old - *This is the age where you start seeing kids who are into sports actually start paying attention and following college football. Even then, it's typically the Ohio State and Alabama type games, or where their parents went/are fans of. • North Texas wins HOD Bowl (January 2014) - Age: 13 or 14 and in 8th grade • Dan Mccarney coaches final game at North Texas (fall 2015) - Age: 15 or 16 and sophomores in high school. - I believe this was true for last class, but I would be shocked if a kid we recruit this class could name Mccarney as our coach before Littrell without doing research.

This right here helps illustrate the divide in evaluating this class. What I mean by that is that we were able to bring in some good players and we have some exciting players we added. However, the disappointing part is how poorly the coaches performed when recruiting against other FBS programs. Bringing in Darden and White was good, but we beat out Texas Southern for Darden and Grambling State for White. Two FCS programs. And again, of the 11 commitments we got once the dead period ended (including blueshirts), all 11 appeared to only have us and either FCS schools or no one actively pursuing them. We got some promising guys and time will tell how good this class turns out. What we don't need time to tell is how successful we were recruiting against our FBS peers. That question has already been answered for this class and the results were bad.

I think the key is that they're bringing in guys who are worth the scholarship. Let's say our options are: - bring in 5 blueshirts who don't have any other FBS offers and have 75 scholarship guys going into the season. Then we only get 20 guys for the next spot. - don't bring in any blueshirts, head into the season with 70 scholarship guys, and a full 25 spots for the next class. If we're going to redshirt those blueshirt guys anyways, does it really make a difference that we technically head into the season with 75 scholarship players as opposed to 70? The only way a kid will agree to a blueshirt is if we are his only FBS offer or maybe he has one more from a bottom-of-the-barrel FBS program like ULM (the case within Weatherspoon). They don't get to truely sign on signing day, and I believe they may even have to make one rent payment before being placed on scholarship, so we can't ask our top recruits with other options to do it. If those guys aren't worth the scholarship, who cares that we had 5 extra bodies on the roster who weren't actually adding to our depth anyways? If that's the case then give me the 5 extra spots for the next class and I'll play with the same 70 other guys we would've been playing with anyways. So that's the key. Making sure these blueshirt guys who really don't have any other FBS offers actually become legit FBS players

A common misconception I keep seeing is that all the other schools are playing with 85 scholarship guys. The 25 scholarship per class has been in play since the 2013 class, which means redshirt seniors all the way down to true freshmen were signed in capped classes. Schools have had to deal with that cap for 5 straight classes. That, plus guys on rosters who leave after signing day, and signees who don't make it in, if teams are heading into week 1 with 80 scholarship guys then they're in a good spot.

Carlos Harris had 2,396 yards during the Mccarney era (2011-2015). The other 12 receivers Mccarney signed combined to record 1,188 receiving yards during the same period. Bad QB play doesn't explain why one receiver had over twice as many receiving yards as 12 other guys combined.

Really solid post. I agree that QB was his biggest downfall, but I think we'd be remiss to omit his inabilities to bring in offensive linemen and receivers. From 2011 to 2014 (his first 4 years), only 1 starting lineman those entire 4 seasons was a guy Mccarney signed out of high school, in Cyril Lemon. Those entire 4 seasons! Technically Rentfro started a couple games in 2014 when Antonio Johnson got hurt, but that was it. It was all Dodge guys, Lemon, a JUCO signee (McKinney), and walkons. That's awful high school production. As for receiver, Mccarney signed 13 receivers in his 5 recruiting classes. Carlos Harris was good, but after him, the receiver out of those 13 with the most career receiving yards is Turner Smiley with 839 career receiving yards. And very little production came under Mccarney. He signed some decent prospects, but the production for the group as a whole was very underwhelming.

I'd say we won one. Jalen Guyton was offered by Marshall in October and committed to us in December. Jacob Brammer held an offer from Rice back in the summer, but it doesn't seem like they were actively recruiting him by the time we got around to, especially since he only took the one official visit to us. Jaelon Darden also held a Southern Miss offer, but that was given to him about 9 months ago. Looks like he was down to us and Texas Southern at the end. So they held other CUSA offers at one point, but they weren't being actively recruited by them when we were recruiting them. From what I saw, I believe out of the 11 commits we got (including blueshirts) since dead period ended, I don't think a single one chose us over another FBS school that had an offer to them and was actively recruiting them. Roberts, Gieser, Mcgehee, and Thornton didn't have any other offers. Novil chose us over an FCS program (ACU), Tibbs chose us over FCS schools, Brammer had offers from Rice and New Mexico but they were about 7 months old once dead period ended, Parish "flipped" from Texas State but they had 6 other o-line commits at the time including 4 tackles, so I think he had been told to look elsewhere, as he had previously removed Texas state commit from his twitter page, and I believe his New Mexico offer was from before he committed to Texas State back in June. Greg White had a couple FBS offers from a long time ago as well, but we flipped him from Grambling so I doubt he chose Grambling over Tulane or Ohio. Jaelon Darden had a good offer list but he only received offers from us and Texas southern after he decommitted, and it seemed our offer was a game changer as he postponed his announcement so that leads me to believe he was about to commit FCS until we came in yesterday. Tre Siggers chose us over Lamar and, I think Grambling (it was an FCS school). He had a Texas Tech hat on the table, but considering Tech offered back in June of 2015 (20 months ago), I think it's safe to say that hat was just for show. So those are the 11 guys and I don't see a single FBS school we actually outrecruited for their services. Good news is, some of these guys are still solid prospects and I think we'll get some solid production out of them. Bad news is our staff really didn't show much ability to really outrecruit schools head to head.

He wasn't, but Vito kept lumping him in with the blueshirts which may have thrown people off.